CTD without a cause

[hentaishinri]

EDIT: ripple has been an enormous help and everything is fixed, I can wholeheartedly say that I am playing skyrim like never before.

I'm leaving the thread in case anyone else is having the same CTD problems as me, so yea, just follow the steps ripple posted in here and you should be fine.

Guys I'm at a loss. I tried so many things, i tried disabling mods and starting a new game, i tried re-installing skyrim but I still keep getting and getting CTD's and I'm starting to get pissed off

The only thing i can say is that even after I re-installed skyrim i still installed the same mods

so here is my BOSS log

 

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm Active

Dawnguard.esm Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

HearthFires.esm Active

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active

SPIKE.esm Active

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active

Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active

ClimatesOfTamriel-VanillaNights-Lvl-3.esp Active

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp Active

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active

UnlimitedBookshelves.esp Active

Footprints.esp Active

SkyUI.esp Active

Cloaks.esp Active

Cloaks - No Imperial.esp

Note: Use only one cloaks*esp

Cloaks - Player Only.esp

Note: Use only one cloaks*esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp

Warning: Use only one WICCloaks esp.

1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp

Warning: Use only one WICCloaks esp.

Incompatible with: Cloaks of skyrim (even with compatibility patch). To fix this use another WICCloaks esp or uninstall cloaks of skyrim.

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Active

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch-No Imp.esp

Incompatible with: 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch esp

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp Active

Note: Does not contain unexpected (or out of order) records or TESVSnip truncation issues as found in other mods by various authors. However, a newer esp fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here that may provide added stability. (Compatibility Patch)

Complete Crafting Overhaul - BS version.esp Active

Note: Does not contain unexpected (or out of order) records or TESVSnip truncation issues as found in other mods by various authors. However, a newer esp fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here that may provide added stability. (Compatibility Patch)

Note: Will conflict with mods that modify existing recipes.

DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp Active

Run For Your Lives.esp Active

When Vampires Attack.esp Active

whiterun spruce by revan1199.esp Active

Immersive Weapons.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active

dD-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Active

Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Active

Requires: RND_USKP-Patch.esp

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active

RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp Active

dovahkiinrelax.esp Active

ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp Active

Duel - Combat Realism.esp Active

The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp Active

WATER.esp Active

RND_Water-Patch.esp Active

 

and here is my SkyrimPref.ini

 

[General]

fBrightLightColorB=1.0000

fBrightLightColorG=1.0000

fBrightLightColorR=1.0000

iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1

bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0

[imagespace]

bDoDepthOfField=1

iRadialBlurLevel=0

[Display]

iBlurDeferredShadowMask=0

fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000

fShadowDistance=2000

iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=1024

iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048

iShadowSplitCount=2

iMaxAnisotropy=1

fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000

fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000

fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=3600

fGamma=1.0000

iShadowFilter=3

fDecalLOD2=1500.0000

fDecalLOD1=1000.0000

fSpecularLODStartFade=900

fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000

fLightLODStartFade=2200

iTexMipMapMinimum=0

iTexMipMapSkip=0

bTransparencyMultisampling=0

iWaterMultiSamples=0

iMultiSample=1

iShadowMode=3

bTreesReceiveShadows=0

bDrawLandShadows=0

bDrawShadows=1

bFull Screen=1

iSize H=800

iSize W=1280

fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000

fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000

fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=1e+007

fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=1e+007

iScreenShotIndex=2

bShadowMaskZPrepass=0

bMainZPrepass=0

iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=10

iMaxDecalsPerFrame=30

sD3DDevice="ENB"

bFXAAEnabled=0

iShadowMapResolution=512

fShadowBiasScale=0.5

iShadowMaskQuarter=3

iAdapter=0

iPresentInterval=1

bFloatPointRenderTarget=1

bShadowsOnGrass=1

bDeferredShadows=1

[Grass]

b30GrassVS=1

fGrassStartFadeDistance=3000

fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000

fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000

[Water]

iWaterReflectHeight=512

iWaterReflectWidth=512

bUseWaterDisplacements=1

bUseWaterRefractions=1

bUseWaterReflections=1

bUseWaterDepth=1

[MAIN]

bGamepadEnable=1

bCrosshairEnabled=1

fHUDOpacity=1.0000

bSaveOnPause=1

bSaveOnTravel=1

bSaveOnWait=1

bSaveOnRest=1

fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000

[GamePlay]

bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1

bShowQuestMarkers=1

iDifficulty=2

[interface]

bDialogueSubtitles=1

bGeneralSubtitles=1

fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000

bShowCompass=1

[Controls]

bMouseAcceleration=0

fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000

fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0340

bAlwaysRunByDefault=1

bInvertYValues=0

bGamePadRumble=1

bMouseAcceleration=1

bUseKinect=0

[Particles]

iMaxDesired=750

[saveGame]

fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000

[AudioMenu]

fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000

fVal7=1.0000

uID7=0

fVal6=1.0000

uID6=0

fVal5=1.0000

uID5=0

fVal4=1.0000

uID4=0

fVal3=1.0000

uID3=94881

fVal2=0.8500

uID2=466532

fVal1=1.0000

uID1=554685

fVal0=1.0000

uID0=1007612

[Clouds]

fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000

fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000

fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000

fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000

[TerrainManager]

fTreeLoadDistance=12500

fBlockMaximumDistance=75000

fBlockLevel1Distance=25000

fBlockLevel0Distance=15000

fSplitDistanceMult=0.4

bShowLODInEditor=0

[NavMesh]

fObstacleAlpha=0.5000

fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000

fCoverSideLowAlpha=0.6500

fEdgeFullAlpha=1.0000

fEdgeHighAlpha=0.7500

fEdgeLowAlpha=0.5000

fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000

fTriangleHighAlpha=0.3500

fTriangleLowAlpha=0.2000

fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000

fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000

fEdgeThickness=10.0000

fPointSize=2.5000

[Trees]

bRenderSkinnedTrees=1

uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=20

[Decals]

uMaxDecals=250

bDecals=1

bSkinnedDecals=1

uMaxSkinDecals=50

uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=40

[LOD]

fLODFadeOutMultObjects=9

fLODFadeOutMultItems=8.2

fLODFadeOutMultActors=9

fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000

[Launcher]

bEnableFileSelection=1

bShowAllResolutions=1

uLastAspectRatio=4

[blurShaderHDR]

bDoHighDynamicRange=1

[blurShader]

bUseBlurShader=0

 

 

and can someone PLEASE tell me what to do because I'm losing it. (I also have ENB antifreeze and ENB Climates Of Tamriel mod)

Edited January 25, 2013 by hentaishinri

[washerw2]

I'd work at getting Vanilla Skyrim, that's Skyrim with HD DLC, but without anyother mods that including 'DawnGuard' running first without a hitch.

[ripple]

1) The BOSS log already informed you of a number of issues with your load order, so you need to follow the instructions, starting by removing the redundant esp's for Cloaks of Skyrim and Winter is Coming. BOSS also informed you that you needed RND USKP patch since you are using USKP, but you did not install it. Ignore not the BOSS, for the BOSS is wise.

 

2) This is unrelated to your CTDs, but since you are using a number of 'add more items to NPCs' mods (like Cloaks of Skyrim, Winter is Coming, Immersive Armor, Immersive Weapons, etc.), you need to use Wrye Bash to generate a Bashed Patch to merge the conflicting leveled lists edits. It's not really optional for your load order anymore, so don't think about it, just do it.

 

3) If you are going to reinstall Skyrim and your mods again, use the Mod Organizer instead of the poopy NMM. This is entirely optional but will spare you a lot of aggravation.

[hentaishinri]

1) The BOSS log already informed you of a number of issues with your load order, so you need to follow the instructions, starting by removing the redundant esp's for Cloaks of Skyrim and Winter is Coming. BOSS also informed you that you needed RND USKP patch since you are using USKP, but you did not install it. Ignore not the BOSS, for the BOSS is wise.

 

2) This is unrelated to your CTDs, but since you are using a number of 'add more items to NPCs' mods (like Cloaks of Skyrim, Winter is Coming, Immersive Armor, Immersive Weapons, etc.), you need to use Wrye Bash to generate a Bashed Patch to merge the conflicting leveled lists edits. It's not really optional for your load order anymore, so don't think about it, just do it.

 

3) If you are going to reinstall Skyrim and your mods again, use the Mod Organizer instead of the poopy NMM. This is entirely optional but will spare you a lot of aggravation.

 

Oh i see. Well i'm not good with mods, but I will do what you advised me and I will leave an update asap ^^ Thank you for replying

[hentaishinri]

1) The BOSS log already informed you of a number of issues with your load order, so you need to follow the instructions, starting by removing the redundant esp's for Cloaks of Skyrim and Winter is Coming. BOSS also informed you that you needed RND USKP patch since you are using USKP, but you did not install it. Ignore not the BOSS, for the BOSS is wise.

 

2) This is unrelated to your CTDs, but since you are using a number of 'add more items to NPCs' mods (like Cloaks of Skyrim, Winter is Coming, Immersive Armor, Immersive Weapons, etc.), you need to use Wrye Bash to generate a Bashed Patch to merge the conflicting leveled lists edits. It's not really optional for your load order anymore, so don't think about it, just do it.

 

3) If you are going to reinstall Skyrim and your mods again, use the Mod Organizer instead of the poopy NMM. This is entirely optional but will spare you a lot of aggravation.

 

Update: since I have poor modding skills, I have no idea what to do with that Mod Organizer, it's weird and confusing. And idk how to use wrye bash. So the only thing I did was to install the RND USKP patch

[Snowball99]

1) The BOSS log already informed you of a number of issues with your load order, so you need to follow the instructions, starting by removing the redundant esp's for Cloaks of Skyrim and Winter is Coming. BOSS also informed you that you needed RND USKP patch since you are using USKP, but you did not install it. Ignore not the BOSS, for the BOSS is wise.

 

2) This is unrelated to your CTDs, but since you are using a number of 'add more items to NPCs' mods (like Cloaks of Skyrim, Winter is Coming, Immersive Armor, Immersive Weapons, etc.), you need to use Wrye Bash to generate a Bashed Patch to merge the conflicting leveled lists edits. It's not really optional for your load order anymore, so don't think about it, just do it.

 

3) If you are going to reinstall Skyrim and your mods again, use the Mod Organizer instead of the poopy NMM. This is entirely optional but will spare you a lot of aggravation.

 

Update: since I have poor modding skills, I have no idea what to do with that Mod Organizer, it's weird and confusing. And idk how to use wrye bash. So the only thing I did was to install the RND USKP patch

 

Wrye Bash IS confusing. Yes it is. And I went through the trouble to figure it out, so it is not insurmountable. You can do it! Modding is great. But you need to learn the tools to operate a complex and lengthy mod list. BOSS is important. A mod manager is very important (but I still use NMM), and Wrye Bash is necessary for it to all work. All you need it for is the Bash Patch! Just figure that out. There is documentation to help you.

 

Make sure that your mods are installed properly

Get your load order correct.

Open Wrye and select everything above the BashPatch. Patch MUST be at the bottom of the list.

right click on the selected area and choose the scan for mergeable on the menu.

After it does that, select the Bash Patch and right click and select rebuild patch from the menu.

Close Wrye

 

Should work!

 

Oh...and dont overwrite Saves or use the Automatic Saves in the game. Create a fresh new save every time.

[ripple]

Mod Organizer is more complicated than the NMM, but for good reasons. It does many things the NMM won't, beginning with not installing mods directly into the game data folder and overwriting when conflicting files are installed (thus remedying the 'I messed up do I need to start over with a clean install?' issue. Since MO does not install mods directly into the game data folder, no matter how many mods you install through MO, you will never need to do a 'clean install' of the game).

 

I don't think anyone has done a video tutorial for MO yet (I've been thinking about it, but I need to get a mic first....).

 

I suggest you take this slow. Start with 5 mods you want, install them using MO (post back with screenshots if you get stuck on this).

 

After you've done that, use BOSS to sort the mods. Remember that you need to run BOSS from inside MO, so you'll need to set up BOSS as an executable in MO (top left bar, 'configure executable...' button, name it 'BOSS', then in 'binary' direct it to the path for 'BOSS.exe.' Click 'add' then 'ok.' Then run BOSS by selecting it in the top right drop-down menu and click the 'run' button).

 

If you get a BOSS log, then it worked, and we will move on to the next step (Wrye Bash).

Edited January 20, 2013 by ripple

[hentaishinri]

Okay, thank you both for the replies :)) I'm going to work on it right now and I'll keep you updated on how it went :rolleyes: Going to try them out now :)

 

Update: the MO has a FANTASTIC build in tutorial system and I am literally laughing right now, because it's so useful(and also polite :D) and it's showing me what to do and what not to do. I started a new game, deleted all my saves. Now I will install the cloaks mods and the re-texture mods (because I have a feeling they are the most heavy ones) and i will post an update.

Edited January 22, 2013 by hentaishinri

[gamefever]

Ripple I'm seroiusly thinking of using MO soon,

 

Just too used to the old ways

[hentaishinri]

Edit: I had a problem with SkyUI but i figured out how to fix it.

Now I have a problem with BOSS

I added boss.exe as an executable, but when I try to run it, this happens:

http://i.imgur.com/oqnNRca.png?1?6450

Edited January 22, 2013 by hentaishinri