Game crashes whenever I approach a city

[noahtacular]

I don't know what is causing it, but it is game breaking. Anyone have a solution?

[Fluffybunnyjin]

I don't know what is causing it, but it is game breaking. Anyone have a solution?

same, cant even start a new character as Helgen crshes, sometimes when I leave a building it happens too. started after I got DB. Thought it was conflicting with a mod, but unable to tell which one. Use buss, current skse, did a TES5Edit clean too. New to modding, but have 80 mods, and no two mods for the same thing so not quite sure whats going on. I'll keep an eye on this thread and add any relevant info that smarter people then I ask for.

[aoxer]

Both of you should list your mod order. Any chance any of those mods is Open Cities Skyrim?

[Fluffybunnyjin]

Both of you should list your mod order. Any chance any of those mods is Open Cities Skyrim?

ugh, wish there was an easier way to cut and paste this, but here goes. PS no I don't use open cities:

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

Dragonborn.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

SPIKE.esm

WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

Clanking Armor.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

Birds.esp

skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp

Footprints.esp

IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp

Ket_3DLoadscreens.esp

Ket_PictureLoadscreens.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp

1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

mm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedVampireRace.esp

MM_BeluaSangunaireRevisited.esp

mm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedDialogueFixes.esp

mm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedLootTables.esp

mm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedRefuge.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

quest into the depths.esp

AchieveThat.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

Headtracking.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp

UnreadBooksGlow.esp

Unique Region Names.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

Realistic Lighting.esp

Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp

Predator Vision.esp

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp

Duel - Combat Realism.esp

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

Dodge Mod.esp

The Dance of Death.esp

Crimson Tide - Blood.esp

ABT - Loot Arrows +50%.esp

ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +100%.esp

ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +100%.esp

ABT - Merchants Arrows +100%.esp

ABT - Recover +50% Arrows and Bolts.esp

Sneak Tools.esp

Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp

Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

mjhKhajiitSpeak.esp

mjhKhajiitSpeakDLC - Dawnguard.esp

PC Exclusive Animation Path - Argonian.esp

PC Exclusive Animation Path - Breton.esp

PC Exclusive Animation Path - DarkElf.esp

PC Exclusive Animation Path - HighElf.esp

PC Exclusive Animation Path - Imperial.esp

PC Exclusive Animation Path - Khajiit.esp

PC Exclusive Animation Path - Nord.esp

PC Exclusive Animation Path - ORC.esp

PC Exclusive Animation Path - RedGuard.esp

PC Exclusive Animation Path - WoodElf.esp

PC Exclusive Animation Path - 0- Main.esp

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

getSnowy.esp

RealisticWaterTextures.esp

GreenWaterFixForWATER.esp

BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

SKSE_Athletics.esp

mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - NPC Bartering.esp

mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - Convenient Horses.esp

[Fluffybunnyjin]

A few of these are unclicked though: shoot I somehow cant see any boxes in my plug in page now. wtf.. >< well, the realistic lighting ones were definately diasble, idk what happened now though. arg. Hate being a technonoob.

 

Edit, oh yeah the Khajiit and argonian pc exclusive path thingies were unclicked so those two races sneak and sprint on all fours. love that mod. KISS i believe it was called.

 

 

 

Ok, ones not checked: realistic lighting and patcher for it, as well as green water fix (didn't fix my inability to see in Riften waters, at all, just blank green in there) and the ones stated above. someone else in another thread mentioned they fixed their issues by unckecking update.esm when they don't have new mods to add, but I'm unsure if that has anything to do with my issue.

Edited February 9, 2013 by Fluffybunnyjin

[Fluffybunnyjin]

A few of these are unclicked though: shoot I somehow cant see any boxes in my plug in page now. wtf.. >< well, the realistic lighting ones were definately diasble, idk what happened now though. arg. Hate being a technonoob.

 

Edit, oh yeah the Khajiit and argonian pc exclusive path thingies were unclicked so those two races sneak and sprint on all fours. love that mod. KISS i believe it was called.

 

 

 

Ok, ones not checked: realistic lighting and patcher for it, as well as green water fix (didn't fix my inability to see in Riften waters, at all, just blank green in there) and the ones stated above. someone else in another thread mentioned they fixed their issues by unckecking update.esm when they don't have new mods to add, but I'm unsure if that has anything to do with my issue.

Hope this info helps. I'm not sure its related but i crash a lot less when I do not have update.esm checked. I still crash occasionally, but not as often. Still cannot load helgen in the tutorial etc.

Edited February 9, 2013 by Fluffybunnyjin

[Fluffybunnyjin]

A few of these are unclicked though: shoot I somehow cant see any boxes in my plug in page now. wtf.. >< well, the realistic lighting ones were definately diasble, idk what happened now though. arg. Hate being a technonoob.

 

Edit, oh yeah the Khajiit and argonian pc exclusive path thingies were unclicked so those two races sneak and sprint on all fours. love that mod. KISS i believe it was called.

 

 

 

Ok, ones not checked: realistic lighting and patcher for it, as well as green water fix (didn't fix my inability to see in Riften waters, at all, just blank green in there) and the ones stated above. someone else in another thread mentioned they fixed their issues by unckecking update.esm when they don't have new mods to add, but I'm unsure if that has anything to do with my issue.

Hope this info helps. I'm not sure its related but i crash a lot less when I do not have update.esm checked. I still crash occasionally, but not as often. Still cannot load helgen in the tutorial etc.

Really hoping someone much smarter then I (doesn't take much when it comes to this stuff, i've only been modding for about 2 weeks and im sure it shows) can help.

[ripple]

Can you post your BOSS log instead (with the messages)? Include the list of mods not recognized by BOSS if one is generated. Enclose both in spoiler tags so they don't clutter the screen.

 

Also, do you CTD when you approach every city, or just certain ones (which)? What happens when you fast travel? Are there any other patterns to the CTDs (with followers, with a particular follower, while riding, only on foot, etc.)?

Edited February 10, 2013 by ripple

[Fluffybunnyjin]

Can you post your BOSS log instead (with the messages)? Include the list of mods not recognized by BOSS if one is generated. Enclose both in spoiler tags so they don't clutter the screen.

 

Also, do you CTD when you approach every city, or just certain ones (which)? What happens when you fast travel? Are there any other patterns to the CTDs (with followers, with a particular follower, while riding, only on foot, etc.)?

Will attempt to do so

 

 

 

 

Summary

 

Recognised (or sorted by user rules) 83

Unrecognised 3

Inactive 5

All 86

Plugin Message Type Count

Warning 4

Error 0

All 21

Your masterlist is already at the latest revision (r6415; 2013-02-11). No update necessary.

 

 

Recognized plug in Tab:

 

These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

 

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm Active

Dawnguard.esm Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Dragonborn.esm Active

ApachiiHair.esm Active

SPIKE.esm Active

HighResTexturePack01.esp Active

HighResTexturePack02.esp Active

HighResTexturePack03.esp Active

Better Dynamic Snow.esp Active

Clanking Armor.esp Active

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active

Birds.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 376 ITM, 2 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active

ValsCraftingMeltdownAlpha.esp Active

Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

Convenient Horses.esp Active

DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp Active

Note: Make sure you have not switched DoF off in your ini file. If you don't see any effect, open you Skyrimprefs.ini and look for 'bDoDepthOfField'. Make sure it is set to 1.

Footprints.esp Active

IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp Active

Ket_3DLoadscreens.esp Active

Ket_PictureLoadscreens.esp Active

SkyUI.esp Active

iHUD.esp Active

BlackSacramentArmor.esp Active

1nivWICCloaks.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp Active

Warning: Use only one WICCloaks esp.

1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp Active

Warning: Use only one WICCloaks esp.

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

mm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedVampireRace.esp Active

MM_BeluaSangunaireRevisited.esp Active

mm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedDialogueFixes.esp Active

mm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedLootTables.esp Active

mm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedRefuge.esp Active

DeadlyDragons.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

quest into the depths.esp Active

AchieveThat.esp Active

BetterQuestObjectives.esp Active

Headtracking.esp Active

Immersive Weapons.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp Active

Note: Uninstall old version of Skyrim Flora Overhaul if using SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp

UnreadBooksGlow.esp Active

Unique Region Names.esp Active

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp Active

Realistic Lighting.esp

Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp Active

Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.

Predator Vision.esp Active

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Active

Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp Active

Duel - Combat Realism.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp Active

Note: Use only one Dual Wield Parrying*.esp

Dodge Mod.esp Active

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp Active

Crimson Tide - Blood.esp Active

ABT - Loot Arrows +50%.esp Active

ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +100%.esp Active

ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +100%.esp Active

ABT - Merchants Arrows +100%.esp Active

ABT - Recover +50% Arrows and Bolts.esp Active

Sneak Tools.esp Active

Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp Active

Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp Active

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp Active

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active

Warning: UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp required to work properly with Dawnguard (Official Bethesda DLC)

Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.

mjhKhajiitSpeak.esp Active

Note: This mod overwrites all dialogue enable only when playing Khajiit.

mjhKhajiitSpeakDLC - Dawnguard.esp Active

Note: This mod overwrites all dialogue enable only when playing Khajiit.

PC Exclusive Animation Path - Argonian.esp

PC Exclusive Animation Path - Breton.esp Active

PC Exclusive Animation Path - DarkElf.esp Active

PC Exclusive Animation Path - HighElf.esp Active

PC Exclusive Animation Path - Imperial.esp Active

PC Exclusive Animation Path - Khajiit.esp

PC Exclusive Animation Path - Nord.esp Active

PC Exclusive Animation Path - ORC.esp Active

PC Exclusive Animation Path - RedGuard.esp Active

PC Exclusive Animation Path - WoodElf.esp Active

PC Exclusive Animation Path - 0- Main.esp Active

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp Active

getSnowy.esp Active

RealisticWaterTextures.esp Active

Note: Old. Use WATER mod instead.

GreenWaterFixForWATER.esp

Note: Obsolete. Update to latest version.

BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp Active

 

Unrecognized plugin tab:

 

The following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed.

 

SKSE_Athletics.esp Active

mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - NPC Bartering.esp Active

mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - Convenient Horses.esp Active

 

[ripple]

1)

ValsCraftingMeltdownAlpha.esp Active

Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

 

Don't use this mod. It's buggy even with the updated fix patch. Use something like 'Ars Metallica' instead.

 

2)

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active

Warning: UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp required to work properly with Dawnguard (Official Bethesda DLC)

 

Since you have the DG DLC, go download the UFO DG plugin.

 

3)

RealisticWaterTextures.esp Active

Note: Old. Use WATER mod instead.

GreenWaterFixForWATER.esp

Note: Obsolete. Update to latest version.

 

4) It's recommend that you download the unofficial patch for the base game and the DLCs you have (DG and DB).

 

5) This is unrelated to your CTDs, but since you are using a number of 'give more stuff to NPCs' mods like cloaks, immersive armour, immersive weapons, etc., you'll need to download Wrye Bash and generate a Bashed Patch to merge the conflicting leveled lists edits, so the items from all those mods will appear properly on respawning MOBs.

 

6) The plugins not recognized by BOSS go to the end of the load order after you run BOSS. Their load order position need to be arranged manually and absolutely do not simply allow them to load after the other mod because if they contain conflicting records, they will override changes made by other mods loaded earlier. The best way to handle this is to use TES5Edit to check the esp's and see if these unrecognized plugins actually conflict with the other plugins in your load order. If they do, you'll have to decide where they should go based on who you think should 'win' the contest of conflicting records. If they don't conflict with other plugins, then you can load them anywhere above your compatibility patches (e.g. the Bashed Patch). Alternatively, you can disable those plugins for now, and do the esp checking after you've fixed the CTD issues, so you won't have to deal with too many issues at once.

 

You didn't answer my questions about your CTD patterns?