A modding puzzle

[RickshawWatcher]

Here's a log of my slow descent into madness. I just can't seem to figure out what is causing the final issue, which makes the game unplayable since I can't talk to NPCs, open inventories of NPCs or Containers (though containers with animations animate), activate things except doors, and many weapons have the ! icon for mesh errors.

 

Installing Manually

 

NVSE

DarnifiedNV (edited Fallout_default.ini, edited Fallout.ini, edited Fallout_Prefs.ini)

fnv4GB nvse version

Fake_Fullscreen

 

Installing with NVMM

 

Mission Mojave 8a

Mission Mojave POP

Mission Mojave Plus

Courier's Stash Pre-Order Pack Selector

Active Wasteland 151

A World of Pain Main File v5 and Basic Patches

NVInteriors Project Core

NVInteriors Combo AWOP

NVInteriors Combo AWOP Tweaks DLC

Mission Mojave NVInteriors-AWOP Compatibility Patch

 

Game Tested

Game Crashes on Startup

Running Load Order through BOSS

Running Load Order through FNVedit

 

Active Wasteland is throwing up many warnings about overwritten records regarding Vanilla

 

Replacements, Dead Money Replacements, etc.

Researching the issue.

Seems to be normal.

 

Creating a Merged Patch and then attempting to run again.

Crash on startup.

 

Uninstalled Active Wasteland.

 

Creating new Marged Patch.

Crash on startup.

 

Realized that the Darnified UI esp was not installed.

Darn it.

 

Creating Merged Patch without Active Wasteland.

Game succesfully starts up.

 

Readding Active Wasteland and creating merged patch.

Game Succesfully starts up.

 

Project Nevada Installed

Project Nevada Extra Options Installed

MMUE Project Nevada Patch Grab Bag Installed.

All Project Nevada ESM and ESPs activated, disabled MMUE-CP-PNOWB.

 

Creating Merged Patch.

New Message has appeared.

"Found a MSTT reference, expected: ALCH,AMMO,ARMO,BOOK,CCRD,CHIP,CMNY,IMOD,KEYM,LIGH,LVLI,MISC,NOTE,WEAP"

Researching patches for installed mods and Project Nevada.

Attempting with Merged Patch for Shiggles.

Does not crash during Doc Mitchell sequence. Surprising.

Research for patches proves fruitless. Moving on.

 

Installing Advanced Recon Ranger Helmet.

Installing Advanced Recon Glowing Eyes for Helmet

Installing Advanced Recon Range Finder

Installing Advanced Recon Riot Gear Helmet

Installing Advanced Recon Steath Gear

Installing Advanced Recon Trap Detection

Installing Thermal Nightvision - Advanced Recon Gear

Installing Thermal Nightvision - Ranger Recon Glowing Eyes

 

Assuming mods installed so far work with current mods.

 

Installing Afterschool Special

Installing Bottle that Water

Installing Bountiful Harvest

 

BOSS Sorting, Creating Merged Patch, and running Doc Mitchell Sequence.

Another occurence of "Found a MSTT reference, expected: ALCH,AMMO,ARMO,BOOK,CCRD,CHIP,CMNY,IMOD,KEYM,LIGH,LVLI,MISC,NOTE,WEAP"

Trying not to worry about it.

Doc Mitchell Sequence Succesful.

 

Installing Centered 3rd Person Camera

Installing Classic Fallout Weapons 3.3b Final

Installing Classic Fallout Weapons All DLC in one

Installing Classic Fallout Weapons Project Nevada Patch

Installing DLC Weapons and Armor in the Mojave

Installing Fallout 3 Weapons Restoration

Installing F3WR Sound Restoration

Installing I Got Spurs

Installing More Realistic Aiming

 

BOSS sorting

Creating Merged Patch,

"Found a MSTT reference, expected: ALCH,AMMO,ARMO,BOOK,CCRD,CHIP,CMNY,IMOD,KEYM,LIGH,LVLI,MISC,NOTE,WEAP"

Running Doc Mitchell Sequence.

Succesful.

 

Installing Caesards New Regime Integrated and Updated

Installing Legion Overhaul Update

Installing Explorer for Vanilla Male Body

Installing Mission Mojave Compatibility Patch

Installing NCR Rearmament Lore Friendly

 

BOSS Sorting.

creating Merged Patch.

"Found a MSTT reference, expected: ALCH,AMMO,ARMO,BOOK,CCRD,CHIP,CMNY,IMOD,KEYM,LIGH,LVLI,MISC,NOTE,WEAP"

Starting Doc Mitchell Sequence.

Succesful.

 

Installing Fellout

Installing Fellout Old World Blues

Installing Fellout Friend of the Night Perk

Installing FNV Project Reality

Installing rePOPULATED WASTELAND

Installing MMUE rePOPULATED patch

Installing Electro City

Installing MMUE Electro Patch

 

Sorting in BOSS.

Creating Merged Patch.

"Found a MSTT reference, expected: ALCH,AMMO,ARMO,BOOK,CCRD,CHIP,CMNY,IMOD,KEYM,LIGH,LVLI,MISC,NOTE,WEAP"

Starting Doc Mitchell Sequence.

Succesful.

 

Installing NPCsUseAmmo

NPCs Use Ammo - More Ammo Disabled

Installing Better Junk Rounds Perk

Installing Drugs Are Bad Mkay

Installing Interior Lighting Overhaul (Ultimate Edition, AWOP)

Installing More Perks

Installing Companion Perks

Installing Dead Money Perks

Installing Honest Hearts Perks

Installing Old World Blues Perks

Installing More Traits

Installing Gedon Vaultboy Images

Installing Improved Companion SandBox

 

Sorting in BOSS

creating Merged Patch

"Found a MSTT reference, expected: ALCH,AMMO,ARMO,BOOK,CCRD,CHIP,CMNY,IMOD,KEYM,LIGH,LVLI,MISC,NOTE,WEAP"

Starting Doc Mitchell Sequence

Succesful

 

Installed Weapon Mods Expanded (All Options)

Installed Project Nevada WMX Patch

Installed MMUE WMX Patch

Installed Mod Configuration Menu

Installed CASM MCM

Installed FlashlightNVSE

Installed Leather Backpack

Disabled Russian Version

Installed Mini Nuke C4

Installed Pipboys to the people

Installed Plausible Item Weight and Ammo

Installed Populated Casinos

Installed Project Ultimatum

 

Sorting in BOSS

Creating Merged Patch

"Found a MSTT reference, expected: ALCH,AMMO,ARMO,BOOK,CCRD,CHIP,CMNY,IMOD,KEYM,LIGH,LVLI,MISC,NOTE,WEAP"

Starting Doc Mitchel Sequence

Succesful

 

Installed One Hud

Installed Powered Power Armor

Installed PPA Hotfix

Installed Quick Trade

Installed Real Smokes

Installed Selective Fire

Installed Smoothlight

Installed Weapon Mod Menu

Installed Role Players Alternative Start

Installed Tutorial Killer

Installed Unified Hud Project

 

Soring in BOSS

Whoops

Disabling Powered Power Armor Ambient Temperature Patch

Creating Merged Patch

"Found a MSTT reference, expected:

 

ALCH,AMMO,ARMO,BOOK,CCRD,CHIP,CMNY,IMOD,KEYM,LIGH,LVLI,MISC,NOTE,WEAP"

Starting Alternative Start Sequence

"Project Nevada - Extra Options HUD aspects missing"

Suspect Unified Hud Project

Placed by mod in Mojave Outpost.

Started Combat, Game slowed then crashed.

Recommend New Vegas configator memory increase

 

Uninstalled MMUE rePOPULATED WASTELAND

Uninstalled rePOPULATED WASTELAND

 

Installed Weapon Animations Replacer

Installed Wasteland Flora Overhaul Dead Version

Installed Unlimited Companions

Installed Ultimate Invisible Wall Remover

Installed New Bison Steve Hotel

Installed Baby Deathclaw

Installed Buildable Bots

Installed Robco Certified

Installed rePOPULATED WASTELAND

Installed MMUE rePOPULATED WASTELAND

Increased Memory Usage with New Vegas Configator

 

BOSS Sorting

Running FNVEdit

Creating Merged Patch

"Found a MSTT reference, expected: ALCH,AMMO,ARMO,BOOK,CCRD,CHIP,CMNY,IMOD,KEYM,LIGH,LVLI,MISC,NOTE,WEAP"

Starting Alternative Start Sequence

"Project Nevada - Extra Options HUD aspects missing"

Succesful.

Noticing a lot of lag, maybe decrease resolution from 1440x900 to 1280x800.

 

Installing Satchels

Installing SCAV Hotfix

Disabled SCAV Lite

Installing Tailor Maid

Installing Desmond Harper

Installing Niner

Installing Niner vanilla Body

 

Sorting in BOSS

Runing Through FNV Edit

Lots of Errors in Niner

Creating Merged Patch

"Found a MSTT reference, expected:

 

ALCH,AMMO,ARMO,BOOK,CCRD,CHIP,CMNY,IMOD,KEYM,LIGH,LVLI,MISC,NOTE,WEAP"

Running Alternative Start sequence

"Project Nevada - Extra Options HUD aspects missing"

Did not crash but...

1. Silenced .22 Pistol has lost texture and meshes

2. Cannot access the ESC menu

3. Cannot search enemies

Looking in FNVEdit

Trying to validate cache with steam

only 7kB worth of data were redownloaded, most likely ini files.

Darnified reapplied.

 

Uninstalled Desmond

Uninstalled Niner

Uninstalled Niner Vanilla Body

Installed New Vegas Bounties 1

Installed NVB1 Ferguson Fix

Installed New Vegas Bounties 2

 

BOSS Sorting

Opening in FNVEdit

Creating Merged Patch

"Found a MSTT reference, expected: ALCH,AMMO,ARMO,BOOK,CCRD,CHIP,CMNY,IMOD,KEYM,LIGH,LVLI,MISC,NOTE,WEAP"

Decreasing Resolution to 1280x800

Starting Alt-Start Sequence

"Project Nevada - Extra Options HUD aspects missing"

Started in Goodsprings

Issues -

1. Could not open containers (instantly close)

2. Could not talk to NPCs.

3. Could not go to pause menu

4. Coult not pickpocket enemies

5. All vanilla ranged weapons (except for Doc's broken 9mm Submachine Gun) had mesh error flags and made no noise when fired

6. Crash on close.

 

Final Mod List as sorted by load order

 

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

ClassicPack.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

CaravanPack.esm

Companion Core.esm

Active Wasteland.esm

Advanced Recon Tech.esm

Afterschool Special.esm

CFWNV.esm

Detect Traps.esm

Inventory Access.esm

AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm

More Perks.esm

More Perks for Companions.esm

More Perks for Dead Money.esm

More Perks for Honest Hearts.esm

More Perks for Old World Blues.esm

More Traits.esm

NVInteriors_Core.esm

NVInteriors_ComboEdition_AWOP.esm

Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

rePopulated Wasteland.esm

RobCo Certified.esm

Run the Lucky 38.esm

SCAV.esm

Selective Fire.esm

ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm

ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm

oHUD.esm

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

Mission Mojave - Ultimate Edition.esp

MMUE POP.esp

MMUE-CP-Electrocity.esp

DarNifiedUINV.esp

CASM.esp

Centered 3rd Person Camera.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

NPCsUseAmmo.esp

NPCsUseAmmo-More Ammo.esp [disabled]

populatedcasino.esp

NVInteriors_Combo_AWOP_Tweaks_DLC.esp

The New Bison Steve Hotel.esp

Selective Fire - Project Nevada.esp

Detect Traps - Perk.esp

More Perks Update.esp

More Perks for Companions Update.esp

More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp

More Perks for Honest Hearts Update.esp

More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp

More Traits Update.esp

Active Wasteland - Vanilla Replacements.esp

Active Wasteland - Coffee Maker.esp

Active Wasteland - Goggle Tints.esp

Active Wasteland - Dead Money Replacements.esp

Active Wasteland - Dead Money Coffee Maker.esp

Active Wasteland - Dead Money Goggle Tints.esp

Detect Traps - Traponator 4000.esp

Detect Traps - DLC.esp

DrugsAreBadMKay.esp

FeelingIrradiated.esp

BuildableBotsNV.esp

Bountiful Harvest.esp

Advanced Recon Gear.esp

Advanced Recon Tech.esp

Advanced Recon Tech - Detect Traps.esp

c4nuke.esp

FO3WeaponsRestoration.esp

FO3WeaponsRestoration_SoundRestoration.esp

Advanced Recon Armor.esp

Advanced Recon Desert Ranger Helmet.esp

Advanced Recon Range Finder.esp

Advanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.esp

FlashlightNVSE.esp

LeatherBackpack - eng.esp

Leather backpack - rus.esp [disabled]

NCR Rearmament v1.5 (Lore).esp

Powered Power Armor.esp

Ambient Temperature - PPA.esp [disabled]

Tailor Maid - NV.esp

w44Satchels - Full.esp

w44Satchels - Lite.esp [disabled]

MMUE-CP-AWOP+NVInteriors.esp

MMUE-CP-PNCore.esp

MMUE-CP-PNRebalance.esp

MMUE-CP-PNEquipment.esp

MMUE-CP-PNOWB.esp [disabled]

MMUE-CP-rePopulated.esp

NVBabyDeathclawCommander.esp

RobCo Certified Friendly Hit Fixer.esp

UnlimitedCompanions.esp

UnlimitedCompanions SCRIPT FIX.esp

Couriers Stash - Package Selection Menu.esp

Jump Fall Fixer.esp

LFox Bottle That Water.esp

More Realistic Aiming.esp

Quick Trade.esp

Reactive People - Ultimatum.esp

WeaponModsExpanded.esp

Project Nevada - WMX.esp

WMX-ModernWeapons.esp

WMX-DeadMoney.esp

WMX-HonestHearts.esp

WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp

WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp

WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp

WMX-MW-GRA.esp

WMX-PreOrderPackClassic.esp

WMX-PreOrderPackCaravan.esp

WMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.esp

WMX-PreOrderPackTribal.esp

MMUE-CP-WMX.esp

Vurt's WFO.esp

Fellout.esp

Fellout-OWB.esp

friendofnightforfellout.esp

ProjectRealityMkIv5HDR.esp

Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp

ILO - A World of Pain.esp

Mission Mojave - Ultimate Edition Plus.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

MMUE-CP-PNALLDLC.esp

Advanced Recon Riot Gear Helmet.esp

CFW-DLC.esp

CFW-PN.esp

CFW-PN-DLC.esp

DLC WITM - Complete.esp

I Got Spurs.esp

CNR_Beta.esp

BetterJunkRoundsPerk.esp

Companion Sandbox Mode3.esp

PipBoysToThePeople.esp

PN-CP-ItemWeight-AmmoPrice-2-1.esp

RealSmokes.esp

HZSmoothLight.esp

Alternative Start.esp

Tutorial Killer - Factions.esp

Tutorial Killer - Project Nevada.esp

Tutorial Killer.esp

The Lucky 38 Empire.esp

Ultimate Invisible Wall Remover.esp

NewVegasBounties.esp

NewVegasBountiesII.esp

Adam's Merged Patch.esp

 

BOSS Stats

Recognised 130

Unrecognised 25

Inactive 5

Total 155

[JimboUK]

I don't know if this is the cause of the issue but you have too many mods running, anything over 140ish causes issues.

[luthienanarion]

Like jim mentioned, 140+ will cause severe game engine corruption. Running that many plugins, regardless of their size or what they do, is not an option in New Vegas. Edited January 21, 2013 by luthienanarion

[RickshawWatcher]

Ah. I had heard (from Gopher on his modding tutorials, I believe) that a good maximum was 200 plugins. I guess I should rethink this a bit and trim the fat and see if that fixes my issues. I'll post back later with results.

 

UPDATE at 10:43 PM, same day

 

Uninstalled Baby Deathclaw Commander

Uninstalled Buildable Bots

Uninstalled Mini Nuke

Uninstalled Project Ultimatum

Uninstalled RobCo Certified

Uninstalled Unlimited Companions Updated

Uninstalled Smoothlight

Uninstalled DLC Weapons in the Wasteland

 

Sorting in BOSS

Running FNVEdit

Creating Merged Patch

Found a MSTT reference, expected: ALCH,AMMO,ARMO,BOOK,CCRD,CHIP,CMNY,IMOD,KEYM,LIGH,LVLI,MISC,NOTE,WEAP

Merged Patch is loaded 137th

Starting Alt Start Sequence

 

Game works. Lag when opening inventories or going to pause menus but everything works.

Edited January 22, 2013 by RickshawWatcher