[desperate cry for help] Dragon Rising Quest not starting

[ryegauvin]

So I already did the bleak falls barrow quest, via the golden claw, so I already have the Dragonstone that hes looking for. And I know people have already posting these questions before, and none of them helped me out. And there was also a lot of confusion as to what happened. So I'm just going to lay this out as simply as possible.

 

I walk up to dragonsreach with the dragonstone, I go inside and Iraleth approaches me and says you cant talk to the jarl and then I say That I have news about helgan and shes all like why didn't you say so? So then I go up to the jarl and he thanks me for the info, and then sends iraleth to send guards to riverwood. then he gives me a gift, and says that Farengar might have a job for me. So we we walk over to him and he tells me that he wants me to go to Bleak Falls Barrow to get him the dragon stone. To which I say that I already have it, and then I give it to him, and hes all like great thank you! And says the Jarl has a reward for me. Then dialoge ends, and the notification "Quest completed: Bleak Falls Barrow" appears on the screen. [queue Iraleth] .... [iraleth?] .... annnnd shes nowhere to be found. Nothing happens. Nothing what-so-ever.

 

And when I go talk to the jarl (standing at the war table upstairs) all he has to say is the normal stuff, same with farengar. now, NOTE: That when iraleth leaves to get the guards she walks (painfully slowly) to the front gate, talks to a guard, then walks back up, through the dungon, then into the great hall, and stands at the left of the throne. At no point does she fall into the floor or get killed somehow walking there and back.

 

I've been working on this for five hours now, trying everything that I could possibly think of. So heres a list of everything that I can remember doing:

 

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Every variation of the setstage resetquest completequest of any stage for the bleak falls quest, dragon rising quest, and the original golden claw.

 

I've tried force dropping the dragonstone, so that when he asks me to go get it, I don't have it, and the marker points to it on the floor, when I talk to him after I pick it up (left building, then re-entered) he acted as if I went there and back as he asked. still nothing.

 

I've retried a earlier save.

 

note: This is my eighth character so far, never had this problem before. and it persists when starting a new character. Just tried it.

 

The name of the command slips my mind, but it was one of the moveto commands, where the player moves to the npc. and it teleported me to the place next to the throne, with no one there.

 

I tried summoning her to me. (and I made sure it wasn't the clone npc command which brings a copy of them to you) and then nothing happened. BUT when I did this command, and THEN the previous one. I would be teleported to the place where I just was, and not the throne.

 

Also tried enabling and disabling her (I used the PRID to get a lock) and that did make her appear! But only with normal dialogue.

 

recycleactor does nothing.

 

and I saw somewhere that doing a coc riverwood then coc whiterun fixes it, but I have nothing.

 

And finally I have disabled ALL of my mods. and the problem persisted. same with SKSE on, and off.

 

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And going along with the mod thing... Let me get this strait, I love mods! Mostly just textures and sounds and all that. I'm not a guy who has a billion different armor mods or anything. But I've attached a screenshot of my mods, both the Mod manager, and steam workshop.

 

Workshop: http://bit.ly/X6sVPC

Nexus: http://bit.ly/X6t2uk

 

Yes, I know I'm crazy.

 

But the shortened version of things that would potentially be the problem would be:

 

Skyre

Skyui

open cities

Immersive patrols

Rangers Armor Leather Replacement (that's what she wears)

skyre - reprocesser (I put this here because I'm still not exactly sure what it does)

Wars in skyrim IV

dawnguard/hearthfire

unofficial item/skyrim/hearthfire/dawnguard patch

 

And that's about it.

 

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and there is no way I'm dumping this character, I've just come back to skyrim after a long wait and I've started a new character to immerse myself again. and ive become rather attached to this guy.

 

is there ANYTHING that anyone can think of?? Is there some sort of brilliant scheme to magically make this work?? I'm desperate over here... Not being capable of fixing this is killing me!

 

Please? Anyone? Bueler?

 

 

 

{also on a side note, if I'm forced to reinstall. what will happen with my mods? would I have to go and reinstall them? or will they be totally unaffected?}

[gamefever]

Wars in skyrim, I can't even find it on nexus, which is starnge.

 

But off the top of my head I bet if the mod author looked at your list of installed mods he'd wince seroiusly. Your set up is way to much. You need to cut way back, and next time take the time to download Wrye Bash to make a nice patch.

 

The pictures of your load order and background mods are tiny and hard to see also. You could have ripped the list from C:\Users\Yourname\Local\Appdata\Skyrim\Loadorder.INI but of course you'd have to unhide that file folder.

 

WIS was pulled by the author I believe becuase it was unstable, and he planned a total rewrite from the ground up so it may be some time before we ever see it again.

More over the one you have you likely got off Steam which would likely be a stolen mod, as in the mod author was not the guy that posted it there. I could be wrong. Steam might not even give mod authors the control to remove their own content for all I know about Steam Workshop.

 

There are likely a good deal of other conflicting mods but hey new ppl tonght have not taken me seropiusly so I'm off to Skyrim then bed.

[ryegauvin]

The wars in skyrim is the original deal, I got it off of the nexus a long while back. And it never gave me any trouble before, why get rid of it? Also I know my list is too much, but nothing conflicts, (and at least before I activated/deactivated them all) Ive made sure of that. And my game is totally stable, I don't have CTD or missing people or quests. The only thing odd is that one in ten bandits doesn't spawn with a weapon.

 

But even without mods, I still can't manage to make the quest continue. Which means I'll never be dragonborn, and alduin will conquer Tamriel.

[gamefever]

Just becuase nothing conflicts does not mean your game will be stable.

 

It's like this you, me, everbody, we have a quatae that we can't see there's a haed cap a ceiling of how many scripted mods we can run on our game at any given time.

 

Exceed that limit and Blam crash city.

 

 

More over no just no,

You have a lot of BETA mods, what on earth does BETA mean to you? I'm not trying to be mean or harsh I'm being realistic. BETA is not a finished product, its play at your own peril.

 

A lot of your stuff I garantee if I spent time hunting it down would work pre 1.8 but not currently.

 

You also have a lot of common reduncies in your load order that many newer modders have such as 3 cloaks esp's when you should have only 1.

You have 3 WIS esp's only should have one loaded.

Killmove Plus which worked pre 1.8

Now we're using Dance Of Death becuase that's what works with 1.8 now

 

There's several more problems and redunancies and well dude I've got blown off and head bit off for pointing out errors tonight.

 

Edit

No idea your computer could be different but you have a ton I mean a ton of mods there.

The thing is that starting up a new game and haveing it run stable with a heavy order is really decieving becuase a lot of scripted mods wont start until you use an activator, that starts the scripts so the next thing you know blam your game stops working.

 

Also I think most ppl are useing Frostfall not Hyperthermia, that's just of the top of my head.

Edited January 28, 2013 by gamefever

[ryegauvin]

Alright alright! I get it, I get it... I should've taken the extra hour to go over my mods and make sure they were all perfect and fine and not setting the load order to be in alphabetical order because that's how I clicked them on the list. I was already stressed out so I just decided to make this post, then go to bed, and deal with all the other s*** later. And yes, I know, it IS messed up right now. But is anyone going to help, or just tell me I should be less impatient?

 

But thank you for the killmove +, that wasn't supposed to be there. And I'll check out frostfall sometime later.

[ryegauvin]

UPDATE: Fixed it... Did a reinstall after running out of ideas for a second time. And that did not work. So I did a mod housecleaning to diable any discrepancies, and a bunch of stuff that I liked, but not enough to make the cut! And it worked! WOO!

 

... But now I have a problem where I was able to kill the dragon with my skyforge yari in less that 45 seconds. How in the hell did Bethesda think that these dragons were good enough?! I mean... They enslaved all mortal races for centuries! And now they can be killed by a group of five bandits without any casualties? Noooo... Lame....

 

UPDATE2: HOLY CRAP MAN! I really -NEED- to spend more time on the nexus! Frostfall ROCKS! Like, f*** yeah man! Thanks gamefever! You've made my game 9000% percent better! (with 100% less CTD's!)

 

And I would also like to apologize for being an ass. I was kinda pissed off by it all. You're on the technical support right now, so I have a feeling you know what I mean.