NexusKnight Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I installed C5Kev's Sexy Nordic Armor CBBE SE for my follower but armor was invisible after crafting. Then I installed COCO's Lacebody to cover nudity and got both armor and lingerie ATST...very cool! But then I installed Nordic Carved Bikini CBBE HDT Conversion mod to see if I could make C5Kev's a replacer. Didn't go well...don't remember if I crashed or couldn't load. Anyway, I uninstalled all three mods and now my game saves won't load at all. Loot was telling me I was missing patches, so I d'led/installed the patches. SKSE was out of date and I updated that only to find my game wouldn't start at all! I reverted back to old one and game now starts up to save load then CTD. Now, I've done so many changes to my game that I don't know if I've made it better or worse - it still won't load a save. FI, after the loading option, there are loading screens 'til I hear the familiar hissing sound of my save being accessed, then crash! I've tried earlier saves and the same thing. Now, I don't have a clue what the problem is. Anyone else have a suggestion? BTW...I can start a new game but can't use any of my existing saves. WryeBash shows them as orange 'cause of recent uninstall...but all the masters are present. OTHER THINGS I'VE DONE: I fixed all LOOT's objections.....NO CHANGEI updated FNIS generator.....NO CHANGEI updated SKSE64.....CRASH ON STARTI checked integrity of game cache.....14 missing files.....RE-INSTALLED - NO CHANGEI re-cleaned DLC's & others w/ SSEEdit.....NO CHANGEI updated various important mods.....NO CHANGEManually removed remnants of uninstalled C5Kev's & Nordic Armour files Vortex didn't remove.....NO CHANGEGave up and came here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saurusmaximus Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 If your game is up to date, installing the latest SKSE shouldn't cause any issues, my suggestion there is to delete all of the SKSE files in your main Skyrim directory and start over. Then, make sure all mods that have an SKSE plugin will play with the latest version of SKSE. Being that your issues seem to revolve around body/armor mods, I'm guessing you need to update your physics package to the latest and greatest as well. Just so I understand, none of your saves will load, even saves from before you messed around with the armor mods? Possible dumb question, but have you tried rebooting your computer? Orange saves in Wrye just mean the load order changed, which usually isn't a problem, red on the other hand means mods are missing. Is it possible something got overwritten when you were doing all of that and now there is a hidden conflict somewhere? I don't use Vortex, so I'm not sure how it handles overwrites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NexusKnight Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) Thanks for the quick response saurus.You know...IDK...game's up to date but updating SKSE64 causes Skyrim to crash at start up. Right now, the only thing I can think of doing is rebuilding my game on a new SSD system I just bought. Installing everything the same and seeing if my saves load then. If not, I'm not entirely against starting a new game...but I am lvl 42...u know what I mean? The new setup is just a test right now and I don't see how it wouldn't work if I don't botch the install somehow. I'm updating everything too, which should work toward a more stable game...and fact is, I did find a lot of mistakes in my current install, like absence of patches, redundant mods and load order mistakes. Just hoping to get everything right this time in my new game and everything works. Then I'll be good to go on a brand new system. Only time will tell. My Current Load Order (Corrected): <sorry - can't get spoiler's to work> <spoiler> 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 7 7 SexLab.esm 8 8 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm 9 9 3DNPC.esp 10 a Night Eye Overhaul.esm 11 b Campfire.esm 12 c FISS.esp 13 d EFFCore.esm 14 e RaceCompatibility.esm 15 f SkyUI_SE.esp 16 10 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 17 11 WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp 18 12 WARZONES - SSE - DLC - Assault Attack.esp 19 13 RaceMenu.esp 20 14 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 21 15 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 22 16 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 23 17 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 24 18 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 25 19 Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 26 1a JKs Skyrim.esp 27 1b Cutting Room Floor.esp 28 1c RealisticRoomRental.esp 29 1d Blues Skyrim.esp 30 1e JKs Skyrim_Dawn of Skyrim_Patch.esp 31 1f Solitude Expansion.esp 32 20 Helgen Reborn.esp 33 21 OBIS SE.esp 34 22 AI Overhaul.esp 35 23 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 36 24 BHTNF_Eli.esp 37 25 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp 38 26 skyBirds_SSE.esp 39 27 BirdsOfSkyrim_SSE.esp 40 28 LKVM by Nimee - Part I_ SE.esp 41 29 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp254 FE 0 RRR - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp 42 2a EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp 43 2b More idle markers.esp254 FE 1 3DNPC - CRF Patch.esp 44 2c Combat Evolved.esp 45 2d ZIA_Complete Pack.esp 46 2e LKVM by Nimee - Part II_SE.esp 47 2f Artifacts.esp254 FE 2 DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp254 FE 3 DBM_SolitudeExpansion_Patch.esp 48 30 TacticalValtheim.esp 49 31 Trees in Cities.esp254 FE 4 RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp254 FE 5 Qw_3DNPC_USSEP Patch.esp254 FE 6 DBM_JKSkyrim_DawnOfSkyrimDC_Patch.esp 50 32 Frostfall.esp254 FE 7 Solitude Expansion Navmesh Fixes.esp 51 33 Skyshards.esp254 FE 8 Qw_WACCF_CRF Patch.esp 52 34 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 53 35 Drinking Fountains of Skyrim for SSE.esp254 FE 9 DBM_CRF_Patch.esp 54 36 notice board.esp254 FE a JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp 55 37 Missives.esp254 FE b DBM_NoticeBoard_Patch.esp254 FE c 3DNPC - AI Overhaul Patch.esp254 FE d BHUNP3BBB.esp 56 38 RaceMenuMorphsBHUNP.esp 57 39 RaceMenuHH.esp254 FE e 3BBB.esp 58 3a Toccata as Elisif.esp 59 3b CBBE.esp 60 3c Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 61 3d Night Eye Overhaul.esp 62 3e NEO Radial Blur + Tint 7.esp 63 3f NEO Longer Lasting Potions.esp 64 40 NEO Longer Lasting Scrolls.esp 65 41 NEO Persistent Spell.esp254 FE f KSWigsSMP.esp254 FE 10 KSHairdosSMP.esp254 FE 11 DBM_OBIS_Patch.esp 66 42 KS Hairdo's.esp 67 43 EffDistancefix.esp 68 44 Bathing in Skyrim - Realistic Room Rental.esp 69 45 TrueBrowsNingheimPatch.esp 70 46 3DNPC_FrogCustom_Zora.esp 71 47 Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp 72 48 PumpingIron.esp 73 49 AMatterOfTime.esp 74 4a EMHearthfireMoveKidsfix.esp 75 4b AHZmoreHUD.esp 76 4c BikiniAscendVolume1.esp 77 4d atkspdmod.esp 78 4e Kate.esp 79 4f EEO CRF patch.esp 80 50 TKAA.esp 81 51 Helgen Reborn TKAA Patch.esp254 FE 12 Qw_AIOverhaul_CRF Patch.esp 82 52 EEO OBIS SE patch.esp 83 53 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 84 54 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 85 55 HearthfireMultiKid TKAA Patch.esp254 FE 13 DBM_SkyTEST_Patch.esp 86 56 Dawn of Skyrim RND Patch.esp 87 57 LKVM_Frostfall.esp 88 58 LKVM_LT02.esp 89 59 Toccata.esp 90 5a DX Necromancer Robes.esp254 FE 14 DBM_WACCF_Patch.esp254 FE 15 ZIA_WACCF_Patch.esp254 FE 16 DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp 91 5b PAN_FollowerPack1.esp 92 5c OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp LazyTools.esp254 FE 17 DBM_TreesinCities_Patch.esp 93 5d TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp 94 5e AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp 95 5f Black Widow Outfit.esp254 FE 18 DBM_AetheriumWeapons_Patch.esp254 FE 19 DBM_ZimsThaneWeapons_Patch.esp254 FE 1a DBM_ArtifactsofSkyrim_Patch.esp 96 60 DeadlyDragons.esp 97 61 DeadlyCombat.esp 98 62 FNISSexyMove.esp254 FE 1b 3DNPCEFF.esp 99 63 EFFDialogue.esp254 FE 1c 3DNPCVO2.esp254 FE 1d 3DNPCVO1.esp100 64 LegacyoftheDragonborn TKAA Patch.esp101 65 3DNPC TKAA Patch.esp102 66 SleepTight.esp103 67 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp104 68 Cutting Room Floor TKAA Patch.esp105 69 Un-leveld nightingaleblades 03.esp106 6a icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp107 6b RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp108 6c FNIS.esp109 6d The Ningheim.esp110 6e The Ningheim - TheEyesOfBeauty.esp111 6f RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp112 70 SameWalkRunSpeedsLite.esp113 71 Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp114 72 UIExtensions.esp115 73 3DNPC_FrogCustom_Amalee.esp116 74 Rebekah.esp117 75 Bijin AIO.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp254 FE 1e Qw_BijinAIO_AIOverhaul Patch.esp254 FE 1f Qw_BijinAIO_CRF Patch.esp Bijin Wives.esp254 FE 20 D13 Faster Get up Stand up Animations.esp118 76 AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp119 77 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp254 FE 21 DeadlyCombatMCM.esp120 78 Drinking Fountains of Skyrim for SSE - RND Patch.esp254 FE 22 radiantBlocker.esp121 79 HavenBag.esp122 7a OBIS SE - NoticeBoard - Addon.esp123 7b RNAD_FF_Patch.esp124 7c RNAD_LotD_Patch.esp125 7d SkyrimSpeeds.esp126 7e SOSRaceMenu.esp127 7f XPMSE.esp128 80 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp254 FE 23 AetheriumSwordsnArmor_CCOR_Patch.esp254 FE 24 CCOR_Campfire_Patch.esp254 FE 25 DBM_CCOR_Patch.esp129 81 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp130 82 CACO ethereal_elven_overhaul Patch.esp131 83 RNAD_CACO_Patch.esp254 FE 26 CACO_USSEP_Patch.esp254 FE 27 DBM_CACO_Patch.esp254 FE 28 Bathing in Skyrim - CACO.esp254 FE 29 Qw_CACO_3DNPC Patch.esp254 FE 2a Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul_CCOR_Patch.esp132 84 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp254 FE 2b CACO_Ordinator_Patch.esp254 FE 2c CCOR_Ordinator.esp133 85 DeadlyCombat_Ordinator_Patch.esp134 86 RealisticWaterTwo.esp254 FE 2d RealisticWaterTwo - Needs Mod Patch.esp254 FE 2e Bathing in SSE - RWT.esp254 FE 2f RNAD_RWT_Patch.esp254 FE 30 JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp135 87 NAT.esp254 FE 31 NAT - Godrays.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp</spoiler> Edited September 28, 2020 by NexusKnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saurusmaximus Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Will your game start with the updated SKSE if you disable all of your mods first? I'm just wondering if you have a mod that is hanging things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NexusKnight Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 I'm half-way through installing onto my new system. Once I'm done that and tried my saves there, I'll look into your suggestion. Something I did find altered was my Skyrimprefs.ini. After I verified my game cache I had to start Launcher which renewed my prefs.ini. Corrected that with backup but no change. The enblocal.ini was altered too and fixed that but no saves load. I didn't know this but as soon as you change your resolution in the launcher it will renew your prefs.ini file, which gets changed a lot with various mod demands. Should always make a back up. Anyway, I'll keep you posted when I'm finished my new install...prolly tomo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saurusmaximus Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 When you are up and running again, look at Bethini for getting your skyrim.ini and skyrimprefs.ini setup, it also has an option to make them read-only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NexusKnight Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 Thanks saurus...for the continued support. But recently I believe I've found the source of my problem. In the course of re-installing everything again on my new system, I've encountered a new LOOT warning that is quite serious. It tells me that my patch for Realistic Room Rental Enhanced and Immersive Citizens is so badly made that it causes irreparable damage to game saves. Since the completion of my new game setup, I've found my old saves do not work. Therefore, I'm concluding that they are cooked! I have since found a suitable replacement mod for Perseid's Taverns and am testing my new install. So, I am going to start over with a better setup on a better machine, so it 'aint so bad. Thanks for all the help.....I think now we can call this thread closed (unless anyone else has anything to add) - NK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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