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Hi all,

 

After installed some texture mods i cannot play anymore my latest save (neither the others), i can only start a new save.. i have SKSE 1.6, Skyrim 1.8 and i used boss for reordering..

 

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Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

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Papyrus:

 

/////////// GAME BEGIN ////////////
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:31PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:31PM] Update budget: 1.600000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.600000ms, Load screen budget: 1000.000000ms)
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:31PM] Memory page: 256 (min) 8192 (max) 8388608 (max total)
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:33PM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1scwispwallscript", missing file?

/////////// CLICK ON "CONTINUE" THEN YES ///////////
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:45PM] Error: Property MarkedTree on script _SAGHitTreeRepereScript attached to alias Tree01 on quest _SAGFindTreesQuest (2000C4B2) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (8) on <NULL quest> (2000C4B7) is not the right type
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:45PM] Error: Property MarkedTree on script _SAGHitTreeRepereScript attached to alias Tree01000 on quest _SAGFindTreesQuest (2000C4B2) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (8) on <NULL quest> (2000C4B7) is not the right type
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:45PM] Error: Property MarkedTree on script _SAGHitTreeRepereScript attached to alias Tree01000000 on quest _SAGFindTreesQuest (2000C4B2) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (8) on <NULL quest> (2000C4B7) is not the right type
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:45PM] Error: Property MarkedTree on script _SAGHitTreeRepereScript attached to alias Tree01000000000 on quest _SAGFindTreesQuest (2000C4B2) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (8) on <NULL quest> (2000C4B7) is not the right type
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:45PM] Error: Property MarkedTree on script _SAGHitTreeRepereScript attached to alias TreeInterior on quest _SAGFindTreesQuest (2000C4B2) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (8) on <NULL quest> (2000C4B7) is not the right type
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:45PM] Error: Property MarkedTree on script _SAGHitTreeRepereScript attached to alias TreeInterior000 on quest _SAGFindTreesQuest (2000C4B2) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (8) on <NULL quest> (2000C4B7) is not the right type
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:45PM] Error: Property MarkedTree on script _SAGHitTreeRepereScript attached to alias TreeInterior000000 on quest _SAGFindTreesQuest (2000C4B2) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (8) on <NULL quest> (2000C4B7) is not the right type
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:45PM] warning: Property MasterQuest02 on script _SAGTreeChopingUpdatingALIASES attached to alias PlayerReference on quest _SAGUpdateFindTreesQuest (2000C4B7) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:45PM] warning: Property XMarker on script _SAGCameramanScriptTransl attached to  (20003323) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:46PM] [ihudskyuiconfigmenuscript <iHUDConfigQuest (25005E3C)>] INITIALIZED
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:46PM] [byohhousescript <BYOHHouseFalkreath (0300305E)>]OnInit
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:46PM] [byohhousescript <BYOHHouseHjaalmarch (0300BE09)>]OnInit
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:46PM] [DynavisionSkyUIConfigMenuScript <DynavisionMCMQuest (2201DDCE)>] INITIALIZED
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:46PM] [_sagnaturalclockconfigmenuscript <_SAGConfigurationQuestMCM (20004E18)>] INITIALIZED
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:46PM] [byohhousescript <BYOHHousePale (03010BEE)>]OnInit
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:46PM] [_WetSkyUIConfig <_WetSKConfigQuest (2301BCA8)>] INITIALIZED
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:46PM] [sKI_ConfigMenu <SKI_ConfigMenuInstance (24000820)>] INITIALIZED
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:46PM] [sKI_ConfigMenu <SKI_ConfigMenuInstance (24000820)>]: Updating to script version 2

////////// This save relies on content that is no longer present. I CLICK ON CONTINUE /////////////
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:53PM] VM is freezing...
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:53PM] VM is frozen
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:53PM] Reverting game...
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:53PM] warning: Property XMarker on script _SAGCameramanScriptTransl attached to  (20003323) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:53PM] Error: Property MarkedTree on script _SAGHitTreeRepereScript attached to alias Tree01 on quest _SAGFindTreesQuest (2000C4B2) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (8) on <NULL quest> (2000C4B7) is not the right type
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:53PM] Error: Property MarkedTree on script _SAGHitTreeRepereScript attached to alias TreeInterior000000 on quest _SAGFindTreesQuest (2000C4B2) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (8) on <NULL quest> (2000C4B7) is not the right type
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:53PM] Error: Property MarkedTree on script _SAGHitTreeRepereScript attached to alias Tree01000000 on quest _SAGFindTreesQuest (2000C4B2) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (8) on <NULL quest> (2000C4B7) is not the right type
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:53PM] Error: Property MarkedTree on script _SAGHitTreeRepereScript attached to alias Tree01000 on quest _SAGFindTreesQuest (2000C4B2) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (8) on <NULL quest> (2000C4B7) is not the right type
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:53PM] Error: Property MarkedTree on script _SAGHitTreeRepereScript attached to alias TreeInterior000 on quest _SAGFindTreesQuest (2000C4B2) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (8) on <NULL quest> (2000C4B7) is not the right type
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:53PM] warning: Property MasterQuest02 on script _SAGTreeChopingUpdatingALIASES attached to alias PlayerReference on quest _SAGUpdateFindTreesQuest (2000C4B7) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:53PM] Error: Property MarkedTree on script _SAGHitTreeRepereScript attached to alias Tree01000000000 on quest _SAGFindTreesQuest (2000C4B2) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (8) on <NULL quest> (2000C4B7) is not the right type
[01/14/2013 - 03:18:54PM] Error: Property MarkedTree on script _SAGHitTreeRepereScript attached to alias TreeInterior on quest _SAGFindTreesQuest (2000C4B2) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (8) on <NULL quest> (2000C4B7) is not the right type

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I think you should use BOSS, it might tell you everything you need to know. You also need to add both of the highretexturepacks' bsas to your Skyrim.ini, in your user documents, games, skyrim (normally C drive) load procedure under archive, after textures and them uncheck them in the NMM so that added textures can override the DLC. Edited by Cait833
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I think you should use BOSS, it might tell you everything you need to know. You also need to add both of the highretexturepacks' bsas to your Skyrim.ini, in your user documents, games, skyrim (normally C drive) load procedure under archive, after textures and them uncheck them in the NMM so that added textures can override the DLC.

 

Thanks for answering :)

 

I have this two line under [Archive], look:

 

[Archive]
sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa
sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

How should i set them up?

 

Also i found something strange.. When i use a old save i can play. But when i try to play the new save i've made while playing with the old one i get stuck in loading screen..

 

/// BOSS LOG /// no errors by the way..

 

 


BOSS
Version 2.1.1


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Summary
======================================


Plugin Type	Count
Recognised (or sorted by user rules)	59
Unrecognised	0
Inactive	0
All	59


Plugin Message Type	Count
Warning	0
Error	0
All	26


*  No change in recognised plugin list since last run.
*  Note: Latest BOSS thread ("http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1435032-relz-boss-for-skyrim/")
*  Note: The BOSS team has been overwhelmed with the popularity of submissions of unrecognised plugins from the BOSS Log and the number of outstanding unique submissions. As of 07 January 2013 we are at over 3550+ plugins to add to the Masterlist. Some dating as far back as 27 August 2012. If you are interested in helping to get these plugins added to BOSS's masterlist, please PM Aellis at Bethesda Softworks ("http://forums.bethsoft.com/user/364024-aellis/") or Nexus ("http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?showuser=65745/").
*  Note: Your SKSE is up-to-date.


======================================
SKSE Plugins
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SKSE Version: 0.1.6.6


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Recognised Plugins
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These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm Active
*  Contains dirty edits: 52 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit")


Dawnguard.esm Active
*  Contains dirty edits: 602 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit")
*  Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}


HearthFires.esm Active
*  Contains dirty edits: 171 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit")


ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active
*  Contains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit")


Omegared99-Compilation.esm Active

SPIKE.esm Active

HighResTexturePack01.esp Active

HighResTexturePack02.esp Active

DaedricShieldHiResFix.esp Active

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
*  Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}


Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active
*  Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}


Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active

Better Dynamic Snow.esp Active
*  Contains dirty edits: 6 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit")


Improved Combat Sounds v2.1.esp Active

LIAT - Sounds.esp Active
*  Contains dirty edits: 43 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit")


Thundering Shouts.esp Active

Remove Interior Fog V2 - Skyrim.esp Active
*  Note: Use Remove Interior Fog V2 - Dawnguard.esp in addition to include Dawnguard locations.
*  Note: Use Remove Interior Fog V2 - Hearthfire.esp in addition to include Hearthfires locations.


ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp Active

CLARALUX.esp Active
*  Contains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit")


CLARALUX-DG-Patch.esp Active

CLARALUX-HF-Patch.esp Active

FixCombatMusic.esp Active

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active

GuardsGuardThePlayer.esp Active

Immersive Battles.esp Active
*  Contains dirty edits: 23 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit")


Immersive Brigands.esp Active
*  Contains dirty edits: 12 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit")


Immersive Dawnguard.esp Active
*  Contains dirty edits: 23 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit")


Immersive Patrols.esp Active
*  Contains dirty edits: 31 ITM, 8 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit")


Immersive Travelers.esp Active

Immersive Werewolves.esp Active
*  Contains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit")


LIAT - NPCs.esp Active
*  Contains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit")


NaturalClock.esp Active

People Have Torches.esp Active

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active

DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp Active
*  Note: Make sure you have not switched DoF off in your ini file. If you don't see any effect, open you Skyrimprefs.ini and look for 'bDoDepthOfField'. Make sure it is set to 1.


WetandCold.esp Active

SkyUI.esp Active

iHUD.esp Active

Cloaks.esp Active
*  Contains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit")


1nivWICCloaks.esp Active
*  Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}


1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Active
*  Contains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit")


hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active
*  Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}


Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp Active

Dr_Bandolier.esp Active

Beautiful Whiterun.esp Active
*  Contains dirty edits: 79 ITM, 2 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit")


RealisticWhiterun.esp Active

Run For Your Lives.esp Active

morerealisticcarrying.esp Active

armored-horses.esp Active

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active

torches for realistic lighting.esp Active

Populated Cities 2.esp Active
*  Contains dirty edits: 59 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit")


dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp Active
*  Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check  Custom Skeleton Replacers ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/16712") for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.


RealisticCarryWeight.esp Active

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Active

WATER.esp Active

 

 

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The archive section should look like this after editing:

 

[Archive]
sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, HighResTexturePack01.bsa, HighResTexturePack02.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa
sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

 

You also have a lot of mods that need cleaning with Tes5Edit, and whilst they won't necessarily cause CTDs, they can contribute to it. We all wish that mod authors would clean their mods before releasing them, but some people refuse to read.

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The archive section should look like this after editing:

 

[Archive]
sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, HighResTexturePack01.bsa, HighResTexturePack02.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa
sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

 

You also have a lot of mods that need cleaning with Tes5Edit, and whilst they won't necessarily cause CTDs, they can contribute to it. We all wish that mod authors would clean their mods before releasing them, but some people refuse to read.

 

Thank you for your support.. How much time i will spend cleaning all the mods?.. i will make a new save if it will take too long instead.. can i export face sliders, quests done and things like this from my old save to my new one?

 

Another strange thing:

I have this old save.. I can play with it. If i walks somewhere for a bit and then make a new save i can play it normally..

If i play with the old save and after ~10 min i make a new save and quit i cannot play that one.. BUT, when i play the oldest i can, while playing, load the new save i made before and play.. that's is so sad... everything seems to be messed up...

 

EDIT: It seems i cannot even make a new save.. When i am on the carriage to helgen, when Ralof says "We are all brothers in binds" the game CTD :(

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After adding them to the archive load order, you should delete the esp files in your skyrim data folder as the bsas are now loaded automatically. Loose files are load before your mod load order.

 

TES5EDIT really does not take that long to learn for cleaning since you only use a few functions -

is a guide from Gopher, it's the same for mods. Wrye Bash may also help you, and here is a guide on how to use it to create a bashed patch.

 

I suggest also updating your mods to the latest versions if you have not done so already.

 

As far as I know, you cannot import things from previous saves into new ones, sorry. :(

 

Other than that, just remove whatever you installed and try loading again, but it's not often that a texture/environmental mod will cause a CTD.

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After adding them to the archive load order, you should delete the esp files in your skyrim data folder as the bsas are now loaded automatically. Loose files are load before your mod load order.

 

TES5EDIT really does not take that long to learn for cleaning since you only use a few functions -

is a guide from Gopher, it's the same for mods. Wrye Bash may also help you, and here is a guide on how to use it to create a bashed patch.

 

I suggest also updating your mods to the latest versions if you have not done so already.

 

As far as I know, you cannot import things from previous saves into new ones, sorry. :(

 

Other than that, just remove whatever you installed and try loading again, but it's not often that a texture/environmental mod will cause a CTD.

 

Thanks a lot! i will try and i report if it works!

 

EDIT1: deleting the texture hd packs esps let me enter helgen but a few seconds after... ctd..

 

EDIT2: Checked, every mod is updated..

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Perhaps try starting a new game with all mods unchecked so you know if the game is stable. If not then you should verify the game cache via Steam, but make sure to backup your live Skyrim and SkyrimPrefs inis (the ones in your users documents, under games, or my games) before doing so.
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