ASUS HDAV Xonar the only HDMI soundcard

[FMod]

Digital is digital, it's either there or it's not.

Onboard sound may be a little buggy, any real sound card with digital is the same.

 

Some audiophiles claim to hear a difference, but can't prove it in double blind tests. In theory there are some very minor effects related to jitter and ground loops. These are far outside the realm of what anyone with a sub-$5,000 stereo (or $10k multichannel) system should concern themselves with.

 

 

edit: Although game sound and sound processing in general are still handled by sound cards. Even when the CPU does most of the work (in X-Fi it doesn't; in junky Recon cards it does), there are interfaces and drivers that you don't get with onboard sound.

Edited March 5, 2013 by FMod

[Thor.]

i agree with you, finally someone who understands.

 

yes depending on the software it uses like bitstreaming full dts 7.1 pro logic 2, not all cards do that, mainly do to the limitations of dvd audio.

Also found the pci E version on Amazon on sale, so i picked that up as fast as i could :biggrin: Full hdmi out, the comparison charts on the benchmark page says it uses less cpu around 3.% to 2.5 constantly, the others are off the charts. plus it uses a cleaner power source with a molex connector directly to the psu.

 

Update i am veerrry pleased with it, the output is ten times better then any video or on board sound, its on par with creative when it comes to output, if not better in most cases, especially better driver support and software to go along with it. The hdmi output is great and not to mention has coaxial.

Edited March 24, 2013 by Thor.

[cnerde]

plus it uses a cleaner power source with a molex connector directly to the psu.

That doesn't matter with a DIGITAL signal coming out of your pc.. With an analog card, (3.5 mm out) it would make a difference.

Digital is on or off, so a clean power signal really won't matter, as long as it is working. You were wrong earlier on in this thread.. a lot..

The DAC is in your receiver, that is the limiting factor here.. Any modern Graphics card can support the full HDMI audio profile.. (since 2010-11)

Yes, it may have less issues seeing the receiver and connecting, and you may have an outdated graphics card that can't do 7.1 well, but the quality of the card doesn't matter at all, as it is not doing ANYTHING to the audio. It is just transferring a digital signal from the CPU in the PC to the DAC in you receiver, via HDMI.

CPU->PCI-E Bus-> your stupid card/a graphics card->HDMI cable->receiver, built in sound processing-> DAC->amp->speaker

From the cpu to the dac will be the same either way...

[Thor.]

After all that nonsense i went Coaxial :biggrin:, hdmi needs a always on compliant device for it to work properly. It doesn't matter if you are piping it through a hd receiver, at the other end it still needs hdmi and a always on device.

 

Especially with receivers with one hdmi out, it makes for a troubling problem, you need to get a splitter or a hdmi switcher box. the pass through also requires the pc to be on for it to work properly after all lol. Kind of makes it pointless at times.

Edited July 7, 2013 by Thor.

[Duckman33]

After all that nonsense i went Coaxial :D, hdmi needs a always on compliant device for it to work properly. It doesn't matter if you are piping it through a hd receiver, at the other end it still needs hdmi and a always on device.

 

Especially with receivers with one hdmi out, it makes for a troubling problem, you need to get a splitter or a hdmi switcher box. the pass through also requires the pc to be on for it to work properly after all lol. Kind of makes it pointless at times.

 

Wow, either you are either a complete moron, or one of the better trolls I've ever seen. Everything you've been told is fact, yet you refuse to believe it. I have to believe you aren't this ignorant and are in fact trolling these guys because no-one can be that ignorant.

[JimboUK]

 

After all that nonsense i went Coaxial :D, hdmi needs a always on compliant device for it to work properly. It doesn't matter if you are piping it through a hd receiver, at the other end it still needs hdmi and a always on device.

 

Especially with receivers with one hdmi out, it makes for a troubling problem, you need to get a splitter or a hdmi switcher box. the pass through also requires the pc to be on for it to work properly after all lol. Kind of makes it pointless at times.

 

Wow, either you are either a complete moron, or one of the better trolls I've ever seen. Everything you've been told is fact, yet you refuse to believe it. I have to believe you aren't this ignorant and are in fact trolling these guys because no-one can be that ignorant.

 

 

You're replying to a three year old post from a member who won't see your reply because he's banned.

[GiBGUN]

Sorry to dig up an old post, but this happens to be one of the most relevant threads to my issue i've been able to find online.

 

- My AV receiver sounds fantastic when I use the HDMI out on my GPU, but I experience display lag.

- I've tried going directly to my TV and then using the optical out on my tv to go back to my receiver, but there is a very noticeable difference in sound quality.

- some people have talked about running 2x HDMI cables: one for the TV and one for the AV receiver. The Caveat? You need to be sending video signal to the amp in order to be able to get the sound. As soon as you disconnect the AV receiver as a display device, you won't be able to get sound.

 

This brings me to this thread and trying to get a better understanding of the limitations around an HDMI sound output on a sound card that has HDMI. Can I take an HDMI cable from the sound card to the AV Receiver without the PC detecting the AV receiver as a display? I don't want my GPU sitting there working overtime cloning a display for nothing.

 

Thanks