Ares1 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I'm sure there are other forum topics on this, but none of them seem to apply to the type of freezing I'm getting (as least the ones I saw). So I appear to freeze or CTD at seemingly random times in the game, at first I though it was in exteriors only but I have encountered it in interiors as well. I enables logging and this is the result: [AT_MainQST12 (69004E18)].AT_MainQST12Script.OnUpdate() - "AT_MainQST12Script.psc" Line 32 [02/11/2013 - 03:58:13PM] VM is freezing... [02/11/2013 - 03:58:13PM] VM is frozen It appears that the script MainQST12Script is causing the issues (appears to be the freeze source on all the logs I have at the moment. As for what mod or dlc adds this I'm not certain (skyrim, dawnguard, hearthfire, dragonborn do not contain this script) So that makes this a mod problem(at least as far as I can see) Here is my current load order: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm Ambience Music Overhaul - with vanilla music.esm CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm JSwords.esm Ket_ARMONIZER_v2.esm Omegared99-Compilation.esm SPIKE.esm WinterholdDestruction.esm NewStyleEyes.esm Shadow Striping Fix.esp Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp MoreSnowWindyand75percentLessView.esp Better Dynamic Snow.esp Rainbows.esp Supreme Fog.esp Improved Combat Sounds v2.1.esp LIAT - Sounds.esp Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp Thundering Shouts.esp realrainCoT.esp MintyLightningMod.esp Ambience Music Overhaul - Addon - with vanilla music -.esp Ambience Music Overhaul - Combat - with vanilla music.esp Ambience Music Overhaul - Interiors and Special - with vanilla music.esp Dawn_addon_part3.esp Dawn_addon_part1.esp Dawn_addon_part2.esp Weapons and Armor fixes.esp Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp AK- Placeable Statics.esp Birds.esp Birdsofskyrim.esp bladesfactionfix.esp Bring Out Your Dead.esp Carriage1.esp Catsofskyrim.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Dogsofskyrim.esp DSpSoB.esp LIAT - NPCs.esp MomoDash.esp Morrowind Soul Gems.esp People Have Torches.esp SHARPE Craftsmanship - Made to Order.esp skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp SkyrimLive.esp SMDropLitTorch.esp BeastBanditsV1.esp Convenient Horses.esp Destructible_bottles.esp Character Creation Overhaul.esp Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp Footprints.esp Ket_3DLoadscreens.esp + MATHERIAN_VIKING_SHIELDS_SET +.esp Bucklers-Complete.esp Cloaks.esp DBShreddedTriss.esp DCSorceress.esp DHuntress.esp DPArmor.esp Fountain Guard Armor MATY743.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Insanity's Chrysamere.esp Insanity's Dragonbane.esp Insanity's Goldbrand.esp Insanity's Kahvozein Fang.esp Insanity's Ice Blade of the Monarch.esp Insanity's Pale Blade.esp Insanity's Sorrow.esp Insanity's Umbra Sword.esp Insanity's Zatoichi.esp JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp LadyKdCirclets.esp NobleFemaleClothes.esp Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp Omegared99-Compilation-NPC Plugin.esp Remodeled Armor.esp Sekirei.esp Scarves! Skyrim Edition!.esp Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp TCOSS.esp Tonas Oblivion Scarves.esp TrissArmorRetextured.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp betterriften.esp jkjsenhancedhotpools.esp Radiance.esp SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp WhiterunFortified.esp WhiterunREVISION.esp RRBetterWhiterunInt.esp AchieveThat.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Normal Weight).esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Normal Weight).esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp BlockSparkles.esp CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp DynamicMerchants.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Headtracking.esp Ket_ARMONIZER_LListsNPC.esp Lawrens RNG Guards.esp Proper Aiming.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp Realistic Lighting.esp Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities & Town Interiors.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - 3.5 Weathers.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - 3.5 Dawnguard Weathers.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons&Interiors.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Ancient Spells.esp CandlelightToggle10.esp Phenderix's Magic Evolved - Cleaned - No Perks.esp Phenderix's Magic Evolved - Cleaned.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp FNISspells.esp CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp SkyRe_Main.esp SkyRe_StandingStones.esp SkyRe_Plugin_ImmersiveArmor_5.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp DynamicallyIncreasedWalkSpeed.esp See YourSelf drink and eat.esp LovelyHairstyles.esp MacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.esp MTOH.esp 3DNPC.esp Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp moveitLWT.esp CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp Extended Slider Colors.esp SkyRe_Races.esp You Are Over-encumbered.esp getSnowy.esp WATER.esp GreenWaterFixForWATER.esp minemapmarkers.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp ReProccer.esp Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp almalexia regalia.esp daowk-starfanggreatsword.esp dark messiah armor pack.esp Dead Body Collision.esp new clothes.esp NewmillerExperimLD.esp Disable Fast Travel DAWNGUARD.esp divine_intervention.esp Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Texture 3.esp warburg's 3d paper world map - dawnguard.esp As well as my system specs (most likely won't matter) Summary Operating System MS Windows 64-bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 945 27 °C Deneb 45nm Technology RAM 8.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 401MHz (5-5-5-18) Motherboard ASUSTeK Computer INC. M4A785-M (AM2) Graphics Generic Non-PnP Monitor @ 1280x1024 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti Hard Drives 63GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG SSD 830 Series ATA Device (SATA) 1465GB Western Digital WDC WD1501FASS-00W2B0 ATA Device (SATA) 38 °C Optical Drives ATAPI iHAS424 B ATA Device Audio High Definition Audio Device hopefully I can get some light shed on this issue. Any and all help is appriciated (if you need more info just ask). As for me I'll continue to try and track down the script and what mod adds it in the creation kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korun Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 it is simply the end of your log, it doesn't mean nothing, make a test, go in game and save, you'll see Vm is freezing, frozen then, game is saving nothing else when your game freeze or ctd, you have a error msg? or just freeze on loot, looking at something ? do you have un install a mod recently, if yes, was it scripted?, if yes, do you have stopped the script before uninstall?for Convéniant Horse ( ex.for purpose, it's very popular) you must stop the quest by "stopCHquest" and then uninstall the mod, if not, you can have save bloating or crashes, because CH script still run in the game^^ @@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares1 Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 good point but these are the last messages logged fight before the game crashes. Also I get no error message the game either locks completely up (music still plays) or just closes to desktop... as far as uninstalling mods recently not anything ultimately important (skyrim simple save system and bigger trees being one of the removed mods) but I've actually built up my mod list as this was a fresh install of the game and I think my character was started around the same time... I can always start a new game and see if the effect persists, if not I'll be more than happy to restart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korun Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 humm, looks familiar, i have many playtrought running, but one of my last was a Heavily moded one, many textures and a lot of scripted mods, i know i had 1/10 chance to make it work but for fun :P new skeleton (xp32) anims, Fnis, CH, frostfall, UFO, W & Cold, combat overhaul etc... 30 lvl and...395 "real" saves no F5 :P, i wasn't able to go from Whiterun to Solitude without ctd, spent a week to make the good load order, merge, patching and i was able to make one dungeon Hiilgrund tombs, then ctd again.it was always like you, just stop, music in background, or back to W7, so i stop this mess and make a new vanilla profile, still have ton of texture, just the essential scripted one, and i enjoy my ranger for hours without any problem :)@@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares1 Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 hmm. either way I'm starting a new game and I'm optimizing my load order and trying to cut back on the bulk and making sure they're all up to date. I'll then rerun boss and the fnis generator then try again. Guess we'll see ^.^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korun Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 just one last point, are all the mods up to date for the last DLC? i'm not sure all of them are patched, it's too early@@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares1 Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 (edited) Most looked that way. But I'll double check. Also that script from earlier wasn't in any of my active mods so I believe I had orphaned scripts. But we'll find out after I get everything in order and try a new game Edited February 12, 2013 by Ares1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares1 Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 Unfortunetly I still freeze, and the logs aren't pointing to any source now so I'm stuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 While the payprus log can sometimes yield useful insights about bugs and stability issues, it's not a 'crash log' and should not be read as such. The fact you have a number of plugins loading after your compatibility patches (e.g. the ReProccer) suggests that plugins not recognized by BOSS may be causing or at least contributing to the instability of your load order. Can you replace your load order with a BOSS log (with the messages)? Include the list of plugins not recognized by BOSS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares1 Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 (edited) Sure no problem ^.^there are only a couple unrecognized plugins but there is always a chance *edit*I did notice that birds.esp is incompatible with hearthfire. Whether or not this is the source I'll fix this (something that was buried in the BOSS log <p>Removed Claralux as it is no longer supported</p> <p>birds and flocks updated to hearthfire BOSS Log(Updated for changes): These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action. Update.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 73 ITM, 1 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Dawnguard.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 607 ITM, 82 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 171 ITM, 11 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Dragonborn.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 57 ITM, 8 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.ClimatesOfTamriel.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}MoreSnowWindyand75percentLessView.esp ActiveIncompatible with: All lighting mods.Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Better Dynamic Snow.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 6 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Supreme Fog.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.LIAT - Sounds.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 43 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}BirdsHFclean.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Birdsofskyrim.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 31 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.bladesfactionfix.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.DSpSoB.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Requires: Neovalen Race Compatibility.espNote: Make sure you use Dawnguard version.LIAT - NPCs.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}Destructible_bottles.esp ActiveNote: Obsolete. Update to latest version.DHuntress.esp ActiveRequires: CBBE female body.hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Deactivate}} and remove [Relev]Insanity's Sorrow.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Insanity's Umbra Sword.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Omegared99-Compilation-NPC Plugin.esp ActiveWarning: File is now obsolete. See optional files to update.Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)TCOSS.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 0 ITM, 24 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Ket_ARMONIZER_LListsNPC.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp ActiveRequires: Dawnguard Compatibility_Patch.ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp ActiveIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting OverhauldD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp ActiveNote: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.Ancient Spells.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Phenderix's Magic Evolved - Cleaned - No Perks.esp ActiveNote: Use only one of Phenderix's Magic Evolved espSkyRe_Main.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here.Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:Note: [Actor]Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000Note: [Combat]Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0SkyRe_Plugin_ImmersiveArmor_5.esp ActiveNote: Remember not to load (or to simply delete) hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espNote: Remember to install the original mod before activating a patch or skyrim will crash when it can't find the supporting files.SkyRe_Races.esp ActiveIncompatible with: DSpSoB.espWATER Plants.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.GreenWaterFixForWATER.esp ActiveNote: Obsolete. Update to latest version.RaceMenuPlugin.esp ActiveNote: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author. Unrecognized plugins: NewStyleEyes.esm ActiveAcquisitive Soul Gems.esp Activemarkarthtuneup.espalmalexia regalia.esp Activedaowk-starfanggreatsword.esp Activedark messiah armor pack.esp ActiveDead Body Collision.esp ActiveNewmillerExperimLD.esp Activedivine_intervention.esp Active Edited February 12, 2013 by Ares1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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