Relentless CTDs caused by "Adoption Scheduler"

[Moogiefluff]

Please help, I'm at my wits end. I adopted a little girl and sent her to my (only) home in Whiterun.

 

Ever since then, my Papyrus log gets absolutely spammed to hell with "adoption scheduler" warnings and errors. She never moves into the home and won't speak to me.

 

My most recent crash log ended like this:

 

[02/18/2013 - 03:45:15PM] Error: Cannot check location against a None location
stack:
    [ (00018A56)].Location.IsChild() - "<native>" Line ?
    [BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].byohrelationshipadoptionscript.PlayerLocationChanged() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionScript.psc" Line 1385
    [alias Player on quest BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.OnLocationChange() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.psc" Line 10
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:15PM] Error: Cannot call IsChild() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].byohrelationshipadoptionscript.PlayerLocationChanged() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionScript.psc" Line 1390
    [alias Player on quest BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.OnLocationChange() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.psc" Line 10
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:15PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp168"
stack:
    [BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].byohrelationshipadoptionscript.PlayerLocationChanged() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionScript.psc" Line 1390
    [alias Player on quest BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.OnLocationChange() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.psc" Line 10
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:15PM] Moving Family.
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:15PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:16PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:17PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:17PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:18PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:18PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:19PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:20PM] Error: Cannot check location against a None location
stack:
    [ (00018A56)].Location.IsChild() - "<native>" Line ?
    [BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].byohrelationshipadoptionscript.PlayerLocationChanged() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionScript.psc" Line 1389
    [alias Player on quest BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.OnLocationChange() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.psc" Line 10
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:20PM] Moving Family.
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:20PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:20PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:20PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:21PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:21PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:21PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:22PM] THE ADOPTION SCHEDULER HAS FAILED TO START.
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:22PM] THE ADOPTION SCHEDULER HAS FAILED TO START AGAIN. QUEUING EMERGENCY MOVE.
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:22PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:22PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:23PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:24PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:24PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:24PM] Moving Family.
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:25PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:25PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:26PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:26PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:26PM] THE ADOPTION SCHEDULER HAS FAILED TO START.
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:26PM] THE ADOPTION SCHEDULER HAS FAILED TO START AGAIN. QUEUING EMERGENCY MOVE.
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:26PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:27PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:27PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:28PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:29PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:29PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:30PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:31PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:31PM] THE ADOPTION SCHEDULER HAS FAILED TO START.
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:31PM] THE ADOPTION SCHEDULER HAS FAILED TO START AGAIN. QUEUING EMERGENCY MOVE.
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:45PM] Error: Cannot check location against a None location
stack:
    [ (0001F86F)].Location.IsChild() - "<native>" Line ?
    [BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].byohrelationshipadoptionscript.PlayerLocationChanged() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionScript.psc" Line 1385
    [alias Player on quest BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.OnLocationChange() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.psc" Line 10
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:45PM] Error: Cannot call IsChild() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].byohrelationshipadoptionscript.PlayerLocationChanged() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionScript.psc" Line 1390
    [alias Player on quest BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.OnLocationChange() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.psc" Line 10
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:45PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp168"
stack:
    [BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].byohrelationshipadoptionscript.PlayerLocationChanged() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionScript.psc" Line 1390
    [alias Player on quest BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.OnLocationChange() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.psc" Line 10
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:45PM] Moving Family.
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:46PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:46PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:47PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:48PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:48PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:49PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:50PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:50PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:51PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:51PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:52PM] THE ADOPTION SCHEDULER HAS FAILED TO START.
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:52PM] THE ADOPTION SCHEDULER HAS FAILED TO START AGAIN. QUEUING EMERGENCY MOVE.
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:58PM] Error: Cannot check location against a None location
stack:
    [ (00018A56)].Location.IsChild() - "<native>" Line ?
    [BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].byohrelationshipadoptionscript.PlayerLocationChanged() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionScript.psc" Line 1389
    [alias Player on quest BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.OnLocationChange() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.psc" Line 10
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:58PM] Moving Family.
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:58PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:59PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:45:59PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:00PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:00PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:01PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:02PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:02PM] Error: Cannot check location against a None location
stack:
    [ (0001F86F)].Location.IsChild() - "<native>" Line ?
    [BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].byohrelationshipadoptionscript.PlayerLocationChanged() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionScript.psc" Line 1385
    [alias Player on quest BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.OnLocationChange() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.psc" Line 10
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:02PM] Error: Cannot call IsChild() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].byohrelationshipadoptionscript.PlayerLocationChanged() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionScript.psc" Line 1390
    [alias Player on quest BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.OnLocationChange() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.psc" Line 10
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:02PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp168"
stack:
    [BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].byohrelationshipadoptionscript.PlayerLocationChanged() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionScript.psc" Line 1390
    [alias Player on quest BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)].BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.OnLocationChange() - "BYOHRelationshipAdoptionPlayerScript.psc" Line 10
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:02PM] Moving Family.
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:02PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:02PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:03PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:03PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:04PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:04PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:04PM] THE ADOPTION SCHEDULER HAS FAILED TO START.
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:04PM] THE ADOPTION SCHEDULER HAS FAILED TO START AGAIN. QUEUING EMERGENCY MOVE.
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:04PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:05PM] Error:  (000DC550): cannot enable an object with an enable state parent.
stack:
    [ (000DC550)].lvlpredatorscript.Enable() - "<native>" Line ?
    [ (000DC550)].lvlpredatorscript.OnCellLoad() - "LvlPredatorScript.psc" Line 26
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:05PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:06PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:06PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:07PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:07PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:08PM] Adoption: Waiting for Scheduler to start...
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:09PM] THE ADOPTION SCHEDULER HAS FAILED TO START.
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:09PM] THE ADOPTION SCHEDULER HAS FAILED TO START AGAIN. QUEUING EMERGENCY MOVE.
[02/18/2013 - 03:46:35PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp5"
stack:
    [ (FF0035B8)].defaultDeleteSelfOnReset.OnLoad() - "defaultDeleteSelfOnReset.psc" Line 25

 

 

Why can't I find a single other post mentioning the Adoption Scheduler? Am I really the only person in the world getting these errors? My game's heavily modded, sure, but I don't have ANY mods that touch player homes or adoption, so I don't see why any mods I have would conflict with this.

 

Mods: http://pastebin.com/jAfnViQW

 

I'm facing the prospect of losing my RP character. She's not very high level (11), but that's not the point. I've spent a lot of time with her. I've had so many awesome adventures and moments with her. But I can't play her anymore, because 5 minutes of running around outside always ends with me suddenly back to my desktop. :(

 

This is my last attempt at getting even a single reply, helpful or not. After that... bye bye, Unlucky-Destined. Maybe I should've named you something more promising...

[ripple]

Post your BOSS log instead of the load order (with the messages), include a list of plugins not recognized by BOSS if one is generated, enclose them in spoiler tags.

[Moogiefluff]

BOSS log:

 

 

• Skyrim.esm Active
• Update.esm Active
• Dawnguard.esm Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
• HearthFires.esm Active
• Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Active
• More Interactive Items.ESM Active
• More Interactive Items [Dawnguard].ESM Active
• More Interactive Items [Hearthfire].ESM Active
• SPIKE.esm Active
• Brawl Bugs CE.esp Active
• Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
• Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
• Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active
• Supreme Fog.esp Active
• Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp Active
• theFlicker.esp Active
• Weapons and Armor Fixes.esp Active
• StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active
• Dead Body Collision.esp Active
• Immersive Battles.esp Active
• Immersive Brigands.esp Active
• Immersive Dawnguard.esp Active
• Immersive Factions.esp Active
• Immersive Mercenaries.esp Active
• Immersive Patrols.esp Active
• Immersive Travelers.esp Active
• Immersive Werewolves.esp Active
• Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - RLO.esp Active
  • Note: Use only one Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One esp.
• Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp Active
• Owned.esp Active
• Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active
• SMDropLitTorch.esp Active
• xgfPferdeKarren-en.esp Active
• Convenient Horses.esp Active
• Auto Unequip Arrows.esp Active
• Footprints.esp Active
• WetandCold.esp Active
• SkyUI.esp Active
• Cloaks.esp Active
• hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
• LFArmors.esp Active
• Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp
• ERSO 03 - Mighty Dragons Unleveled.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
• ERSO 04 - Mighty Odahviing.esp Active
• ERSO 04.2 - Mighty Durnehviir.esp Active
• ERSO 05 - Dovah Holy Book.esp Active
• ERSO 06 - Wait More Time Dragon Encounter x2.0.esp Active
• ERSO 08 - RUS-00 Main plus Dawnguard.esp Active
• ERSO 09 - Vendor Trainer Quest-giver protected.esp Active
• ERSO 10 - RUS-(SIM)-Travellers and Adventurers.esp Active
• ERSO 10.02 - Adventurers and Travelers.esp Active
• ERSO 11 - RUS-(SIM)-Assassins and Thieves.esp
• ERSO 13 - MD - A Better Level Progression.esp Active
• ERSO 13.02 - Lower Skill Gain -20percent.esp Active
  • Note: Use only one ERSO 13.02 file.
• ERSO 13.03 - Higher Skill Cap 125.esp Active
  • Note: Use only one ERSO 13.03 file.
• ERSO 14 - Vendors richer and Inns more expensive.esp Active
• ERSO 14.08 - Respawn Vendor Stuff 5 days.esp Active
  • Note: Use only one ERSO 14.08 file.
• Run For Your Lives.esp Active
• When Vampires Attack.esp Active
• Headtracking.esp Active
• HelmsWithCirclets.esp
• ImmediateDragons.esp Active
• Immersive Weapons.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
• More Salt Please.esp Active
• dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp Active
• SameWalkRunSpeedsLite.esp
• SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp Active
  • Note: Uninstall old version of Skyrim Flora Overhaul if using SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
• SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp Active
• dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active
• dD-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active
• dD-Increase Fall Damage.esp
• torches for realistic lighting.esp Active
• Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp Active
• Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp Active
• Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp Active
• Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities & Town Interiors.esp Active
• Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp Active
• Realistic Lighting Overhaul - 3.5 Weathers.esp Active
• NoEyeAdaptation.esp Active
• NoEyeAdaptation - Realistic Lighting.esp Active
• dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp Active
  • Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.
• NPCsUseAmmoAllBows.esp
• MidasSkyrim.esp Active
• nighteyetoggle.esp Active
• DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Active
• Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp Active
• Balanced_Alteraton.esp
• Balanced_Conjuration.esp
• Balanced_Destruction.esp
• Balanced_Illusion.esp
• Balanced_Restoration.esp
• Sneak Tools.esp Active
• Skyrim Perk Enhancements.esp Active
• SPERG Dawnguard Patch.esp Active
• Stealth Skills Rebalanced_COMPLETE.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
• dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp Active
• UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active
  • Note:
    For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all
    included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or
    update see special instructions on mod page.
• UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Active
• UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Active
• Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp Active
• Better Followers - P.esp Active
  • Warning: Delete C01QuestScript.pex from data/scripts folder, if exist.
  • Note: Use only one Better Followers - *.esp
• argonianraptor.esp Active
• Nicer-Looking Khajiit.esp Active
• Timescale5.esp
• WATER.esp Active
• Blacksmithforge water fix.esp Active
• RaceMenu.esp Active
• RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active
  • Note:
    RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height,
    Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable
    RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.
• Bashed Patch, 0.esp Active

 

Unrecognised:

 

 

• Hearthfire - RL Patch.esp Active
• RLO_Torches_Flicker.esp Active
• owned-midas-compatability.esp Active
• IHSS.esp Active
• MoreArrowsGMST.esp Active
• Unleveled Uniques.esp Active
• ArgonianDisarmBashFix.esp Active
• AZ Argonian & Khajiit Vampire No Color Change.esp Active
• You're Being Followed.esp Active
• NPCsUseAmmo_IWPatch.esp

 

As a general note, not all listed plugins are active, and BOSS sorts them slightly differently to my preferences. Unrecognised plugins are sorted by hand. I have performed ITM cleaning on all my plugins except Skyrim's original files, and have Bashed everything that needed Bashing.

 

Thank you for taking a look, ripple!

Edited February 18, 2013 by Moogiefluff

[ripple]

Nothing jumps out as potentially breaking adoptions except this one:

• Owned.esp Active

Try uninstalling it (not just disable, but uninstall the plugin and the associated script files, or toggle the mod off in the installation window if you are using the Mod Organizer).

 

1) What do you normally do with the plugins not recognized by BOSS?

 

2) Which kid did you try to adopt? Have you tried adopting other kids?

 

3) When/where/how often do you CTD? Any patterns to them? With all saves? What happens when you try to start a new game?

 

Oh,

 

Timescale5.esp

 

If this does what I think it does, you should remove it and use the console to set the timescale instead. Timescale setting plugins are generally advised only for people who cannot use console to change the timescale for some reason.

 

Pull up console and type:

set timescale to #

Where # is the number of game minutes that passes per real time minute. Edited February 18, 2013 by ripple

[Moogiefluff]

1) Using Wrye Bash, I move them to a more appropriate position in the load order. OP has my actual load order. Whenever I add a mod or change its position, I re-build my bash patch. For the most part, I follow what BOSS suggests, especially when it comes to mod compatibilities and their associated patches.

2) I adopted Sophia from Winterhold. She runs around the outskirts of Whiterun now, to-and-from my house, and always says the same thing when I talk to her: "I need to grab my things, I'll meet you at home." I don't know exactly where she goes; she runs off and I lose sight of her. I haven't seen her again since I encountered her leaving my house a couple of days ago, but I'm sure she's running around outside somewhere. I haven't tried adopting more kids. I do not have a spouse.

3) Very frequently CTD when approaching Whiterun. If I manage to get close to Whiterun, I frequently CTD when crossing the bridge over the small stream leading up to the main gates. These CTDs will give me the typical "Skyrim has encountered an error and needs to close." popup. Other CTDs occur along major roads leaving the Whiterun area-- these crashes drop me immediately to my desktop (the Skyrim window just vanishes) without an error. This type of crash is what happened and produced the error log I posted in OP (the full log is bigger because I was playing for about ten minutes, and I can post the full log if needed). Other areas of the world sometimes CTD, but they are a rarer occurance. To my recollection, I have never CTD'd in an 'inside' cell.

Thank you for the suggestions- I will remove the timescale plugin and uninstall 'Owned'. I was under the impression that setting timescale via the console was temporary, and I wanted a more permanent solution. My current setting for this equates to 1 real-life minute = 5 Skyrim minutes.

Edited February 18, 2013 by Moogiefluff

[ripple]

1) Using Wrye Bash, I move them to a more appropriate position in the load order. OP has my actual load order. Whenever I add a mod or change its position, I re-build my bash patch. For the most part, I follow what BOSS suggests, especially when it comes to mod compatibilities and their associated patches.

Yeah, but these are plugins -not- recognized by BOSS. So BOSS doesn't know where to put them and they all end up loading at the end of your load order, overriding previously loaded plugins and potentially causing all sorts of havoc.

 

Plugins not recognize by BOSS need to be checked manually for

conflicting records in order to determine their load order position. The

only reliable way to do this is to use TES5Edit to check the plugin

records. Failing that, the user should uninstall plugins not recognized

by BOSS so they don't have to deal with the aggravation (but it's really

better to check them out in TES5Edit so you can use them safely in a

large load order). Users sometimes follow general guidelines provided by the modder to set the load order position of mods not recognized by BOSS. It seems that you were following this route? It's better than nothing, but since every load order is different, the 'general rule' approach is not always sufficient. The best method is still checking out the records in TES5Edit, because that's the only way you can be sure.

 

Try disabling the plugins not recognized by BOSS and see if that resolves your adoption issue. If it does then you know one of them is responsible. Use a save game you have from before you attempted to adopt Sophia to test this, and try adopting other kids as well.

 

The papyrus log can sometimes yield useful information about bugs and issues but it is not a 'crash log', so don't read it as such. We could be looking at two entirely different problems with the adoption and CTDs.

 

Random outdoor CTDs are often caused by mods that add more spawns and spawn points to the worldspace. For example, mods like SkyTest and Immersive Patrols. SkyTest was responsible for 95% of the outdoor CTDs I was experiencing when I had it in my load order. The author states on the mod description page that it often does not work well with large load orders, so I recommend you uninstall that mod and see if you stabilize your game.

 

You can post your papyrus log after doing that if you want. Delete all existing logs, then play for 10 minutes at least. Enclose the new log in a spoiler like you did with the BOSS log so it won't clutter the screen.

Edited February 18, 2013 by ripple

[Moogiefluff]

I disabled a few of the unrecognised plugins, as well as Owned (and the midas-owned patch), but still encountered a crash (same entry last in my Papyrus: defaultDeleteSelfOnReset.OnLoad() - "defaultDeleteSelfOnReset.psc" Line 25). I know what most of these other plugins change, having looked at everything in TES5Edit many times over the course of troubleshooting this issue, and I'm confident they don't touch anything related to this.

 

Now I have SkyTest disabled, and am currently following Sofie (I kept calling her Sophia, my bad) as I found her walking along the road leading East from Whiterun. I'm curious to see where she ends up, but she walks soooo slowly... :/

 

I'll post back my findings if/when I crash again, or if Sofie does something unexpected. Thanks again for your helpful suggestions, ripple.

 

 

Edit: She walked a little ways across the bridge over the river, and then suddenly disappeared. The last thing in my log right now is "QUEUING EMERGENCY MOVE." So I guess that's what that does.

Edited February 18, 2013 by Moogiefluff

[ripple]

Do you CTD when she disappears?

[Moogiefluff]

No, I went all the way back to Whiterun and found her walking around inside Whiterun again. By the way, I did that without crashing! I've been riding to/from Whiterun along various roads, and haven't crashed again since disabling SkyTest. On reading that mod's comments page, I'm starting to think it is the primary cause of my CTDs.

 

I am still troubled by the repeated "adoption scheduler" errors though, and the fact that Sofie is stuck in her endless loop. Is there some way to set a quest variable, or somesuch, to make her think she's done her preparations and just needs to go home? I'm not sure how all of that works, to be honest.

 

I want to try adopting another kid, but I don't know where to actually find any. I ran into her purely by accident early in my character's life. That also means going back to a save before I adopted her will be a bit difficult. I'll lose a lot of history, sadly.

[ripple]

There's a kid in Windhelm, near the gate to the docks, selling flowers. Try adopting her.

 

By the way, I need to ask this just to make sure we got everything covered: does your character own a house with a child's bedroom? Did you, by chance, make any sort of changes either in game or load order-wise (e.g. uninstalled a mod) that may have disrupted the adoption process?