Followers Do Nothing

[Arcticia]

Recently I've been having this horrible issue where my followers just follow me around and watch me do everything without helping. I had UFO installed, and I thought it was the problem so I went and uninstalled it, after dismissing my party members and talking to Tina the Firefly.

 

After all was done, I had one follower, a custom one. At first when I started up she actually attacked enemies that were hostile to me for about five minutes and then she called it quits and decided she was going to watch me die and only intervene if she was attacked.

 

So I got fed up and added the mod Amazing Follower Tweaks, which is kind of similar to UFO, a little more basic but it has a lot of settings and the ability to view AI settings. Upon viewing my followers AI settings I noticed under "Assistance" it was set to "Helps Nobody". In the console I typed "getav assistance" with the reference id selected and it stated it was 2 which should mean that my follower helps allies. I changed the other settings in the window like aggression and morality and they changed. I'm quite sure that the follower mod is accurate and there is something else interfering even though the mod that adds the follower is the last to load.

 

Has anyone else run across any issues like this and has anyone fixed this issue? I will post further details if necessary.

[ripple]

I'm quite sure that the follower mod is accurate and there is something else interfering even thought the mod that adds the follower is the last to load.

 

Has anyone else run across any issues like this and has anyone fixed this issue? I will post further details if necessary.

 

Yes, it sounds like a mod has edited NPC followers from 'help friends and allies' to 'help nobody', but this is where you post your mod list/load order....

Edited January 15, 2013 by ripple

[Arcticia]

Here is my mod list. I honestly don't know where to start.

 

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  HearthFires.esm
04  ApachiiHair.esm
05  ApachiiHairFemales.esm
06  ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
07  Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
08  MagicDuel.esm
09  WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm
0A  AMO.esm
0B  moonpath.esm
0C  RaceCompatibility.esm
0D  JSwords.esm
0E  SPIKE.esm
0F  dagi_raht_race.esp
10  khajiit_replacer.esp
11  Dagi-RahtPatch.esp
12  brawlbug-plugin.esp
13  Shadow Striping Fix.esp
14  HighResTexturePackFix.esp
15  Supreme Fog.esp
16  randomthunder.esp
17  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
18  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp
19  ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
1A  Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
1B  Weapons and Armor fixes.esp
1C  Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp
1D  StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
1E  83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
1F  Birdsofskyrim.esp
20  Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
21  NaturalClock.esp
22  Oblivious Horses (DG).esp
23  Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp
24  Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
25  Convenient Horses.esp
26  Destructible_bottles.esp
27  Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
28  Character Creation Overhaul.esp
29  Footprints.esp
2A  SkyUI.esp
2B  iHUD.esp
2C  DemonHunterArmor.esp
2D  elegantvampirearmor.esp
2E  ElvenWeaponry.esp
2F  GDRangerArmor.esp
30  hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
31  HuntressArmor.esp
32  LadyLaceCloaks_EN.esp
33  LFArmors.esp
34  lilithscarver3_0.esp
35  NightingaleCrossbow.esp
36  nordicrangerarmor.esp
37  SilverDragonArmor.esp
38  theRoadstrokersRogueSorceress.esp
39  theRoadstrokersAlvinHewOutfitSet.esp
3A  theRoadstrokersRoyalElvenSet.esp
3B  DeadlyDragons.esp
3C  PumpingIron.esp
3D  Babette.esp
3E  Better Dynamic Snow.esp
3F  CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp
40  Headtracking.esp
41  AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp
42  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
43  Better Vampires.esp
44  DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
45  FNISspells.esp
46  Duel - Combat Realism.esp
47  DisableAutoAim.esp
48  Locational Damage.esp
49  The Dance of Death.esp
4A  CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
4B  No Skill Limit.esp
4C  Crimson Tide - Blood.esp
4D  ABT - Loot Arrows +50%.esp
4E  ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +100%.esp
4F  ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +100%.esp
50  ABT - Merchants Arrows +50%.esp
51  ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp
52  ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp
53  ABT - Recover +50% Arrows and Bolts.esp
54  SkyRe_Main.esp
55  ReProccer.esp
56  SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
57  SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
58  SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
59  SkyRe_Races.esp
5A  SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
5B  SkyRe_Combat.esp
5C  SkyRe_hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
5D  Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
5E  Vampirelordroyal.esp
5F  TheEyesOfBeauty.esp  [Version 8]
60  Follower Trap Safety.esp
61  3DNPC.esp
62  AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
63  CerwidenCompanion.esp
64  SGFKodelia.esp
65  SGFLucretia.esp
66  mayatola UFF.esp
67  SGFSabeena.esp
68  SGFEris.esp
69  SGFChastity.esp
6A  Random Alternate Start.esp
6B  RAS - Riverwood CharGen.esp
6C  CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
6D  ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
6E  WATER.esp
6F  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
70  SaderHorses.esp
71  BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp
72  gourmetFix.esp
73  Underworld_eyes_Dawnguard and replacer.esp
74  ElvenWeaponryFasterArrows100%.esp
75  hearthfire_buyingots.esp
76  lilithsarmor.esp
77  lilithssickle.esp
78  Companion Sylgja.esp
79  AMO - Special.esp
7A  AMO - Combat.esp
7B  moonpath_questdata.esp
7C  Mystic.esp
7D  JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
7E  LiFE.esp
7F  Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - RCRN Pure.esp
80  Disable Fast Travel DAWNGUARD.esp
81  rcrnShaders.esp
82  RCRNvolumetric.esp
83  Automatic Variants.esp
84  Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Texture 1.esp
85  warburg's 3d paper world map - dawnguard.esp

 

If anyone knows how to create a script that takes any character part of the potential follower faction, and follower faction and sets their assistance to "Help Friends and Allies", I'd like to believe that would fix the issue.

[ripple]

The first thing you need to do is to use BOSS to sort your load order. If there are plugins not recognized by BOSS that appear after your patches (ReProccer, AV Patch, Bashed Patch, etc.), then they need to be sorted manually. You can use TES5Edit to check them and see if they conflict with any mods in your load order, and decided based on that where they should load. Absolutely do not allow them to simply load after your patches. This may fix your issue altogether.

 

The other thing is that 'Moonpath to Elsewyre' has been know to cause issues. I believe the recommendation from the author is that you activate its plugins when you are playing the quest, bu uninstall the mod once you finish. I don't think it has anything to do with your follower AI issue (although I've never used MoE), but just something you should be aware of.

Edited January 16, 2013 by ripple