Oghma Infinium

[ShadowEye31]

Silly question, Khaajit always in flux.

 

Okay, here's one: What exactly was the Numidium, and what was its intended purpose for the Dwemer people?

 

Numidium was a golem built by the Dwemer to be a God. However, it ended up killed them, I believe by absorbing their souls, and never reached a god-like stage, though was still incredibly powerful.

 

Might be off a bit, but that's what I learned while looking up the Towers of Mundus that control reality. The Numidium was one such Tower.

[Lachdonin]

Silly question, Khaajit always in flux.

 

Okay, here's one: What exactly was the Numidium, and what was its intended purpose for the Dwemer people?

 

Numidium was a golem built by the Dwemer to be a God. However, it ended up killed them, I believe by absorbing their souls, and never reached a god-like stage, though was still incredibly powerful.

 

Might be off a bit, but that's what I learned while looking up the Towers of Mundus that control reality. The Numidium was one such Tower.

 

To expand, since Unknown isn't around (and i hope he doesn't mind me covering for him) the Numidium was one of the Towers created by the ancient Mer. These Towers were condiuts of power, used to channel Creatia from Aetherius, through Oblivion, to Nirn. Each Tower has different purposes, either shaping the landscape around them, channeling magic power to the social elite or keeping the barriers between worlds active. The Numidium was the Dwemer's attempt to re-birth one of their 'gods'. Presumably, the Dwemer revered Et'ada who didn't survive the creation of Nirn, either the Earthbones or the ancestors of the Mer themselves. They tried to create a new god, powered by the Heart of Lorkhan, as a means of escaping the limitations of Mundus.

 

When activated prematurely, however (due to the whole War of the First Council) it 'fed' on the divine remnants present in the entire Dwemer people. it wasn't enough, though, and only created a half-parody of a true god.

[UnknownGlaze]

Silly question, Khaajit always in flux.

 

Okay, here's one: What exactly was the Numidium, and what was its intended purpose for the Dwemer people?

 

Numidium was a golem built by the Dwemer to be a God. However, it ended up killed them, I believe by absorbing their souls, and never reached a god-like stage, though was still incredibly powerful.

 

Might be off a bit, but that's what I learned while looking up the Towers of Mundus that control reality. The Numidium was one such Tower.

 

To expand, since Unknown isn't around (and i hope he doesn't mind me covering for him) the Numidium was one of the Towers created by the ancient Mer. These Towers were condiuts of power, used to channel Creatia from Aetherius, through Oblivion, to Nirn. Each Tower has different purposes, either shaping the landscape around them, channeling magic power to the social elite or keeping the barriers between worlds active. The Numidium was the Dwemer's attempt to re-birth one of their 'gods'. Presumably, the Dwemer revered Et'ada who didn't survive the creation of Nirn, either the Earthbones or the ancestors of the Mer themselves. They tried to create a new god, powered by the Heart of Lorkhan, as a means of escaping the limitations of Mundus.

 

When activated prematurely, however (due to the whole War of the First Council) it 'fed' on the divine remnants present in the entire Dwemer people. it wasn't enough, though, and only created a half-parody of a true god.

I don't mind at all. In fact, anyone can share their knowledge on this page! :thumbsup:

[UnknownGlaze]

Silly question, Khaajit always in flux.

 

Okay, here's one: What exactly was the Numidium, and what was its intended purpose for the Dwemer people?

 

Numidium was a golem built by the Dwemer to be a God. However, it ended up killed them, I believe by absorbing their souls, and never reached a god-like stage, though was still incredibly powerful.

 

Might be off a bit, but that's what I learned while looking up the Towers of Mundus that control reality. The Numidium was one such Tower.

 

To expand, since Unknown isn't around (and i hope he doesn't mind me covering for him) the Numidium was one of the Towers created by the ancient Mer. These Towers were condiuts of power, used to channel Creatia from Aetherius, through Oblivion, to Nirn. Each Tower has different purposes, either shaping the landscape around them, channeling magic power to the social elite or keeping the barriers between worlds active. The Numidium was the Dwemer's attempt to re-birth one of their 'gods'. Presumably, the Dwemer revered Et'ada who didn't survive the creation of Nirn, either the Earthbones or the ancestors of the Mer themselves. They tried to create a new god, powered by the Heart of Lorkhan, as a means of escaping the limitations of Mundus.

 

When activated prematurely, however (due to the whole War of the First Council) it 'fed' on the divine remnants present in the entire Dwemer people. it wasn't enough, though, and only created a half-parody of a true god.

I don't mind at all. In fact, anyone can share their knowledge on this page! :thumbsup:

[grasscid]

I've been trying to figure this one out for a while: What happens if someone performs the black sacrament on a Dark Brotherhood member?

 

 

On an unrelated note, if Nords go to Sovngarde after they die, where do the other races go?

Edited January 26, 2013 by grasscid

[ilikecheese1337]

They could fake their death.

 

If you're not a Nord and yet kill Alduin, you still get promised Sovngarde when you die, so I think either:

 

You're a special exception and other races go wherever their afterlife is

 

All races go to Sovngarde and become Nords because Shor is racist.

 

 

Now, my question: How does CHIM work? From what I gather, not having played Morrowind, CHIM involves knowing that reality is just the godhead's dream, so you don't exist, and then somehow existing anyway, through sheer stubbornness (this is sounding like the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy).

 

So is it real, or was Vivec just insane/throwing people off the track? If it is real, how in Oblivion do you convince the godhead that, despite having proved you don't exist, you DO, without waking it up? Why must Talos have used CHIM to change Cyrodiil, instead of just, you know, using the handy skill of being a god?

 

Secondly, and on a similar topic, am I correct in thinking the Thalmor's aim is to unmake reality and return to their "Garden of Eden" state? If so, would this primordial state still be the godhead's dream, or his state of existence, or what?

 

CHIM makes my head hurt. Whatever happened to sane lore? Real life religions aren't as complex as this.

 

/borderline rant over

Edited January 26, 2013 by ilikecheese1337

[FiftyTifty]

Pfft. Pansy questions.

 

Here is a real'un:

 

Several hundred years before the events of the games Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim, I.E, the games Arena and Daggerfall, the races were more than able to be nakers, their genitalia having the potential to be set free and swinging whilst they are being granted freedom. Nowadays, the population of Tamriel is confined to undergarments, their gender indicating organs being confined to perpetual, solitary confinement and sheltering from the outside world.

 

What is the lore-abiding (political? Seasonal? Behavioral? Financial?) reason for the sudden donning of restrictive, reproduction-halting undergarments? And how come every race has the same colour, texture, shape and (more-or-less) size of undies? The two genders have differing constructs of said coverings, but that is where the differences end.

 

*IC mode activate*

This does perplex me. Every time I believe I'm progressing in the eventual removal of my confining under-clothing, they shoot right back up, past my thighs and snuggling against my waist if I so much as blink, turn away or anything else that I may do/have happen to me that could potentially disrupt my visual sensing of said undergarment(s).

*IC mode deactivate*

[Lachdonin]

Ok, moving down the list...

 

If a member of the Dark Brotherhood has a contract out on him... The contract would likely be carried out by another sancuary, as the sancuaries are not above killing eachother, and Sithis doesn't give a rats ass whose soul he gets.

 

Where one goes depends on what their choices were in life. If they follow the Nordic traditions, regardless of race, they go to Sovengarde. Daedric worshipers go to the realms of the Daedra they worship (normal mortals don't get to switch sides like PC's can). 'Normal' people go through the Dreamsleave, where their memories are wiped clean and their souls are recycled.

 

CHIM is an incredably complex concept, but your basic summary is right. As for how one acheives CHIM without waking up the godhead, it's the same as an AI acheiving sentience. It doesn't suddenly stop being digital information or trancend the digital realm, and is still limited to the existance within the CPU it is contained within. In the same way, one who acheives CHIM does not affect the Godhead its self, only the dream. And Talos changed Cyrodiil before taking his place as Lorkhan reborn, and was still mortal for all intents and purposes. Because he wasn't a god yet, he couldn't use god-powers to reshape the province.

 

Fourth, the Thalmo-destroying-the-world thing is still an unproven hypothesis, but it's the most supported one out there. It would still be the dream of the Godhead, as everything is descended from Anu and Padomay, who are the essence of the duality of the Godhead's dream.

 

Finally, nudity. Mainstream sensorship. Thats really the crux of it. Back in Daggerfall and Arena (which happened years, not centuries before Morrowind) were in an era where gaming was limited to a very small, surprisingly mature audience. As it became more and more mainstream, the audience also became less and less mature. Some of the things we remember from the good old days are comming back, so we may have nude beggers running through the streets again.