modded Skyrim stuttering

[eperdos]

Hi all,

 

I recently started over Skyrim, with a clean install and I modded the game ofer this list:

 

http://itcprosolutions.com/skyrimguides/modding_guide.htm

 

Pretty much all available mods listed there plus a few more (recommended by the authors of listed mods). In total well above 220 mods. All in their maximum rez.

 

I also installed some performance tools like:

 

- razer game booster

- fps booster

- HiAlgoBoost

 

I only played the game until the dragon show up and save my life and I started running over. Problem is, as soon as I enter village, every move I make, game stutters. FPS drops only after action begins, but even then, stuttering is more annoying than FPS drop. in general FPS is above 40, most of the time above 50 and quite a lot over 60.

 

my PC is:

 

- Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @3.00 Ghz

- 4 Gb RAM

- geforce 560ti 1 Gb

- Win 7 64

- monitor res: 1600x1200 (or 1920x1080 if I play on my TV)

 

Can anyone give me some advice on what to do? It took me 2 days to carefully install of these mods, to sort them into the proper order.

 

Any one has a list of mods I should not use with my PC, or a list of settings for my PC?

 

Thank you!

Edited January 4, 2013 by eperdos

[bakafool]

I'm having the same problem as you lately.

 

 

It's those texture mods, combine with scripts heavy mods.

 

The stutters last for only 1-2 seconds , right? before it stabilizes again.

 

220 mods is a lot. Maybe try to scale it down..especially the texture mods

[chikawowwow]

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Pretty much all available mods listed there plus a few more (recommended by the authors of listed mods). In total well above 220 mods. All in their maximum rez.

 

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Maximum resolution for a lot of armors or exterior spaces will cause stuttering. You need to either calm your HD mods down to just a few, or try lower resolution textures. I would only recommend HD textures (without a top of the line PC) for interiors or some armors depending on what your machine can handle.

In your list of mods I'm not sure if you have any memory taxing mods, you should check as this will also cause stuttering.

 

 

 

my PC is:

 

- Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @3.00 Ghz

- 4 Gb RAM

- geforce 560ti 1 Gb

- Win 7 64

- monitor res: 1600x1200 (or 1920x1080 if I play on my TV)

 

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A 560ti 1GB isn't enough for full HD textures on everything while still keeping decent FPS. Pre-patch 1.5 it was possible for me, on a OC 570amp 2GB, but now it becomes unplayable.

Your RAM could do with upgrading also if you are using memory intensive mods. Skyrim is able to use 4GB of RAM yet you have 4GB for your whole system (Skyrim, Windows, Steam, ETC). Your PC is more than capable of running Skyrim with mods, just probably not ALL of the ones you want.

On a side note, I found Skyrim to be slightly more stable when I increased the voltage on my card (this was for DX11 games to be more stable). You may want to consider doing that, but if you are in doubt; don't. I only recommend it as the GTX 560 is known to be too low on volts for DX11, it may help with Skyrim. I increased mine by about 0.7.

 

Hope this helps.

[eperdos]

So, practically I have to make a clean reinstall, to get all the work from start and where I encounter heavy HD textures, I should install "lite" versions or completely forget aout that patch. Did I get this right?

 

do any of those performance programs really work? I know for a fact that razer game booster works, as it prevents even worse stuttering.

[Dan3345]

I only had 13 mods installed earlier on a fresh save and install and I had stuttering too.

 

Also, I can no longer start a new game and play through helgen without the game crashing because of my installed mods.

 

I think patch 1.8 has botched the entry into skyrim, and the games overall acceptance of foreign data.. I swear I never had any of these issues up until this patch..

[chikawowwow]

So, practically I have to make a clean reinstall, to get all the work from start and where I encounter heavy HD textures, I should install "lite" versions or completely forget aout that patch. Did I get this right?

 

do any of those performance programs really work? I know for a fact that razer game booster works, as it prevents even worse stuttering.

 

You shouldn't need to reinstall the game, start a new game though if you are disabling ESP mods. Installing 'lite' texture packs could mean you are just applying HD textures to 70/100 objects instead of the full amount. It's something you'll have to experiment with to find a good balance, for me I only use HD (2048+) textures for interiors or uncommon armors/objects but I decided on this so I can run warzones without major problems. I can run the Official HD Pack fine but I believe those textures are 1048? Keep in mind that mods that add lots of new objects to cells (7k Whiterun for example) will also impact your performance HD or not.

 

The only booster out of your list that I have used is HiAlgoBoost, this works for me. I also use ATTK http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/27959 which boosts performance quite a bit BUT be wary of what settings you change, if you overload the CPU too much for too long you could find yourself needing a new one. Skyrim is quite CPU intensive so if you are in a position to buy a new one without problems then it would help with your stuttering. My CPU is an i7 SandyBridge @4.1, it can handle most things but as I've said my system can't manage all HD & Warzones all at the same time without serious lag or stuttering. I wouldn't recommend kitting your PC out only for Skyrim though, it's only a DX9 game on 32bit (doesn't make use of tesselation or more than 4gb of RAM/ DX11 can render higher quality for less resources) so you would soon find it's not your system holding you back but the game engine.

 

If you have any .ini tweaks I would double check them also.

[chikawowwow]

I only had 13 mods installed earlier on a fresh save and install and I had stuttering too.

 

Also, I can no longer start a new game and play through helgen without the game crashing because of my installed mods.

 

I think patch 1.8 has botched the entry into skyrim, and the games overall acceptance of foreign data.. I swear I never had any of these issues up until this patch..

 

Helgen is known to cause problems with mods. I can't remember the specifics but it's something along the lines of the way the whole place works (at the start) is unlike the rest of the game altogether. You may want to try disabling mods that you don't need right at the start until you can get past Helgen.

 

That said I'm running 162 ESM/ESP mods as well as several texture/misc mods, and I can play through Helgen without any problems, so it's possible one of your mods is broken or needs updating to 1.8. I've found 1.8 onwards to be much more stable than 1.5-1.7, although it was much more stable for me in the early days with reversing dragons.

[Jason2112]

So, practically I have to make a clean reinstall, to get all the work from start and where I encounter heavy HD textures, I should install "lite" versions or completely forget aout that patch. Did I get this right?

 

do any of those performance programs really work? I know for a fact that razer game booster works, as it prevents even worse stuttering.

 

You shouldn't need to reinstall the game, start a new game though if you are disabling ESP mods. Installing 'lite' texture packs could mean you are just applying HD textures to 70/100 objects instead of the full amount. It's something you'll have to experiment with to find a good balance, for me I only use HD (2048+) textures for interiors or uncommon armors/objects but I decided on this so I can run warzones without major problems. I can run the Official HD Pack fine but I believe those textures are 1048? Keep in mind that mods that add lots of new objects to cells (7k Whiterun for example) will also impact your performance HD or not.

 

The only booster out of your list that I have used is HiAlgoBoost, this works for me. I also use ATTK http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/27959 which boosts performance quite a bit BUT be wary of what settings you change, if you overload the CPU too much for too long you could find yourself needing a new one. Skyrim is quite CPU intensive so if you are in a position to buy a new one without problems then it would help with your stuttering. My CPU is an i7 SandyBridge @4.1, it can handle most things but as I've said my system can't manage all HD & Warzones all at the same time without serious lag or stuttering. I wouldn't recommend kitting your PC out only for Skyrim though, it's only a DX9 game on 32bit (doesn't make use of tesselation or more than 4gb of RAM/ DX11 can render higher quality for less resources) so you would soon find it's not your system holding you back but the game engine.

 

If you have any .ini tweaks I would double check them also.

 

ATTK will never overload the CPU. I'm not overclocking anything. Just stealing cycle time from everyone else.

As far as the CPU functions go.

Edited January 16, 2013 by Jason2112

[chikawowwow]

 

The only booster out of your list that I have used is HiAlgoBoost, this works for me. I also use ATTK http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/27959 which boosts performance quite a bit BUT be wary of what settings you change, if you overload the CPU too much for too long you could find yourself needing a new one.

 

ATTK will never overload the CPU. I'm not overclocking anything. Just stealing cycle time from everyone else.

As far as the CPU functions go.

 

Overload was probably a bad term to use. I wasn't intending on giving misinformation about your mod it just seemed irresponsible for me to recommend your mod without giving a warning of what you warn of:

 

"Closing Steam while you play is not completely recommended,

it can/may lead to in game problems and/or save corruption.

Increasing Game priority can/may lead to shorten CPU life.

Increasing Game priority can/may lead to shorten GFX card life.

Pushing your system beyond its capabilities can/may lead to

shorten Hardware life/Hardware Damage. Priority settings are critical.

This software is provided 'as-is', without any express or implied

warranty. In no event shall the authors be held liable for any damages

arising from the use of this software."

 

For the record your ATTK loader works very well for me (thank you) but I'm still cautious of how high I'm willing to go with the settings as I don't want to risk damage to my PC while its working well as it is. It would probably be fine but its a risk I won't take and that is what I was getting at.

[Jason2112]

 

The only booster out of your list that I have used is HiAlgoBoost, this works for me. I also use ATTK http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/27959 which boosts performance quite a bit BUT be wary of what settings you change, if you overload the CPU too much for too long you could find yourself needing a new one.

 

ATTK will never overload the CPU. I'm not overclocking anything. Just stealing cycle time from everyone else.

As far as the CPU functions go.

 

Overload was probably a bad term to use. I wasn't intending on giving misinformation about your mod it just seemed irresponsible for me to recommend your mod without giving a warning of what you warn of:

 

"Closing Steam while you play is not completely recommended,

it can/may lead to in game problems and/or save corruption.

Increasing Game priority can/may lead to shorten CPU life.

Increasing Game priority can/may lead to shorten GFX card life.

Pushing your system beyond its capabilities can/may lead to

shorten Hardware life/Hardware Damage. Priority settings are critical.

This software is provided 'as-is', without any express or implied

warranty. In no event shall the authors be held liable for any damages

arising from the use of this software."

 

For the record your ATTK loader works very well for me (thank you) but I'm still cautious of how high I'm willing to go with the settings as I don't want to risk damage to my PC while its working well as it is. It would probably be fine but its a risk I won't take and that is what I was getting at.

 

I understand, but you have to understand, I have to say that stuff ... there may even be a few 1980 CPU out there that

just don't support priority.

 

 

I took no offence btw, you have the right to question me.