TheNonsenseFactory Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Hi all, Do any of you know offhand where there are metro entrances that have no associated metro station content in the base game + DLC? I looked at the wiki but it only has map info about stations that are used in the game. I would like to find a unused metro entrance, restore it a bit and put a new station under it with my own content in. Preferably in a somewhat safe area, so that I can motivat people being there or having some form of trade service. Not too many hostiles around the entrance or dangerously close. Also, not in the DC ruins, but out in the wasteland. If you know of such a location or several locations, please drop a line here! Or if you know a good web page with more information. Thanks,The Nonsense Factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnEvenSteven Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Well I'll try to help. There's Platz Metro Station. Judging by the information given it could be located anywhere between Megaton, Super Duper Mart and the Sewer Waystation. There's also nothing stopping you from extending the While line further north, It could potentially go somewhere to the residential areas north of D.C. past the Corvega Factory and then up to Canterbury Commons. While the Red line apparently goes up to Meresti Station, there could be another station between there and the Friendship Station. Or you could just not use the existing lines and stick a metro station somewhere that you think would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranx31 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Just checked the above link to Wiki by Ghostnull and, if you follow the link at the bottom of that page to 'Inaccesible Metro Stations', it mentions another one called the Becton Metro station. Here's a a quote from that page: "The Becton Metro station is a pre-War Metro station on the White Line. It is seen on the Metro map. It is north of Vernon station and south of Abernathy Metro station. It is not seen in-game, but the status board says it is still in optimal performance by 2277." So there's another possible one to look into... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNonsenseFactory Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 Thank you ghostnull and Ranx31, that is a lot of good information! I will have to take a look at some of these locations in game. I have no good memories of the area between DC and Canterbury Commons. Is Meresti Station the same or near Meresti Trainyard? I need to get there and look from the ground, I think. And then work backwards towards DC looking for a spot. Do you think the Platz station could perhaps be a bit close to Megaton to make a settlement reasonable? I am unsure about the lore here, but Greyditch is pretty close and I guess have to be considered a settlement. Becton metro seems like it could be placed outside DC possibly combined with ghostnull's idea about a station near Canterbury Commons (the Abertnathy station is not in the game, right?) Again, thanks for your help, I now have an umber of potential locations to look into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnEvenSteven Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) The thing about Meresti Station and Meresti Service Tunnel is that their orientation is backwards. When you enter Meresti Service Tunnel from Meresti Trainyard it appears you are traveling east. If that was the case then Meresti Station would actually be located south and east of Agatha's House. However the Meresti Service Tunnel connects to Northwest Seneca Station which is located to the west of Meresti Trainyard! Look at the map of Meresti Service Tunnel and you'll see that it is indeed backwards. If you take in to account the backwards issue then Meresti Station would then be somewhere between Hallowed Moors Cemetary and Germantown Police HQ. There's nothing really stopping you from placing Platz a little closer to Megaton if you wished. Looking at the metro line map it would actually be closest to Sewer Waystion if you wanted to be more correct. Actually a section of Abernathy Metro is used, it's part of the path that connects Vernon Square to Takoma Park. Becton Metro is unused but it's location would put it inside D.C. and you didn't want that, right? Edited January 18, 2013 by ghostnull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranx31 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 The thing about Meresti Station and Meresti Service Tunnel is that their orientation is backwards. When you enter Meresti Service Tunnel from Meresti Trainyard it appears you are traveling east. If that was the case then Meresti Station would actually be located south and east of Agatha's House. However the Meresti Service Tunnel connects to Northwest Seneca Station which is located to the west of Meresti Trainyard! Look at the map of Meresti Service Tunnel and you'll see that it is indeed backwards. If you take in to account the backwards issue then Meresti Station would then be somewhere between Hallowed Moors Cemetary and Germantown Police HQ. There's nothing really stopping you from placing Platz a little closer to Megaton if you wished. Looking at the metro line map it would actually be closest to Sewer Waystion if you wanted to be more correct. Actually a section of Abernathy Metro is used, it's part of the path that connects Vernon Square to Takoma Park. Becton Metro is unused but it's location would put it inside D.C. and you didn't want that, right? That's not the only thing that looks backwards, Meresti that is. After this post, I played the game, went in a Metro and looked at the map close this time. It looked like the White Line starts curving northeast once you hit Becton and Abernathy and then really aims north by the time it hits Takoma but when you look at the world map, all those metros seem to just line up heading east. If the line map were geographically correct, you'd almost think the Takoma station would be outside the DC area altogether. Weird stuff! And so anyway, it seems you're actually right about Becton being within the DC ruins. Which is NOT what NonsenseFactory was really looking for... But my mention of it was before I saw the actual line layout, so my mistake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNonsenseFactory Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 Thank you again guys, you really spent some effort on this! If I am following correctly, I could place a metro station more or less anywhere between Agatha's House and Bethesda Ruins (there is a metro there according to the wiki). It remains to be seen if there is a spot there that would make a metro entrance believable, I will look at the area today. Platz would be nice because it would fit nicely into the lore. It might be a bit strange that they didn't choose to live in Megaton instead, and also less interesting for the player if it is in the area you explore early in the game. I would welcome your thoughts on this. I will look at this area as well. I could also go ahead like ghostnull suggested and plop a station down somewhere south of canterbury commons, and just dodge what line it belongs to. Jackpot of course would be an existing metro entrance, filled with rubble, with no associated underground content, in a fairly low danger area. Regards,The Nonsense Factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnEvenSteven Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Yeah you're just going to have to scout around between Agatha's House and Bethesda Ruins, don't remember much being there though. Same with a metro south of Canterbury, start at National Guard Depot, Rock Creek Caverns or Friendship Heights and go north from there and around the Corvega Factory to see where a metro could logically be. That metro could still be on the White Line while the one between Agatha's House and Bethesda Ruins could still be on the Red Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNonsenseFactory Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 Yeah you're just going to have to scout around between Agatha's House and Bethesda Ruins, don't remember much being there though. Yep, you are correct, there is almost nothing there. There is one totally bombed out concrete building towards the water from Bethesda, but not enough concrete stuff around it - a metro entrance would look a bit out of place. Next up is Canterbury Commons. Then I will look at the area next to Megaton. Someone also said that they had a vague memory of a ruined metro entrance far to the south almost by the map edge. I should probably start near DC around the factory and nuka cola plant and work myself west. Thank again for helping out on my little quest!The Nonsense Factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnEvenSteven Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) I was thinking about how it would indeed be out of place to stick a metro station out in the middle nowhere and got an idea. As you know there are various utility and maintenance tunnels connected to the metros, you could use one of those to access a metro line that leads to a station. Just stick a door somewhere, either against a rock facing or using a sewer entrance (not a manhole) dug into the ground. An example of a door in a rock facing could be like the entrance to the Antagonizer's Lair. The sewer entry could be set up like the entrance to the Dry Sewer from Dupont Circle or like the entrance to Arlington Sewer. Just have utility/maintenance tunnel connect to a metro tunnel and from there would lead to a metro station. Of course all the metro tunnels would have collapsed making the only way to get the station would be from the utility/maintenance tunnel entrance. It would be a bit more plausible having such an entrance out in nowhere. Edited January 21, 2013 by ghostnull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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