victoria87543 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 I have these mods acting like DLCs idk, i cant move them away from the top plugin order or move them in LOOT. Are they suppose to be like this?? I dont understand why "Whiterun Forest Borealis" is there or "Realistic Water 2" I need to move them but it wont let me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorKaizeld Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Well I mean why do you need to move them? Considering they are at the top and appear to be restricted to the esm section they can be set lower then they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algabar Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 The file from "Realistic Water Two" is definitely an ESM - which means that it is a master file. Master files HAVE to be loaded before regular plugins. I assume that the other files you mentioned are also flagged as "ESM", although they show the extension .esp, which belongs to normal plugins. Files like these are resource files and are "master files" on purpose. You definitely DON'T need to move them. It is correct that the .esp plugin of Realistic Water Two should be as low as possible in your load order. But that's the .esp plugin - not the .ESM shown in your screenshots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoria87543 Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 Ok i see, and the reason im saying i "needed" to move them is becuase my game does a weird thing with patches and loads better if patches are DIRECTLY next to the mods they need. Why? idk just does lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algabar Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 It's difficult to say something definitive without a load order. Basic rule is that patches MUST be loaded after all plugins they're patching. Usually "after" doesn't mean they need to be loaded directly after the mods that need patching. If patches are that "load order sensitive", there could be conflicts / Interferences between them and other mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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