just another guy with CTD's problems

[ripple]

Clean first before you try and tackle conflicting records. It's basically a three step process. Apply filter, remove identical to master entries, and undelete references/set them to disabled (the last one is more important, CTD prevention wise). After you've done that for the esp's flagged by BOSS as in need to cleaning, look through the records of the esp's not recognized by BOSS one by one, see if there are any conflicts with other mods.

[AudiS3]

Hi, i did this steps Apply filter, remove identical to master entries, and undelete references/set them to disabled just like you said but in all of mods can only clean some of the dirty errors, the mod stays in red and with dirty errors, and the step of undelete references tes5edit always says 0 references undeleted, i dont know whats wrong, it was suppose to clean all the dirty errors and undeleted references, right?

[ripple]

Hi, i did this steps Apply filter, remove identical to master entries, and undelete references/set them to disabled just like you said but in all of mods can only clean some of the dirty errors, the mod stays in red and with dirty errors, and the step of undelete references tes5edit always says 0 references undeleted, i dont know whats wrong, it was suppose to clean all the dirty errors and undeleted references, right?

 

Just clean the esp's and esm's flagged by your BOSS log as in need of cleaning, don't touch the other esp's. 'Red' does not mean error, it means conflict (with other esp'). But that is not an issue you need to worry about right now. The only time you should be concerned about conflict right now is when you are checking out an esp in TES5Edit which BOSS does not recognize and has not arranged in the load order. These esp's should not be allowed to load at the end of the load order, unless you've checked them in TES5Edit and found they do not conflict with any other esp's in your load order. If they do conflict, then you need to see where the conflict is and decided, based on that, where in the load order they should go. If you see conflict and you are not sure what they mean, post some screenshots here and we'll try to help.

 

After you've established a clean and well maintained load order by doing al of that, then rebuild your compatibility patches (Bashed Patch and ReProccer). Repost your BOSS log so we can help verify everything is in order.

[AudiS3]

Hi, i did this steps Apply filter, remove identical to master entries, and undelete references/set them to disabled just like you said but in all of mods can only clean some of the dirty errors, the mod stays in red and with dirty errors, and the step of undelete references tes5edit always says 0 references undeleted, i dont know whats wrong, it was suppose to clean all the dirty errors and undeleted references, right?

 

Just clean the esp's and esm's flagged by your BOSS log as in need of cleaning, don't touch the other esp's. 'Red' does not mean error, it means conflict (with other esp'). But that is not an issue you need to worry about right now. The only time you should be concerned about conflict right now is when you are checking out an esp in TES5Edit which BOSS does not recognize and has not arranged in the load order. These esp's should not be allowed to load at the end of the load order, unless you've checked them in TES5Edit and found they do not conflict with any other esp's in your load order. If they do conflict, then you need to see where the conflict is and decided, based on that, where in the load order they should go. If you see conflict and you are not sure what they mean, post some screenshots here and we'll try to help.

 

After you've established a clean and well maintained load order by doing al of that, then rebuild your compatibility patches (Bashed Patch and ReProccer). Repost your BOSS log so we can help verify everything is in order.

 

Ok will do that, i already cleaned the ones flagged by BOSS, i'm not at home right now, when i get home i will post the log from BOSS.

 

My load order is this, only had 4 mods that Boss didnt recognized (more realistic loot list, osare gothic lolita, outfitsellertele and lilith)

(and the list just for you to see if everything is allright with my load order):

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

ApachiiHairMales.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

SPIKE.esm

UndergroundBathhouse.esm

Magnus50.esp

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

USKP_addon.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-VanillaNights-Lvl-4.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

MintyLightningMod.esp

MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp

Fantasy Music Overhaul Redone.esp

moredragonloot.esp

RealisticLootList.esp - organized by me

Zira's Skyrim Horse Base.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

WetandCold.esp

SkyUI.esp

bouncy_bodices_for_unp_bbp.esp

bouncy_booties.esp

bouncy_belts_and_stockings.esp

DemonHunterV2armor.esp

DHuntress.esp

DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp

FlameAtronachArmor.esp

FullBootForKKSA.esp

HeatWavev4.esp

LeatherBackpackBlack-300.esp

Neo's Oriental Dress.esp

Osare GothicLolita.esp

SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp

Temptressdressv1.esp

TERAArmors_CBBE.esp

TS_FetishPantyhoseOutfits.esp

TS_StripperDresses.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

Osare GothicLolita BU.esp (its a costume) - organized by me

CrimsonQuest3.esp

Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp

Syerscote.esp

Thane's Breezehome.esp

outfitsellertele.esp (door in riverwood to qasmoke testing hall) - organized by me

ub_invite_any_npc.esp

morerealisticcarrying.esp

AccessibleMerchantStorage.esp

AchieveThat.esp

Babette.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

Marriable Serana.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

dD-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

MidasSkyrim.esp

SkyRe_Main.esp

SkyRe_Combat.esp

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp

Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp

3DNPC.esp

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp

Sexier Housecarls.esp

CerwidenCompanion.esp

CerwidenAppearancePatch.esp

LylvieveSisters.esp

SkyRe_Races.esp

Lilith.esp (follower) -organized by me

Atlas Map Markers.esp

Atlas Blackreach.esp

Atlas Dawnguard.esp

Atlas Hearthfire.esp

Follower Map Markers.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

ReProccer.esp

[AudiS3]

Here is my list from BOSS with the mods added by me with BOSS User list:

 

Skyrim.esm Active Checksum: C665FD56

 

Update.esm Active Checksum: 95ECDE44

 

Dawnguard.esm Active Checksum: F0CDA3D1Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

HearthFires.esm Active Checksum: 1BC399F5

 

ApachiiHair.esm Active Checksum: 783F7167

 

ApachiiHairMales.esm Active Checksum: 4D05C883

 

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active Checksum: 8A5417B1

 

SPIKE.esm Active Checksum: 418D8B2F

 

UndergroundBathhouse.esm Active Checksum: 2F7A8A4

 

Magnus50.esp Active Checksum: 1003FA02

 

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active Checksum: 75511D3CBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

USKP_addon.esp Active Checksum: 55CA16BF

 

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active Checksum: B854A556Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active Checksum: ED07B97B

 

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp Active Checksum: 3080CEA3

 

ClimatesOfTamriel-VanillaNights-Lvl-4.esp Active Checksum: E1477150

 

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active Checksum: 77C47623

 

MintyLightningMod.esp Active Checksum: A6EFD75F

 

MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp Active Checksum: 71174667

 

Fantasy Music Overhaul Redone.esp Active Checksum: 228D63A8

 

moredragonloot.esp Active Checksum: 6C36D066

 

RealisticLootList.esp Active Checksum: 10B9D796

 

Outfitsellertele.esp Active Checksum: 65DFF298

 

Zira's Skyrim Horse Base.esp Active Checksum: 5BFB075F

 

Convenient Horses.esp Active Checksum: 53592306

 

WetandCold.esp Active Checksum: CBD13035

 

SkyUI.esp Active Checksum: DDE298BF

 

bouncy_bodices_for_unp_bbp.esp Active Checksum: DC518D95Note: Be sure you have the correct body replacer installed for this esp. Use only one version.

 

bouncy_booties.esp Active Checksum: E93CAE3DNote: Be sure you have the correct bouncy_bodices mod installed for this esp.

 

bouncy_belts_and_stockings.esp Active Checksum: DEB58C13Requires: UNP or UNPB body. Should work with all versions.

 

DemonHunterV2armor.esp Active Checksum: FFD3A00DRequires: CBBE female body.

 

DHuntress.esp Active Checksum: 35F0F141Requires: CBBE female body.

 

DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp Active Checksum: FCB07607

 

FlameAtronachArmor.esp Active Checksum: 4CB65954Requires: CBBE female body.

 

FullBootForKKSA.esp Active Checksum: 2A065A06Requires: CBBE female body.

 

HeatWavev4.esp Active Checksum: B5433CE6

 

LeatherBackpackBlack-300.esp Active Checksum: AADAA051Note: Use only one LeatherBackPack Black esp

 

Neo's Oriental Dress.esp Active Checksum: A650212D

 

Osare GothicLolita.esp Active Checksum: 1AD3A759

 

Osare GothicLolita BU.esp Active Checksum: 1976527E

 

SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp Active Checksum: 3C306483Note: Be sure you have the correct body mod for the esp.

DIMONIZED UNP or CBBE.

 

Temptressdressv1.esp Active Checksum: FC98E789

TERAArmors_CBBE.esp Active Checksum: 1D3662EFRequires: CBBE female body.

 

TS_FetishPantyhoseOutfits.esp Active Checksum: 8F1944AD

 

Dr_Bandolier.esp Active Checksum: 5D9D8E39

 

CrimsonQuest3.esp Active Checksum: D58CFB1A

 

Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp Active Checksum: 22764CACRequires: CBBE

 

Syerscote.esp Active Checksum: EA483AF1

 

Thane's Breezehome.esp Active Checksum: E6F7E10A

 

ub_invite_any_npc.esp Active Checksum: 4C0EB8EF

 

morerealisticcarrying.esp Active Checksum: 21A65176

 

AchieveThat.esp Active Checksum: D89B7BF5

 

Babette.esp Active Checksum: DCC39745

 

BetterQuestObjectives.esp Active Checksum: BCD35920

 

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active Checksum: F99AC53B

 

Immersive Weapons.esp Active Checksum: 1A9E8753Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

 

Marriable Serana.esp Active Checksum: 8153B68B

 

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active Checksum: 264C49AD

 

dD-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active Checksum: 70B29290

 

MidasSkyrim.esp Active Checksum: D931DDED

 

SkyRe_Main.esp Active Checksum: 48B3917FBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}

Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here.

Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.

Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:

Note: [Actor]

Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000

Note: [Combat]

Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

 

SkyRe_Combat.esp Active Checksum: 82ABE1C1

 

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Active Checksum: 3F9BD9D

 

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp Active Checksum: 83B32DA5Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

 

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Active Checksum: 660F8C16

 

Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp Active Checksum: 185BF5F0

 

3DNPC.esp Active Checksum: 9F73ECDF

 

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp Active Checksum: AE06DF54

 

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active Checksum: 396AE69FNote: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.

 

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Active Checksum: A7A56D2

 

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Active Checksum: 47AA94A

 

Sexier Housecarls.esp Active Checksum: F6DC42D

 

CerwidenCompanion.esp Active Checksum: FEB5909

 

CerwidenAppearancePatch.esp Active Checksum: 633F53CA

 

LylvieveSisters.esp Active Checksum: C3201C1C

 

Lilith.esp Active Checksum: E233C365

 

SkyRe_Races.esp Active Checksum: EFA737F7

 

Atlas Map Markers.esp Active Checksum: 440DD6DB

 

Atlas Blackreach.esp Active Checksum: 51A11D92

 

Atlas Dawnguard.esp Active Checksum: AA38AD29

 

Atlas Hearthfire.esp Active Checksum: A4FBA97B

 

Follower Map Markers.esp Active Checksum: FE0325A3

 

Bashed Patch, 0.esp Active Checksum: 2C5BA0DD

 

ReProccer.esp Active Checksum: 451FC847

 

And my user rules (i think i did the rules well :)

 

 

Sort RealisticLootList.esp after moredragonloot.esp

 

Sort Outfitsellertele.esp after Testing Hall Door.esp

 

Sort Osare GothicLolita BU.esp after Osare GothicLolita.esp

 

Insert Lilith.esp at the bottom of Companions and NPCs

[ripple]

Looks ok. Give that load order a try. Do the 'worldspace stability test': after you finish the Helgan tutorial, run from Riverwood to Whiterun without saving, then run from Whiterun to Dawnstar. If you don't CTD at all then you *should* be ok for now (at least in the worldspace). Edited January 27, 2013 by ripple

[AudiS3]

Looks ok. Give that load order a try. Do the 'worldspace stability test': after you finish the Helgan tutorial, run from Riverwood to Whiterun without saving, then run from Whiterun to Dawnstar. If you don't CTD at all then you *should* be ok for now (at least in the worldspace).

 

Ok, will do that, i just load my save and save it with another name (my last 3 saves was acting very strange freezing in loading screen and serana disappear, i had to load a earlier save and save it again there, later i will report if its all good.

 

Thanks a lot for all the help.

[AudiS3]

Hi,

I start testing and i only played for 10 minutes, load my save killed a dragon that was near and start riding for 5 minutes and CTD time...

 

here is the last lines of the papyrus log:

 

warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp23"

stack:

[None].MintyQuestForkScript.getUpdateFrequencyFork() - "MintyConfigScript.psc" Line 191

[None].MintyQuestForkScript.getUpdateFrequency() - "MintyQuestForkScript.psc" Line 100

[None].MintyQuestForkScript.OnUpdate() - "MintyQuestForkScript.psc" Line ?

[01/28/2013 - 12:58:15PM] error: Unable to call RegisterForSingleUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].MintyQuestScript.RegisterForSingleUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].MintyQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "MintyQuestScript.psc" Line ?

[01/28/2013 - 12:58:15PM] error: Unable to call RegisterForSingleUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].MintyQuestSheetScript.RegisterForSingleUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].MintyQuestSheetScript.OnUpdate() - "MintyQuestSheetScript.psc" Line ?

[01/28/2013 - 12:58:15PM] error: Unable to call RegisterForSingleUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].MintyQuestForkScript.RegisterForSingleUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].MintyQuestForkScript.OnUpdate() - "MintyQuestForkScript.psc" Line ?

 

i think this MintyQuestForkScript is from Mintylightning mod, right?

[AudiS3]

Now i deactivate the Mintylightning mod and it only 2 minutes to CTD.

My papyrus log last lines:

 

error: Cannot call IsDead() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[None].USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.OnUpdate() - "USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.psc" Line 53

[01/28/2013 - 02:45:37PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp3"

stack:

[None].USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.OnUpdate() - "USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.psc" Line 53

[01/28/2013 - 02:45:37PM] error: Cannot call ForceRefTo() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[None].USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.OnUpdate() - "USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.psc" Line 76

[01/28/2013 - 02:45:37PM] error: Cannot call ForceRefTo() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[None].USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.OnUpdate() - "USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.psc" Line 77

[01/28/2013 - 02:45:38PM] error: Unable to call UnregisterForUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.UnregisterForUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.OnUpdate() - "USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.psc" Line 79

 

I finally discovered where the USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.psc is cumming from, he isalways in my payrus logs its the unnoficial skyrim patch why i dont lnow...

Edited January 28, 2013 by AudiS3

[AudiS3]

Now i deactivate the Unnoficial Skyrim patch, and CTD in minutes, last lines of the papyrus log:

 

(15000D63)]._WetPlayerAlias.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_WetPlayerAlias.psc" Line 10

[01/28/2013 - 03:36:43PM]

[01/28/2013 - 03:36:43PM] =====Wet and Cold is finished refreshing itself and searching for addons!=====

[01/28/2013 - 03:36:43PM]

[01/28/2013 - 03:36:48PM] AnimEvent: DragonForcefulLandEffect delivered by Dragon ([dragonactorscript < (FF001972)>])

[01/28/2013 - 03:36:49PM] error: Cannot call GetValueInt() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[ (0200B282)].DLC1DawnguardRuneAxeSCRIPT.OnUpdateGameTime() - "DLC1DawnguardRuneAxeSCRIPT.psc" Line 39

[01/28/2013 - 03:36:49PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp6"

stack:

[ (0200B282)].DLC1DawnguardRuneAxeSCRIPT.OnUpdateGameTime() - "DLC1DawnguardRuneAxeSCRIPT.psc" Line 39

[01/28/2013 - 03:37:00PM] AnimEvent: DragonTakeoffEffect delivered by Dragon ([dragonactorscript < (FF001972)>])

[01/28/2013 - 03:37:00PM] Dragon AnimPayLoad: DragonTakeoffEffect

[01/28/2013 - 03:37:00PM] AnimEvent: DragonTakeoffEffect delivered by Dragon ([dragonactorscript < (FF001972)>])

[01/28/2013 - 03:37:00PM] Dragon AnimPayLoad: DragonTakeoffEffect

[01/28/2013 - 03:37:01PM] AnimEvent: DragonTakeoffEffect delivered by Dragon ([dragonactorscript < (FF001972)>])

[01/28/2013 - 03:37:01PM] Dragon AnimPayLoad: DragonTakeoffEffect

[01/28/2013 - 03:37:07PM] AnimEvent: DragonForcefulLandEffect delivered by Dragon ([dragonactorscript < (FF001972)>])

[01/28/2013 - 03:37:11PM] AnimEvent: DragonTakeoffEffect delivered by Dragon ([dragonactorscript < (FF001972)>])

[01/28/2013 - 03:37:11PM] Dragon AnimPayLoad: DragonTakeoffEffect

[01/28/2013 - 03:37:11PM] AnimEvent: DragonTakeoffEffect delivered by Dragon ([dragonactorscript < (FF001972)>])

[01/28/2013 - 03:37:11PM] Dragon AnimPayLoad: DragonTakeoffEffect

[01/28/2013 - 03:37:12PM] error: Unable to bind script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped to Item 1 in container (0010EB1C) because their base types do not match

[01/28/2013 - 03:37:12PM] error: Unable to bind script xxxPassiveYari to Item 1 in container (0010EB1C) because their base types do not match

[01/28/2013 - 03:37:12PM] error: Unable to bind script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped to Item 1 in container (00061362) because their base types do not match

[01/28/2013 - 03:37:12PM] AnimEvent: DragonTakeoffEffect delivered by Dragon ([dragonactorscript < (FF001972)>])

[01/28/2013 - 03:37:12PM] Dragon AnimPayLoad: DragonTakeoffEffect

 

 

i see a DLC1DawnguardRuneAxeSCRIPT.psc now is Dawnguard that is making CTD??....

Idont know what else to do, im almost giving up on this...if it is my save that ruined i dont want to start alll over again, i have 144 hours invested in this game..