Deseoso Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Is it possible to run Fallout NV as a stand alone game. I have taken the advice of lots of different people on here and have dramatically reduced the amount of time my game crashes but I still get only an hour at most of playtime between each crash. Luckily most of my crashes are preceded by a loss of some of the sound effects so I usually can just hit F5 in time before the game shuts down. My computer specs are all well above the minimum requirements of the game so I am left wondering if Steam is the cause of it. The only other thing I have noticed as I play is that the sound that the computer hard drive makes when it is doing something gets more and more continual as I play the game. When I start playing it usually only sounds like the computer is processing something each time I enter a new area or enter a building. Just before the game crashes, usually between 20 minutes and an hour after start playing, the hard drive is whirring away pretty much constantly. Is that normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luthienanarion Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Circumventing Steam in order to run the game without it is not allowed. Don't even discuss it on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deseoso Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 (edited) Well, I am glad I took the time to read through some info I found on how Steam works, especially their Offline Mode. I know I am answering my own question but I will do so anyway in case anyone else has wondered the same thing about Steam. While you do have to use Steam to run Fallout NV, you can set it to run in Offline Mode so that it doesn't have to start Steam up and go online each time you want to play. Tomorrow I will give it a try and see if it solves some of the crashes I'm having with the game. As for the whole, "do not discuss running the game without Steam on this forum because it is not allowed", let's not be ridiculous. This is 2013 and I strongly believe in free speech. Plus I will not blindly follow a rule just because it is there. This is a single player game and Steam is an online service. If you need Steam to run the game then fine. If, as you make it sound, you could run Fallout NV without Steam but you, "are not allowed" then I am curious as to why so I will ask? You can be a robot and blindly do what you are told if you want but not me, sorry. Edited January 24, 2013 by Deseoso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luthienanarion Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 You paid for a license to play the game through Steam, not however you feel like it. Any usage outside of that license constitutes piracy, not just illegal copies of the game. This is not a public forum, and freedom of speech does not apply here. Discussion of pirating methods--including the circumvention of Steam's DRM function--is not allowed and will result in your account being banned. A lot of people here would rather not be required to use Steam to play New Vegas, but we were not consulted when Bethesda made that decision. We, and you, made the decision to buy it anyway, and running Steam is part of the package. If connectivity is a concern, put Steam into offline mode while you're still connected to the Internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deseoso Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 I was unaware that I was only paying for a licence to play the game and not paying for the actual game so thank you for clearing that up for me but I still stand by opinion that people should be restricted from discussing topics such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBoredBoredKid Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 You paid for a license to play the game through Steam, not however you feel like it. Any usage outside of that license constitutes piracy, not just illegal copies of the game. This is not a public forum, and freedom of speech does not apply here. Can you direct me to a vegas mod forum where freedom of speech does apply? I don't like my freedom being impaired. And it bothers me that unpaid members of a forum state the corporate rules like that... "you paid for a license".. lmao. As for the whole, "do not discuss running the game without Steam on this forum because it is not allowed", let's not be ridiculous. This is 2013 and I strongly believe in free speech. I tried running it without steam because steam (combined with all the other programs) was an unnecessary drain on the CPU... but I literally couldn't even get the game to load without it. To be honest I haven't actually looked for a way to remove steam because the F12 picture key is pretty useful, but since the game is hardwired into steam I doubt there's a way to get rid of it altogether :( My advice; disconnect from the internet, load up vegas as normal and when steam appears, "start in offline mode" and it won't cause any CPU performance lag, which is probably your reason for wanting it gone, then reconnect to the internet and steam will remain offline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blove Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 ...Can you direct me to a vegas mod forum where freedom of speech does apply? I don't like my freedom being impaired. And it bothers me that unpaid members of a forum state the corporate rules like that... "you paid for a license".. lmao... Unless Obama created one recently...no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVampireDante Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Can you direct me to a vegas mod forum where freedom of speech does apply? I don't like my freedom being impaired. And it bothers me that unpaid members of a forum state the corporate rules like that... "you paid for a license".. lmao. Just for your information - the moderating staff here (including the Admin) are also unpaid, so "corporate rule" as an excuse for pointing out the legalities and rules goes out the window there. This is a privately own site though - and there is no "free speech" on private ground - you respect the regulations of the site, or you leave. Can't be any more simple. And yes - you paid for a license to run the software - you don't "own" the product, read the EULA next time. As for the "run it offline" subject: 1. Run steam in offline mode 0r 2. Unplug your internet connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBoredBoredKid Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Can you direct me to a vegas mod forum where freedom of speech does apply? I don't like my freedom being impaired. And it bothers me that unpaid members of a forum state the corporate rules like that... "you paid for a license".. lmao. Just for your information - the moderating staff here (including the Admin) are also unpaid, so "corporate rule" as an excuse for pointing out the legalities and rules goes out the window there. This is a privately own site though - and there is no "free speech" on private ground - you respect the regulations of the site, or you leave. Can't be any more simple. And yes - you paid for a license to run the software - you don't "own" the product, read the EULA next time. Yeah I didn't think Nexus was actually a business, it's the fact that it *is* unpaid that makes the legal jargon so strange, but I guess it's a sign of the times these days. It's always depressing to have creative endeavors shot down by people saying that something's illegal; it makes you think "what's the point" of trying to do anything since pretty much everything has some copyright stamp on it at this point; technically porting a mod into Vegas that was made using Fallout 3 resources is a massive violation of copyright principles, it's not something Obsidian would waste their time sueing over, but I've noticed a couple of mods disappear because of it, and yet many others stay up there. Also, i know there are a few other fallout mod communities out there (not really my thing though, they seem to revolve around loli and comically big tits) which have no problem with using copyright content... what's the problem with nexus doing it? Obsidian or whoever Chris Avellone sold Fallout to doesn't seem to be filing multi million dollar lawsuits to sue these other forums, have they threatened nexus in the past? Just curious as to the reasons behind it- because the copyright stuff is so unattractive to creative people... and it's supposed to be about modding. Personally I wouldn't take down user made content over these issues, if Obsidian gets in touch and complains, then sure take it down, but there's no reason to police everybody and do their job for them. Copyright (and stupid things like forcing games to be played through steam for example) is really annoying, and I just feel that if forums and big sites like nexus just roll over then it doesn't encourage the game makers to change policy in the future. If you polled people right here, right now, and asked them whether they enjoyed being *forced* to have to run steam every time, do you think they'd say yes? In the past mod communities would get together and try and find a way to work around it- and that's why they were so cool.. that's why they existed in the first place, but it seems unlikely to happen here. I'm not complaining about the individuals involved here, just about the trend in the general. Just had to add that in case you took any of that the wrong way ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeWelshGuy Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) Can you direct me to a vegas mod forum where freedom of speech does apply? I don't like my freedom being impaired. And it bothers me that unpaid members of a forum state the corporate rules like that... "you paid for a license".. lmao. Just for your information - the moderating staff here (including the Admin) are also unpaid, so "corporate rule" as an excuse for pointing out the legalities and rules goes out the window there. This is a privately own site though - and there is no "free speech" on private ground - you respect the regulations of the site, or you leave. Can't be any more simple. And yes - you paid for a license to run the software - you don't "own" the product, read the EULA next time. Yeah I didn't think Nexus was actually a business, it's the fact that it *is* unpaid that makes the legal jargon so strange, but I guess it's a sign of the times these days. It's always depressing to have creative endeavors shot down by people saying that something's illegal; it makes you think "what's the point" of trying to do anything since pretty much everything has some copyright stamp on it at this point; technically porting a mod into Vegas that was made using Fallout 3 resources is a massive violation of copyright principles, it's not something Obsidian would waste their time sueing over, but I've noticed a couple of mods disappear because of it, and yet many others stay up there. Also, i know there are a few other fallout mod communities out there (not really my thing though, they seem to revolve around loli and comically big tits) which have no problem with using copyright content... what's the problem with nexus doing it? Obsidian or whoever Chris Avellone sold Fallout to doesn't seem to be filing multi million dollar lawsuits to sue these other forums, have they threatened nexus in the past? Just curious as to the reasons behind it- because the copyright stuff is so unattractive to creative people... and it's supposed to be about modding. Personally I wouldn't take down user made content over these issues, if Obsidian gets in touch and complains, then sure take it down, but there's no reason to police everybody and do their job for them. Copyright (and stupid things like forcing games to be played through steam for example) is really annoying, and I just feel that if forums and big sites like nexus just roll over then it doesn't encourage the game makers to change policy in the future. If you polled people right here, right now, and asked them whether they enjoyed being *forced* to have to run steam every time, do you think they'd say yes? In the past mod communities would get together and try and find a way to work around it- and that's why they were so cool.. that's why they existed in the first place, but it seems unlikely to happen here. I'm not complaining about the individuals involved here, just about the trend in the general. Just had to add that in case you took any of that the wrong way ;)Using assets between Bethesda games is illegal, and if a mod is found doing that here then it'll be removed. Same with any content ported from other games. You're ripping resources from games and re-packaging them. Bethesda give you the licence to utilise their resources (on a per-game basis), but nothing more, so it's not just "technically a violation", it is a violation of copyright rules. Bethesda have been kind enough to still provide full modding support for their games (unlike other developers/publishers), all they ask for in return are a few rules. The Nexus is good in that it obeys these rules. And yes, Bethesda have contacted the Nexus staff before about requesting mods to be removed that don't follow these rules. Edited January 26, 2013 by SomeWelshGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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