Guest Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Man do I love this topic. To those how say the Fallout 3 and Oblivion are apples and oranges or apples and whatever else wow you are so wrong. They are very alike in many ways just it is all much better in Fallout 3 than it is in Oblivion. My personal opinion Oblivion blows hard. I had to force myself to play the game. After the god endless hours I had logged on Morrowind and wanting a better Morrowind in a different world. No what I got was a much, much, much lesser Morrowind in cartoon town. You all know what I mean. I could go down a list of reasons why Oblivion blows chucks in comparison to a game like Morrowind and Fallout 1 and 2 but most of you already know them if you have played all the games in depth. Now as far as the Oblivion and Fallout 3 thing, Fallout 3 is for sure the better of the two hands down. Not only does it have all the beauty of the Fallout universe that I loved but the probably the only great thing about Oblivion the graphics engine. I strong say the only thing that made Oblivion worth playing after level 30 or so. Fallout also integrates more of the game play of Morrowind in the sense there is much more freedom than Oblivion. Been playing Fallout 3 since it came out and I still have not chose to finish the main quest and I am still having fun in the game. I know this is a fruitless discussion but man I do love it and man I will end saying this I will go back and play the hell out of some Morrowind. WOW that game is still freaking amazing. :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikekearn Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I like you how said people who think they are different are wrong, and then go on to talk about how the only thing they have the same is "the graphics engine." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 mikekearn said: I like you how said people who think they are different are wrong, and then go on to talk about how the only thing they have the same is "the graphics engine." You missed an important line in there genius "They are very alike in many ways just it is all much better in Fallout 3 than it is in Oblivion." The graphics engine this the one !!!BEST!!! thing they have in common. I mean well since it is the same engine used only better and for a better game in general. Do I really have to spell it out for you. Next time you try to throw some back in my face read the original more carefully. I even fixed the two typos in sentence for you. Take Care,Enjoy Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikekearn Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Do you have to spell it out? No. But it would help to prove your point. There are a lot of people in this thread who jump in with such brilliant insights as, "I like oblivion better cus of the nude mods" and "FR, I think you just insulted the original Fallouts by implying that Fo3 is somehow comparable to them in terms of quality" but do nothing to backup their claims. If you make a statement, and give no reasoning for it, it loses its emphasis and meaning. I have tried to illustrate my belief earlier in the thread that comparing Fallout 3 and Oblivion because of technical similarities is a much more fruitless endeavor than comparing games with similar themes, stories, plots, or other less tangible things. I hadn't meant it to sound rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniperwhere Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Nice one there, Spectrum. Assume you are superior simply because we don't share your opinion. We could sure use more of you in the world. And also, good job in somehow turning someones suggestion that you made a tactical error into an insult thrown back at you. You're an inspiration to us all. :glare: Now, I think Fallout was much better. Oblivion, I loved it, I really did, but I just felt that there could have been more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imready86k Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 No offense Spectrum, I agree with you in many ways regarding apples, mangos, and approcots, BUT (friendly fire) the way you wrote your paragraph got me all lost, it was out of focus or something. I mean I personally got C averages in english, but i can tell the difference between good writing, and writing that is spectrum quality. No I'm not at all a perfect writer, just please state our side of the arguement without it backfiring. basically you pickpocketed mikekearn with sneak skill 15, so that grenade you attempted to put in his trousers failed when you found a tampon in there, yes a tampon. so take my example, dont do as i just did, capping on others, becuase they will slam you. but you see I'm prepared , i tallied up the # of similarities (58) and of which (9) were claimed wrong, some i agree , some disagree, but i'll include all 9. that makes me 84.84% correct with my claims :-). thus in my opinion thats enough for comparability. So maybe the games are different, but there is enough to compare. I assume that anyone who doesn't want to compare the games is likely in love with fallout 3, and doesnt want people to cap on it. I understand that, no one cap on doom2! but why enter this post when its sole purpous is against yours? if were going to fight this until moroblivi-out 4 arrives, lets at least change apples and oranges to something like "nova gone wild" or "adventures of cow pudding and nova", or "bittercup's gonna getcha" that be a nice mod, someone make that and instead of her clothes... no just take off her clothes, now thats a mod, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Fallout 3 and Oblivion single handedly made up my mind to pursue a Computer Science degree so i can hope to test then make games like these. Truly masterpieces in their own right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werewolf334 Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 It is funny to see how such an idle discussion can stir up the most regretted of emotions. This discussion has been turned into a "hot" debate. Everyone can argue their points and think they are right one way or another, prove things one way or another, but in the end such a debate like this has failed to make an exact point towards its purpose. The topic itself addresses "fallout vs oblivion." Hmm, seems like a clashing fight. All that matter and stands to reason in a fight or war is; Which side are you enrolled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumbler Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I, myself, don't understand why this is such a bone of contention. Of course, Fallout 3 is a "better game" in that the people who designed Oblivion designed Fallout 3 with all of the experience and feedback they gained from Oblivion. They would have to be drooling idiots not to put that to work in their favor, and make the second product a better "game." Now, there are elements to Fallout 3 that I think were inferior design choices (though I can understand why they made them). Abandoning Oblivion/Morrowind's "use a skill to improve it" system in favor of the old-school Fallout "assign your points however you wish" method was one of them, though I understand the reasoning. That cannot be fixed with a mod, so we will live with it. (However, so long as they were taking the character generation system from Fallout, I think they should have gone the rest of the way. One of the great features of Fallout 1&2 was the system of traits and reputations that really made your character unique. They will have to be modded in as perks, I think, but this could be, and should be, done). I don't know if the much-better Fallout system of having tagged perks cost less to improve can be added to Fallout 3, though. At-release-Fallout is a better game than at-release-Oblivion, though. Fully modded, Oblivion is still a better game than Fallout at release, I think. That is because I think Fallout, like generic Oblivion, was aimed at a wider audience with less tolerance for ambiguities and frustrations. However, as the talented modders get to work crafting the Fallout equivalent of FCOM, I think modded Fallout 3 will be a better game than modded Oblivion. I don't think it will ever be as good a "storytelling device" as the original Fallouts were, because your choices aren't as constraining as they were in the original games, but it will come close. So, I guess my point is that those who argue that these are not comparable games, and that we cannot apply the lessons from one to the other, kinda baffle me. In all essential regards, Oblivion and Fallout 3 are as much the same game as Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 were. We should definitely try to make the game-improving mods from Oblivion work in Fallout 3, and people like Martigen and Growlf are already busy doing that. Surely any opinion that "I like X feature better" is a valid opinion, though it should carry only as much weight as its evidence supports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesite Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Both games are very good, well planned and executed. Each have their own good points and bad points, however the hype surrounding Fallout 3 made some people have high expectations for the game, only to be let down after the release. The main reason for this was Bethesda not releasing the CS with the game. There are also still many bugs that the first patch didn't fix, however, we have been promised a larger patch that will hopefully address these issues.Oblivion is only seen as "better" since the variety of mods out there is staggering. Give it time and i'm sure Fallout will match, is not surpass, Oblivion in the mods department.Still i prefer Oblivion for various reasons, the first being the main quest is longer and more in depth also the world "feels" larger, i found the Fallout world to be rather bland and far too square for my liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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