onewhoreads Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 So, I have this problem where if i use any door that loads a new area in megaton, the game closes to desktop. I can fast travel into megaton, but when I tried to enter the water treatment plant, same crash to desktop. This crash seems to only happen when I use a door in Megaton. I tried out all the other nearby structures, they all work fine. Steam Fallout 3 GOTY mods installedArchiveInvalidation Invalidated - Program VersionGames for windows live disableDimonized type3 - AIOMiniHideout v13 EasyFallout Stutter Remover - FSR_4-1-36T3 armors and outfits- full releaseFALLOUT 3 crash fix - fix zipUpdated_Unofficial_Fallout3_Patch_Mod_Manager_VersionFallout Stutter Remover Crash Freeze StabilizerFallout Script Extender (FOSE) I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 So, I have this problem where if i use any door that loads a new area in megaton, the game closes to desktop. I can fast travel into megaton, but when I tried to enter the water treatment plant, same crash to desktop. This crash seems to only happen when I use a door in Megaton. I tried out all the other nearby structures, they all work fine. Steam Fallout 3 GOTY mods installedArchiveInvalidation Invalidated - Program VersionGames for windows live disableDimonized type3 - AIOMiniHideout v13 EasyFallout Stutter Remover - FSR_4-1-36T3 armors and outfits- full releaseFALLOUT 3 crash fix - fix zipUpdated_Unofficial_Fallout3_Patch_Mod_Manager_VersionFallout Stutter Remover Crash Freeze StabilizerFallout Script Extender (FOSE) I have no idea what I'm doing wrong.Remove those first as they are NOT part of the game and test.Let me know what happens. Start a new game to. Install this so it makes things faster for you.https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/7601That's an alternate startup MOD <--- You need to start somewhere and this is good enough. Kitty Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) If the game is installed in "Program Files", the Windows User Account Control will prevent any changes to be made to any file installed there. FOSE, FSR, UUFO3P, etc. will be blocked and the game will usually crash. Did you first start the game from the launcher before you added mods? You do not need GFWL disable with FOSE. If you have a mod manager you do not need the program version of Archive Invalidation. But then again, if the game is in Program Files, it doesn't work anyway. Edited July 6, 2020 by M48A5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewhoreads Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 So i disabled the mini hideout mod: MiniHideout v13 EasyAnd i stopped having the problem. I still have the game freeze up occasionally when i'm using VATS, but Megaton is accessable again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewhoreads Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 Also, i'm using Vortex mod manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Also, i'm using Vortex mod manager. never use the items I crossed out and never have issues with fallout 3, no freezing or stutters and , I will never rly on a networked arranged modding theme.I use for this 11 year old game Fomm and a version / Legacy version of mod organizer 3.1.1 --which is no longer online. I can't say much for the mod your talking about because I use the Original version. But I can test it if you like?https://www.nexusmods.com/Core/Libs/Common/Widgets/ModRequirementsPopUp?id=55843&game_id=120 fallout 3 GOTY is a simple game .it's not complicated. users make it complicated. I can run this little game on an Android tablet with no issues.All these extra things people made are to accommodate other 3rd party tools for scripting and fight GAMES FOR Windows Live anti cheat mechanism's. they were not around during release of the game. Stutters are caused by bad graphics drives and install locations. Speed of the machine's capability to process this old game. So I 'll install the "easy" version and test it without the FOSE requirements, all that is for is a couple of scripts for Hidi's use, that's all. Other wise it's not needed. Kitty Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) 00:03] Done: Applying Filter, [Pass 1] Processed Records: 1322, [Pass 2] Processed Records: 1309, Remaining unfiltered nodes: 1309, Elapsed Time: 00:00[undeleting and Disabling References done] Processed Records: 1308, Undeleted Records: 0, Elapsed Time: 00:00Removing: SuperDuperMart "Super-Duper Mart" [CELL:00017F37]Removing: GRUP Interior Cell Sub-Block 0Removing: GRUP Interior Cell Block 3[Removing "Identical to Master" records done] Processed Records: 1308, Removed Records: 3, Elapsed Time: 00:00 the only things found in it. Ok, I tested the mod on a pristine game setup, It runs clean, no issues what's so ever. NO bugs, No stuttering, No crashes. Every door operates cleanly.Smooth operating.So, your issue is the methods used and software. Edited July 7, 2020 by Purr4me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewhoreads Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 I uninstalled all the mods you crossed out, and the only issue i'm having now is that the game will freeze randomly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I uninstalled all the mods you crossed out, and the only issue i'm having now is that the game will freeze randomly. Lay out exactly where the game is installed at. Steam Game ? GOG game ?Do you run any 3rd party antivirus programs?It's all important. Best way is to reinstall the game and make the installer / Steam OR GOG Galaxy install the game to the root of c:\ AKA C:\fallout 3 or Games\Fallout 3 in the editing windows of said programs.You DO NOT want it installed in C:\Program Files And Folders (x86).you may need to start a fresh game too.I also need to know system / hardware specs. The worst offending antivirus program is MacAfee. That requires their own uninstaller from their web site. I need to know the OS / Operating system you're using as well. All of this is important. When I see anything show up after an install ? I remove the entire program and choose a different spot or method to re-install the game.Don't forget, you already have established Registry entries that might also be trying to call up things in the game that are no longer there.I am notified the instant you post so I'll be here for you when you need me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewhoreads Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 Steam game, in the standard install location. I run Avast antivirus.System Information report written at: 07/07/20 04:15:40System Name: DESKTOP-NSU3E53[system Summary] Item Value OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Version 10.0.17763 Build 17763 Other OS Description Not Available OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation System Name DESKTOP-NSU3E53 System Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. System Model Z370P D3 System Type x64-based PC System SKU Default string Processor Intel® Core i5-8600K CPU @ 3.60GHz, 3600 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 6 Logical Processor(s) BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. F2, 11/9/2017 SMBIOS Version 3.0 Embedded Controller Version 255.255 BIOS Mode UEFI BaseBoard Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. BaseBoard Product Z370P D3-CF BaseBoard Version x.x Platform Role Desktop Secure Boot State Off PCR7 Configuration Binding Not Possible Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32 Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2 Locale United States Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.17763.1131" User Name DESKTOP-NSU3E53\Bair Time Zone Eastern Daylight Time Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 16.0 GB Total Physical Memory 16.0 GB Available Physical Memory 10.6 GB Total Virtual Memory 18.3 GB Available Virtual Memory 10.9 GB Page File Space 2.38 GB Page File C:\pagefile.sys Kernel DMA Protection Off Virtualization-based security Not enabled Device Encryption Support Reasons for failed automatic device encryption: TPM is not usable, PCR7 binding is not supported, Hardware Security Test Interface failed and device is not InstantGo, Un-allowed DMA capable bus/device(s) detected, TPM is not usable Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware Yes Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes I'll try uninstalling fallout and reinstalling to C:/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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