ASUS HDAV Xonar the only HDMI soundcard

[Thor.]

No bet its not, some and most cards don't allow such things do to limitation of dvd roms, if you want trueHD Asus or Creative with spdif out or hdmi like the Asus. I always trust sound cards over any on board sound, it might have decent sound but nothing that would match the quality that I'm looking for.

 

Especially know what i'm talking about, :geek: you trying to convince me otherwise is funny. because it ain't working :biggrin:

parts do matter

 

if you can do a comparison check spec wise, it wouldn't be able to compete i bet.

Edited March 5, 2013 by Thor.

[JimboUK]

They're not for an onboard card, those drivers will get the sound on your graphics card working properly. Anyway the sound is digital, the quality is determined by the receiver and speakers, nothing else.

[Thor.]

Sigh show me the specs vs the Sonar HDAv1.3 then we'll talk :biggrin: Sound quality is what I'm looking fro and it beats creative and that's good enough for me.

 

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=341&Itemid=59&limit=1&limitstart=1

If ya know what all that means, i do :teehee:

Also for some reason creative has an issue with static and hiss. After several years of switching between models, its always been the same, so change is always welcome.

Edited March 5, 2013 by Thor.

[kalikka]

As Jim already said, digital sound is digital.

The zeros and ones that come out of the soundfile dont change while its transmitted from the PC to your receiver. Meaning that if the soundcard makes things sound better, its most likely altering the original sound with drivers (=flexbass, etc.).

 

So the sound quality only depends on the receiver/speaker, soundcard has absolutely nothing to do with it (except for the alteration of the original sound with drivers, but I absolutely prefer Hi-Fi mode above everything else when it comes to music).

[Thor.]

You don't know what your talking about, if that was the case the would stop making better greater sound sound chips now would they, that has to be the silliest thing i heard in a long time.

 

Although i do agree the snes sounded good back in the day :teehee: :teehee:

Edited March 5, 2013 by Thor.

[kalikka]

Wait.... Are you really that out-of-the-loop? Sounds are handled by the CPU, not the soundcard. All the modern game titles dont use any hardware accelerated sounds (EAX), google it if you dont believe me. By hardware acceleration I mean that the soundcard takes the job from CPU, you can see how it works in the HDAV review. But with win7/win8, the hardware acceleration has become obsolete.

 

That is exactly why Recon3D soundcard that has the "4-core soundprocessor" is craptastic with its crappy DAC. Your own CPU can already do the same things as the soundcard, the soundcard just has better drivers for surround-sound.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1269487/recon-3d-or-titanium-fatal1ty-professional#post_17488247

 

 

A soundcard does all the sound processing a cpu would have done, so
there is no in between ergo "best performance". Either it off loads from
the cpu or it doesn't, so performance gain is the same with those two
cards.

So any of those two options will help performance, although negligeable.

Performance wise (not sound quality wise) the biggest advantage of
having a sound card vs motherboard sound, is when the cpu is under heavy
load you won't get lag and stuttering/jumping sound.


Also, be cautious, alot of the creative so called features are just pure marketing gimmicks.

 

Edited March 5, 2013 by kalikka

[Thor.]

I'm not going to argue from experience, so this ends here. It seems to have gone way off topic.

 

 

wiki doesn't lie, i win.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_card

 

also matters what kind of cable you use to.

Edited March 5, 2013 by Thor.

[kalikka]

 

Most sound cards use a digital-to-analog converter (DAC), which converts recorded or generated digital data into an analog format. The output signal is connected to an amplifier, headphones, or external device using standard interconnects, such as a TRS phone connector or an RCA connector.
If the number and size of connectors is too large for the space on the
backplate the connectors will be off-board, typically using a breakout
box, an auxiliary backplate, or a panel mounted at the front. More
advanced cards usually include more than one sound chip to support
higher data rates and multiple simultaneous functionality, for example
digital production of synthesized sounds, usually for real-time generation of music and sound effects using minimal data and CPU time.

Digital sound reproduction is usually done with multichannel DACs,
which are capable of simultaneous digital samples at different pitches
and volumes, and application of real-time effects such as filtering or
deliberate distortion. Multichannel digital sound playback can also be
used for music synthesis, when used with a compliance^{[clarification needed]}, and even multiple-channel emulation. This approach has become common as manufacturers seek simpler and lower-cost sound cards.

Most sound cards have a line in connector for an input signal from a cassette tape or other sound source that has higher voltage levels than a microphone. The sound card digitizes this signal. The DMAC transfers the samples to the main memory, from where a recording software may write it to the hard disk for storage, editing, or further processing. Another common external connector is the microphone connector, for signals from a microphone or other low-level input device. Input through a microphone jack can be used, for example, by speech recognition or voice over IP applications.

Yes, wiki doesnt lie. DAC and the original soundfile decides the quality of the sound.

And if you dont understand, your receiver is the DAC.

Edited March 5, 2013 by kalikka

[Thor.]

Sigh arguments like this can go on forever, yes i know what a dac is, and i bought the sound card :biggrin: its already on its way. So this thread is closed.

I'm currently using is the creative 5.1 usb soundcard and its showing its age. Also again the radeon don't like handshaking to a HD receiver. Even when it was the dedicated source. It wouldn't pass through the receiver to tv.

 

Its a issue with the Radeon cards alone, i searched for a solution but its seems to be a glitch with every Radeon.

Edited March 5, 2013 by Thor.

[JimboUK]

You don't know what your talking about, if that was the case the would stop making better greater sound sound chips now would they, that has to be the silliest thing i heard in a long time.

 

Although i do agree the snes sounded good back in the day :teehee: :teehee:

 

The sound chip is in the receiver, the data goes from the PC to the receiver where it is processed.