MJJG96 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Hey everyone, FIrst time posting in this forum so sorry if this is in the wrong place, please delete if this kind of thing isn't allowed. I have been modding Fallout, Skyrim, Oblivion etc for years, I started modding back in 2006 so I would say I have a good understanding of how to install mods but I wouldn't say I am great at it. I'm having issues modding Fallout 4 and have never had an issue like I am having now where when I start F4SE the application opens the game, but then that's where it stops, there is no CTD, it's just a black screen with the windows loading circle just spinning. About 90% of the time, if I click anywhere on the screen it turns white and says it is not responding, other times it just doesn't react and stays on the black screen. I have gone through my mods list and cannot see anything that would conflict and LOOT also doesn't show any messages relating to this, I have (I believe I do anyway) all patches to ensure mod incompatabilities are avoided, and Vortex doesn't show any missing masters, I have also cleaned all dirty mods and sorted everything. I do believe I have quite a few mods so it could be the sheer amount of mods? It says I have 260 plugins but over 50 of those are light plugins (ESL's) and it is possible I am missing something quite obvious so sorry if this is the case. I don't want to come across as being lazy because I am honestly not, I have tried looking through the load order and changing it around, disabling mods that I think may be the problems and then trying the 50/50 method, I have also looked up guides etc online, but as mentioned when I disable all mods it still has the above issue, but prior to installing ANY mods, I testing it by re-installing the base game and it starts just fine. It is only when I finish installing mods do I have issues. I have posted my load order below, if someone could kindly have a look at it, I know it's a big ask, but I would really appreciate it and it would help me understand where I have gone wrong so I can avoid it in the future. Thank you :) 0 0 Fallout4.esm 1 1 DLCRobot.esm 2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm 3 3 DLCCoast.esm 4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm 5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm 6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm 7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp 8 8 ArmorKeywords.esm 9 9 CWSS Redux.esp 10 a NoraSpouse.esm 11 b Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esm 12 c HUDFramework.esm 13 d JonsMod.esm254 FE 0 SC-SanctuaryCrash-redux.esl 14 e WorkshopFramework.esm 15 f SimSettlements.esm254 FE 1 SSCityPlanContest_BostonAirport_Hornet.esl 16 10 Homemaker.esm 17 11 Darlene.esm254 FE 2 InstituteSky.esl 18 12 Snap'n Build.esm254 FE 3 SSCityPlanContest_BostonAirport_Korvac.esl254 FE 4 SSCityPlanContest_BostonAirport_MadGax.esl254 FE 5 SSCityPlanContest_BostonAirport_NDCowdy.esl254 FE 6 SSCityPlanContest_BunkerHill_Ausplat.esl254 FE 7 SSCityPlanContest_BunkerHill_Karvoc.esl 19 13 TrueStormsFO4.esm254 FE 8 SSCityPlanContest_BunkerHill_KynthiaBarnes.esl254 FE 9 SSCityPlanContest_Covenant_MadGax.esl254 FE a SSCityPlanContest_Covenant_harkness13.esl254 FE b SSCityPlanContest_Covenant_xMORIDARx.esl254 FE c SSCityPlanContest_DaltonFarm_NDCowdy.esl254 FE d SSCityPlanContest_DaltonFarm_Tiamazzo.esl254 FE e SSCityPlanContest_DaltonFarm_aSemioticGhost.esl254 FE f SSCityPlanContest_EchoLakeLumber_KynthiaBarnes.esl254 FE 10 SSCityPlanContest_EchoLakeLumber_NDCowdy.esl254 FE 11 SSCityPlanContest_EchoLakeLumber_aSemioticGhost.esl254 FE 12 SSCityPlanContest_LongfellowsCabin_Ausplat.esl254 FE 13 SSCityPlanContest_LongfellowsCabin_Karvoc.esl254 FE 14 SSCityPlanContest_LongfellowsCabin_Kharon93.esl254 FE 15 SSCityPlanContest_LongfellowsCabin_KynthiaBarnes.esl254 FE 16 SSCityPlanContest_LongfellowsCabin_MrCJohn.esl254 FE 17 SSCityPlanContest_MechanistsLair_Karvoc.esl254 FE 18 SSCityPlanContest_MechanistsLair_NickFarrell.esl254 FE 19 SSCityPlanContest_MechanistsLair_Tiamazzo.esl254 FE 1a SSCityPlanContest_MechanistsLair_xMORIDARx.esl254 FE 1b SSCityPlanContest_NPVCenter_Ausplat.esl254 FE 1c SSCityPlanContest_NPVCenter_Myrmarachne.esl254 FE 1d SSCityPlanContest_NPVCenter_NDCowdy.esl254 FE 1e SSCityPlanContest_NPVCenter_Yagisan.esl254 FE 1f SSCityPlanContest_OutpostZimonja_Ausplat.esl254 FE 20 SSCityPlanContest_OutpostZimonja_Karvoc.esl254 FE 21 SSCityPlanContest_OutpostZimonja_NDCowdy.esl254 FE 22 SSCityPlanContest_OutpostZimonja_PhilTCasual.esl254 FE 23 SSCityPlanContest_TheCastle_Ausplat.esl254 FE 24 SSCityPlanContest_TheCastle_Karvoc.esl254 FE 25 SSCityPlanContest_TheCastle_Tori.esl254 FE 26 SSCityPlanContest_TheCastle_Whisper.esl254 FE 27 SSCityPlanContest_Vault88_Choochoo1.esl254 FE 28 SSCityPlanContest_Vault88_Myrmarachne.esl254 FE 29 SSCityPlanContest_Vault88_WeiseDrachenJaeger.esl254 FE 2a SSCityPlanContest_Vault88_aSemioticGhost.esl254 FE 2b SSCityPlanContest_Vault88_harkness13.esl 20 14 Crimsomrider's Likable Strong.esp 21 15 Locksmith.esp 22 16 512StandaloneHairColors.esp 23 17 LagrieHelmet.esp 24 18 AVBMusket.esp 25 19 AVBPipeGunsReplace.esp 26 1a AVDelivererReplace.esp254 FE 2c AnimatedIngestibles.esp 27 1b AVBMGReplace.esp 28 1c AutoDoors.esp 29 1d DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp 30 1e def_inv_scrap_en.esp 31 1f PlayerComments.esp 32 20 Better Cooking Stations.esp 33 21 NB_BuildLimitRemover.esp 34 22 BusySettlers.esp 35 23 CROSS_Cybernetics.esp 36 24 CROSS_GoreCrits.esp 37 25 CBBE.esp 38 26 chem redux.esp 39 27 PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.esp 40 28 SOTS.esp 41 29 CF_AtomicWarlord.esp 42 2a KSHairdos.esp 43 2b CompanionsGoHome_A.esp 44 2c CompanionStatus.esp 45 2d Crimsomrider's Unique Furniture.esp 46 2e EasyHacking.esp 47 2f Elysium.esp 48 30 fathercompanion.esp 49 31 NoraSpouseFarHarbor.esp 50 32 Faster Terminal Displays (20x).esp 51 33 GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp 52 34 HeavyGunnerArmor.esp 53 35 Ghouls Revamped.esp 54 36 HoloTime.esp 55 37 DarleneDLC.esp 56 38 AA HotC - Standalone - SE.esp 57 39 Housekeeping.esp 58 3a ImmersiveVendors.esp 59 3b K9TacticalHarness.esp 60 3c KURO.esp 61 3d LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp 62 3e LMBTOverlays.esp 63 3f LooksMirror.esp 64 40 LooksMenu.esp 65 41 Lots More Facial Hair.esp 66 42 Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp 67 43 Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp 68 44 More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp 69 45 Mosin.esp 70 46 Multiple Floors Sandboxing.esp 71 47 Northland Diggers New.esp 72 48 OCDecorator.esp 73 49 Child Posters.esp 74 4a PipBoyShadows.esp 75 4b PlayerCommentsCWSSPatch.esp 76 4c AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp 77 4d Prisoner Shackles.esp 78 4e Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp 79 4f SettlementMenuManager.esp 80 50 PlayerComments_PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul_Patch.esp 81 51 Edit_Hancock.esp 82 52 Shadows_for_Sim_Settlements.esp 83 53 Sim_Settlements_Mayors.esp 84 54 Smoke-able Cigars.esp 85 55 SnapBeds.esp254 FE 2d SolarPower.esp 86 56 SuperMutantClothes.esp 87 57 Survivalist GoBags-Chem Station.esp 88 58 BTInteriors_Project.esp 89 59 3DNPC_FO4.esp 90 5a Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - AiO.esp 91 5b subwayrunnnerdynamiclighting.esp 92 5c OutcastsAndRemnants.esp 93 5d TenpinesBluff-OverHaul-redux.esp 94 5e AGNISNikaCola01.esp 95 5f Depravity.esp 96 60 Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp 97 61 The Train.esp 98 62 RaiderOverhaul.esp 99 63 AE LLP - Lagrie Helmets - Raider Overhaul.esp100 64 Crossbow.esp101 65 Campsite.esp102 66 FaceMaxson.esp103 67 CombatZoneRestored.esp104 68 AA FusionCityRising.esp105 69 AA FusionCityRising - HotC.esp106 6a TrainBar.esp107 6b Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp108 6c CrimeTown.esp109 6d Eli_Companions 9000 GTX.esp110 6e 3DNPC_FO4_DLC.esp111 6f BetterOpenSeason.esp112 70 WRVR.esp113 71 W.A.T.Minutemen.esp114 72 DCGuard_Overhaul.esp115 73 MaxwellsWorl.esp116 74 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp117 75 BOS_overhaul.esp118 76 CheatTerminal.esp119 77 DiverseChildren.esp120 78 PlayerComments_3DNPC_FO4_Patch.esp121 79 PlayerComments_CZRPatch.esp122 7a Backpacks of the Commonwealth.esp123 7b NorthernSpringsLODPatch.esp124 7c 3DNPC_FO4Settler.esp125 7d Snappy_HouseK.esp126 7e The Eyes Of Beauty.esp127 7f M14.esp254 FE 2e TheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.esp128 80 Thematic and Practical.esp129 81 Thematic and Practical - DLC.esp130 82 TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp131 83 PlayerComments_UFO4P_Patch.esp132 84 Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp254 FE 2f WET.esp133 85 VtawWardrobe4.esp134 86 VtawWardrobe6.esp135 87 WastelandFashionAccessories.esp136 88 WastelandFashion.esp137 89 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp138 8a AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - No Crafting Perks.esp254 FE 30 Wetness Shader Fix.esp139 8b WDP-PC.esp140 8c Working_Beehives.esp141 8d WorkshopPlus.esp142 8e XnjguyFilledMods_AIO.esp143 8f walkers.esp144 90 dinomore.esp145 91 g2m_Workshop_Nexus.esp146 92 AA 50 Ways To Die.esp147 93 ProjectValkyrie.esp148 94 Conquest.esp149 95 CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp254 FE 31 CROSS_MojaveManhunter.esp150 96 LString_Bow.esp151 97 ZebrinasWorkshopDevices.esp152 98 cVc Dead Wasteland 6.esp153 99 ellen.esp154 9a M1Garand.esp155 9b SleepIntimate.esp156 9c FO4 NPCs Travel.esp157 9d LeeEnfieldNo4MkI.esp158 9e llamaCompanionHeather.esp159 9f FCOM.esp160 a0 WVSimSAddon.esp161 a1 AtomicRadio.esp162 a2 AkaWaterWorld.esp163 a3 F4NVSingleActionArmy.esp164 a4 IMG_Castle_Wall_Patches.esp165 a5 M1Garand - AWKCR.esp166 a6 SSEX.esp167 a7 SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearThree.esp168 a8 cVc Dead Wasteland 6 DLC3.esp169 a9 cVc Dead Wasteland 6 DLC2.esp170 aa 155mm Howitzer M1.esp171 ab BNK.esp172 ac DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp173 ad CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp174 ae M1Garand-1.5xDMG.esp175 af OCDecoratorDLC.esp176 b0 Orphans.esp177 b1 TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp178 b2 TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp179 b3 OCDispenser.esp180 b4 BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp181 b5 TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp182 b6 TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp183 b7 3dscopes.esp184 b8 PlayerMarriage.esp185 b9 Armorsmith Extended.esp186 ba Survivalist.esp187 bb llamaCompanionHeather-AE Patch.esp188 bc Raider Overhaul - AE Patch.esp189 bd SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp190 be Synth Overhaul.esp191 bf Synth Overhaul - No level requirements Patch.esp192 c0 Synth Overhaul - White Patch.esp193 c1 Unique NPCs.esp194 c2 Unique NPCs FarHarbor.esp195 c3 Unique NPCs_SpecialSettlers_All.esp196 c4 Unique NPCs - Creatures and Monsters.esp197 c5 Unique NPCs - Creatures and Monsters - AE Patch.esp198 c6 Unique NPCs - Creatures and Monsters - NonLore.esp199 c7 SuperMutantRedux.esp200 c8 SuperMutantRedux_ArmorSmithExtended.esp201 c9 Unique NPCs - Creatures and Monsters_SMR_AE.esp202 ca Unique_NPCs_SuperMutantRedux.esp203 cb Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp204 cc BetterSettlers.esp205 cd BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp206 ce BetterSettlersMortalPack.esp207 cf EnhancedLightsandFX.esp208 d0 StartMeUp.esp209 d1 PlayerCommentsStartMeUpPatch.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 You are exceeding the amount of files you can have in the game. I believe that all the #254s you have indicates this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJJG96 Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 You are exceeding the amount of files you can have in the game. I believe that all the #254s you have indicates this. So the issue could stem from the mods that have 254 by them? I'll try going through and disabling these. I re-call having issues with mods like the city planning pack previously but wasn't sure, I'll give it a go, thank you :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luicianshepard Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) disable the smaller mods you could live without is a good start too Edited October 13, 2020 by luicianshepard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luicianshepard Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 when a game loads so many files all at once Ive noticed most mods dont even start up or actually work and it goes unnoticed , I would combined plugins with FOedit or just get rid of mods you havent even used in a long time or played with in game .. apart from that it could actually be your cpu memory maxing out as soon as the game loads which is what it actually sounds like to me besides the massive load order , have your task manager up and moniter your cpu and memory when you start the game and see if it maxs out to 100 % as the game tries to start . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJJG96 Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 Hey everyone, FIrst time posting in this forum so sorry if this is in the wrong place, please delete if this kind of thing isn't allowed. I have been modding Fallout, Skyrim, Oblivion etc for years, I started modding back in 2006 so I would say I have a good understanding of how to install mods but I wouldn't say I am great at it. I'm having issues modding Fallout 4 and have never had an issue like I am having now where when I start F4SE the application opens the game, but then that's where it stops, there is no CTD, it's just a black screen with the windows loading circle just spinning. About 90% of the time, if I click anywhere on the screen it turns white and says it is not responding, other times it just doesn't react and stays on the black screen. I have gone through my mods list and cannot see anything that would conflict and LOOT also doesn't show any messages relating to this, I have (I believe I do anyway) all patches to ensure mod incompatabilities are avoided, and Vortex doesn't show any missing masters, I have also cleaned all dirty mods and sorted everything. I do believe I have quite a few mods so it could be the sheer amount of mods? It says I have 260 plugins but over 50 of those are light plugins (ESL's) and it is possible I am missing something quite obvious so sorry if this is the case. I don't want to come across as being lazy because I am honestly not, I have tried looking through the load order and changing it around, disabling mods that I think may be the problems and then trying the 50/50 method, I have also looked up guides etc online, but as mentioned when I disable all mods it still has the above issue, but prior to installing ANY mods, I testing it by re-installing the base game and it starts just fine. It is only when I finish installing mods do I have issues. I have posted my load order below, if someone could kindly have a look at it, I know it's a big ask, but I would really appreciate it and it would help me understand where I have gone wrong so I can avoid it in the future. Thank you :smile: 0 0 Fallout4.esm 1 1 DLCRobot.esm 2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm 3 3 DLCCoast.esm 4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm 5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm 6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm 7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp 8 8 ArmorKeywords.esm 9 9 CWSS Redux.esp 10 a NoraSpouse.esm 11 b Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esm 12 c HUDFramework.esm 13 d JonsMod.esm254 FE 0 SC-SanctuaryCrash-redux.esl 14 e WorkshopFramework.esm 15 f SimSettlements.esm254 FE 1 SSCityPlanContest_BostonAirport_Hornet.esl 16 10 Homemaker.esm 17 11 Darlene.esm254 FE 2 InstituteSky.esl 18 12 Snap'n Build.esm254 FE 3 SSCityPlanContest_BostonAirport_Korvac.esl254 FE 4 SSCityPlanContest_BostonAirport_MadGax.esl254 FE 5 SSCityPlanContest_BostonAirport_NDCowdy.esl254 FE 6 SSCityPlanContest_BunkerHill_Ausplat.esl254 FE 7 SSCityPlanContest_BunkerHill_Karvoc.esl 19 13 TrueStormsFO4.esm254 FE 8 SSCityPlanContest_BunkerHill_KynthiaBarnes.esl254 FE 9 SSCityPlanContest_Covenant_MadGax.esl254 FE a SSCityPlanContest_Covenant_harkness13.esl254 FE b SSCityPlanContest_Covenant_xMORIDARx.esl254 FE c SSCityPlanContest_DaltonFarm_NDCowdy.esl254 FE d SSCityPlanContest_DaltonFarm_Tiamazzo.esl254 FE e SSCityPlanContest_DaltonFarm_aSemioticGhost.esl254 FE f SSCityPlanContest_EchoLakeLumber_KynthiaBarnes.esl254 FE 10 SSCityPlanContest_EchoLakeLumber_NDCowdy.esl254 FE 11 SSCityPlanContest_EchoLakeLumber_aSemioticGhost.esl254 FE 12 SSCityPlanContest_LongfellowsCabin_Ausplat.esl254 FE 13 SSCityPlanContest_LongfellowsCabin_Karvoc.esl254 FE 14 SSCityPlanContest_LongfellowsCabin_Kharon93.esl254 FE 15 SSCityPlanContest_LongfellowsCabin_KynthiaBarnes.esl254 FE 16 SSCityPlanContest_LongfellowsCabin_MrCJohn.esl254 FE 17 SSCityPlanContest_MechanistsLair_Karvoc.esl254 FE 18 SSCityPlanContest_MechanistsLair_NickFarrell.esl254 FE 19 SSCityPlanContest_MechanistsLair_Tiamazzo.esl254 FE 1a SSCityPlanContest_MechanistsLair_xMORIDARx.esl254 FE 1b SSCityPlanContest_NPVCenter_Ausplat.esl254 FE 1c SSCityPlanContest_NPVCenter_Myrmarachne.esl254 FE 1d SSCityPlanContest_NPVCenter_NDCowdy.esl254 FE 1e SSCityPlanContest_NPVCenter_Yagisan.esl254 FE 1f SSCityPlanContest_OutpostZimonja_Ausplat.esl254 FE 20 SSCityPlanContest_OutpostZimonja_Karvoc.esl254 FE 21 SSCityPlanContest_OutpostZimonja_NDCowdy.esl254 FE 22 SSCityPlanContest_OutpostZimonja_PhilTCasual.esl254 FE 23 SSCityPlanContest_TheCastle_Ausplat.esl254 FE 24 SSCityPlanContest_TheCastle_Karvoc.esl254 FE 25 SSCityPlanContest_TheCastle_Tori.esl254 FE 26 SSCityPlanContest_TheCastle_Whisper.esl254 FE 27 SSCityPlanContest_Vault88_Choochoo1.esl254 FE 28 SSCityPlanContest_Vault88_Myrmarachne.esl254 FE 29 SSCityPlanContest_Vault88_WeiseDrachenJaeger.esl254 FE 2a SSCityPlanContest_Vault88_aSemioticGhost.esl254 FE 2b SSCityPlanContest_Vault88_harkness13.esl 20 14 Crimsomrider's Likable Strong.esp 21 15 Locksmith.esp 22 16 512StandaloneHairColors.esp 23 17 LagrieHelmet.esp 24 18 AVBMusket.esp 25 19 AVBPipeGunsReplace.esp 26 1a AVDelivererReplace.esp254 FE 2c AnimatedIngestibles.esp 27 1b AVBMGReplace.esp 28 1c AutoDoors.esp 29 1d DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp 30 1e def_inv_scrap_en.esp 31 1f PlayerComments.esp 32 20 Better Cooking Stations.esp 33 21 NB_BuildLimitRemover.esp 34 22 BusySettlers.esp 35 23 CROSS_Cybernetics.esp 36 24 CROSS_GoreCrits.esp 37 25 CBBE.esp 38 26 chem redux.esp 39 27 PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.esp 40 28 SOTS.esp 41 29 CF_AtomicWarlord.esp 42 2a KSHairdos.esp 43 2b CompanionsGoHome_A.esp 44 2c CompanionStatus.esp 45 2d Crimsomrider's Unique Furniture.esp 46 2e EasyHacking.esp 47 2f Elysium.esp 48 30 fathercompanion.esp 49 31 NoraSpouseFarHarbor.esp 50 32 Faster Terminal Displays (20x).esp 51 33 GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp 52 34 HeavyGunnerArmor.esp 53 35 Ghouls Revamped.esp 54 36 HoloTime.esp 55 37 DarleneDLC.esp 56 38 AA HotC - Standalone - SE.esp 57 39 Housekeeping.esp 58 3a ImmersiveVendors.esp 59 3b K9TacticalHarness.esp 60 3c KURO.esp 61 3d LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp 62 3e LMBTOverlays.esp 63 3f LooksMirror.esp 64 40 LooksMenu.esp 65 41 Lots More Facial Hair.esp 66 42 Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp 67 43 Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp 68 44 More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp 69 45 Mosin.esp 70 46 Multiple Floors Sandboxing.esp 71 47 Northland Diggers New.esp 72 48 OCDecorator.esp 73 49 Child Posters.esp 74 4a PipBoyShadows.esp 75 4b PlayerCommentsCWSSPatch.esp 76 4c AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp 77 4d Prisoner Shackles.esp 78 4e Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp 79 4f SettlementMenuManager.esp 80 50 PlayerComments_PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul_Patch.esp 81 51 Edit_Hancock.esp 82 52 Shadows_for_Sim_Settlements.esp 83 53 Sim_Settlements_Mayors.esp 84 54 Smoke-able Cigars.esp 85 55 SnapBeds.esp254 FE 2d SolarPower.esp 86 56 SuperMutantClothes.esp 87 57 Survivalist GoBags-Chem Station.esp 88 58 BTInteriors_Project.esp 89 59 3DNPC_FO4.esp 90 5a Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - AiO.esp 91 5b subwayrunnnerdynamiclighting.esp 92 5c OutcastsAndRemnants.esp 93 5d TenpinesBluff-OverHaul-redux.esp 94 5e AGNISNikaCola01.esp 95 5f Depravity.esp 96 60 Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp 97 61 The Train.esp 98 62 RaiderOverhaul.esp 99 63 AE LLP - Lagrie Helmets - Raider Overhaul.esp100 64 Crossbow.esp101 65 Campsite.esp102 66 FaceMaxson.esp103 67 CombatZoneRestored.esp104 68 AA FusionCityRising.esp105 69 AA FusionCityRising - HotC.esp106 6a TrainBar.esp107 6b Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp108 6c CrimeTown.esp109 6d Eli_Companions 9000 GTX.esp110 6e 3DNPC_FO4_DLC.esp111 6f BetterOpenSeason.esp112 70 WRVR.esp113 71 W.A.T.Minutemen.esp114 72 DCGuard_Overhaul.esp115 73 MaxwellsWorl.esp116 74 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp117 75 BOS_overhaul.esp118 76 CheatTerminal.esp119 77 DiverseChildren.esp120 78 PlayerComments_3DNPC_FO4_Patch.esp121 79 PlayerComments_CZRPatch.esp122 7a Backpacks of the Commonwealth.esp123 7b NorthernSpringsLODPatch.esp124 7c 3DNPC_FO4Settler.esp125 7d Snappy_HouseK.esp126 7e The Eyes Of Beauty.esp127 7f M14.esp254 FE 2e TheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.esp128 80 Thematic and Practical.esp129 81 Thematic and Practical - DLC.esp130 82 TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp131 83 PlayerComments_UFO4P_Patch.esp132 84 Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp254 FE 2f WET.esp133 85 VtawWardrobe4.esp134 86 VtawWardrobe6.esp135 87 WastelandFashionAccessories.esp136 88 WastelandFashion.esp137 89 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp138 8a AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - No Crafting Perks.esp254 FE 30 Wetness Shader Fix.esp139 8b WDP-PC.esp140 8c Working_Beehives.esp141 8d WorkshopPlus.esp142 8e XnjguyFilledMods_AIO.esp143 8f walkers.esp144 90 dinomore.esp145 91 g2m_Workshop_Nexus.esp146 92 AA 50 Ways To Die.esp147 93 ProjectValkyrie.esp148 94 Conquest.esp149 95 CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp254 FE 31 CROSS_MojaveManhunter.esp150 96 LString_Bow.esp151 97 ZebrinasWorkshopDevices.esp152 98 cVc Dead Wasteland 6.esp153 99 ellen.esp154 9a M1Garand.esp155 9b SleepIntimate.esp156 9c FO4 NPCs Travel.esp157 9d LeeEnfieldNo4MkI.esp158 9e llamaCompanionHeather.esp159 9f FCOM.esp160 a0 WVSimSAddon.esp161 a1 AtomicRadio.esp162 a2 AkaWaterWorld.esp163 a3 F4NVSingleActionArmy.esp164 a4 IMG_Castle_Wall_Patches.esp165 a5 M1Garand - AWKCR.esp166 a6 SSEX.esp167 a7 SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearThree.esp168 a8 cVc Dead Wasteland 6 DLC3.esp169 a9 cVc Dead Wasteland 6 DLC2.esp170 aa 155mm Howitzer M1.esp171 ab BNK.esp172 ac DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp173 ad CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp174 ae M1Garand-1.5xDMG.esp175 af OCDecoratorDLC.esp176 b0 Orphans.esp177 b1 TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp178 b2 TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp179 b3 OCDispenser.esp180 b4 BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp181 b5 TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp182 b6 TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp183 b7 3dscopes.esp184 b8 PlayerMarriage.esp185 b9 Armorsmith Extended.esp186 ba Survivalist.esp187 bb llamaCompanionHeather-AE Patch.esp188 bc Raider Overhaul - AE Patch.esp189 bd SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp190 be Synth Overhaul.esp191 bf Synth Overhaul - No level requirements Patch.esp192 c0 Synth Overhaul - White Patch.esp193 c1 Unique NPCs.esp194 c2 Unique NPCs FarHarbor.esp195 c3 Unique NPCs_SpecialSettlers_All.esp196 c4 Unique NPCs - Creatures and Monsters.esp197 c5 Unique NPCs - Creatures and Monsters - AE Patch.esp198 c6 Unique NPCs - Creatures and Monsters - NonLore.esp199 c7 SuperMutantRedux.esp200 c8 SuperMutantRedux_ArmorSmithExtended.esp201 c9 Unique NPCs - Creatures and Monsters_SMR_AE.esp202 ca Unique_NPCs_SuperMutantRedux.esp203 cb Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp204 cc BetterSettlers.esp205 cd BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp206 ce BetterSettlersMortalPack.esp207 cf EnhancedLightsandFX.esp208 d0 StartMeUp.esp209 d1 PlayerCommentsStartMeUpPatch.esp when a game loads so many files all at once Ive noticed most mods dont even start up or actually work and it goes unnoticed , I would combined plugins with FOedit or just get rid of mods you havent even used in a long time or played with in game .. apart from that it could actually be your cpu memory maxing out as soon as the game loads which is what it actually sounds like to me besides the massive load order , have your task manager up and moniter your cpu and memory when you start the game and see if it maxs out to 100 % as the game tries to start . It could be that there are so many files like you said because most of the mods above I have used and haven't had this issue and there are many mods I figured I would give a try for the first time (the new DLC sized quest mods and locations for example) but it's probably best to stick with what I know. I'll reduce how many mods I have for sure and if that doesn't work I'll have a look at my task manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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