KevinDAmery Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I'm having a couple of quests refuse to start or progress, strangely all in the Falkreath area. Specifically: After being asked to find the dog for Lod, I go to the quest marker but Barbas isn't there. This is repeatable after multiple reloads. After talking to Mathies and Sinding, I have the Cursed Ring of Hircine but the Ill Met By Moonlight quest is not in the journal. Quest stage says it's at 0 (even though Sinding gave me the ring so I should be at stage 10 or 20) and the White Stag is also a no show. The first problem has happened in a couple of different test playthroughs. This is the first I've seen the second problem, but that may be because I haven't been explicitly testing that quest so I just never saw it. I've taken a look in XEdit to see if there are any conflicts around those quests but I cannot see anything obvious. (Not to say it isn't a conflict -- very likely is -- but that if it is it's one I'm not skilled enough to spot.) Any help appreciated. 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KevinDAmery Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 I may have a lead on the problem, but still have not been able to crack it. I found that I had a mixed up install of Kryptopyr's Patch Hub that included scripts for patches that I was not using the ESP for, including ones that replace the vanilla scripts for the affected quests. I thought that would be it, but.... I did a new, clean install of the Patch Hub without the scripts, then rolled back a few saves and tried getting the quests again. Unfortunately I still have the same behaviours. After being asked to find the dog for Lod, I go to the quest marker but Barbas still isn't there. After talking to Mathies and Sinding, I have the Cursed Ring of Hircine but the Ill Met By Moonlight quest is not in the journal. Quest stage says it's at 0 (even though Sinding gave me the ring so I should be at stage 10 or 20) and the White Stag is also a no show. It's like the dialog is all ok, and it even gives me the Cursed Ring of Hircine, but for some reason it just will not actually trigger the quests. So, Question: if the game previously had a "bad" (or mismatched) version of a quest script, but now has a "good" version of it, will it read the "good" version or is the "bad" version somehow baked into the save? (Even though I went back to a save file from before starting either quest?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinDAmery Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 SOLVED: turns out that in fact it was the script mismatch I mentioned in my previous post. Unfortunately, in order for the fix to take effect you need to start a new game (so if anyone in the future runs into this, sorry, your current save is probably SOL). In any case, after removing the script mismatch and starting a new game, Barbas appears in the correct place and Ill Met by Moonlight proceeds correctly after talking to Sinding the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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