ArtMurder Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 PLEASE IGNORE THE OTHER THREADS I POSTED IN THE TROUBLESHOOTING FORUM! They really need to let me edit my post title so I don't have to keep making new ones for slightly different issues... Anyways, I was having really bad CTD and T-Pose issues with PCEA, I was informed to uninstall it and FNIS, and install PCEA first, THEN FNIS. I did this, then re-ran BOSS, and the FNIS tool. The result fixed all the issues I was having! BUT - Now PCEA simply doesn't work. All characters in the game now have my animations. Is this a Load Order problem? I ran it through BOSS, but maybe it's something BOSS missed? Maybe I'm putting the animations in the wrong place? The only thing I can think of, is moving "SkyRe Races" ABOVE the PCEA mods,. but I know SkyRe is finicky as hell, and I'm scared to do that. x_x I am installing my Animations here: http://i47.tinypic.com/etfd43.jpg BOSS Recognized Plugins: Skyrim.esm Active Update.esm Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Contains dirty edits: 73 ITM, 1 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. Dawnguard.esm Active Contains dirty edits: 607 ITM, 82 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} HearthFires.esm Active Contains dirty edits: 171 ITM, 11 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. Dragonborn.esm Active Contains dirty edits: 57 ITM, 8 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. ApachiiHair.esm Active ApachiiHairFemales.esm Active ApachiiHairMales.esm Active RaceCompatibility.esm Active ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active Contains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. ETaC - RESOURCES.esm Active Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Active SkyMoMod.esm Active SPIKE.esm Active TERAArmors.esm Active WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm Active Contains dirty edits: 66 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. Hideout.esm Active Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch) HighResTexturePack01.esp Active HighResTexturePack02.esp Active HighResTexturePack03.esp Active Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active QuieterRestorationDrawnSound.esp Active Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp Active Dark Dungeons for Dawnguard.esp Active StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active Economics of Skyrim.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp Active BetterFishAdded.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}} Cannabis.esp Active Catsofskyrim.esp Active Dogsofskyrim.esp Active FishingInSkyrim.esp Active Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp Active Note: Use only one Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One esp. Moss Rocks.esp Active Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0 non glow.esp Active Realistic Wildlife Loot - Reduced.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Note: Use only one Realistic Wildlife Loot - *.esp skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp Active Contains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. SkyMoMod Lore-Friendly Standard.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}} Note: Use only one SkyMoMod Lore esp. Requires: SkyMoMod v10 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Active DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp Active Note: Make sure you have not switched DoF off in your ini file. If you don't see any effect, open you Skyrimprefs.ini and look for 'bDoDepthOfField'. Make sure it is set to 1. Footprints.esp Active IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp Active WetandCold.esp Active SkyUI.esp Active iHUD.esp Active battleflute.esp Active Black Overlord Armor Set.esp Active 1nivWICCloaks.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}} hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} KCEDeathBell.esp Active Lady of Death.esp Active Requires: CBBE female body. Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp Active Remodeled Armor.esp Active Skyhighrim.esp Active ImmersiveArmorsNPCs.esp Active MM_BeluaSangunaireRevisited.esp Active mm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedDialogueFixes.esp Active mm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedLootTables.esp Active mm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedRefuge.esp Active mm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedDGCompatibility.esp Active DeadlyDragons.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} buildablehouse.esp Active Run For Your Lives.esp Active Tundra Defense.esp Active AchieveThat.esp Active Immersive Weapons.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}} masser Size x3.0.esp Active dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active dD-Dawnguard-MonsterMod EBT Patch.esp Active Soul Gems Differ - E.esp Active Spells Cast Light.esp Active The Joy of Perspective.esp Active Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp Active ETaC - Villages Complete.esp Active ExpandedWinterholdRuinsExterior.esp Active Detailed Cities.esp Active RRRE-Lite.esp Active Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. RRRL-ETaC-Villages-Complete-Patch.esp Active ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp Active Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Active Requires: RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp Requires: RND_USKP-Patch.esp RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active RND_ETaC-Patch.esp Active RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp Active RND_SkyMoMod-Patch.esp Active SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp Active ToL_Core_by_Brevi.esp Active ToL_SKSE_by_Brevi.esp Active Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Active ASX_Spells.esp Active MidasSkyrim.esp Active Nature of the beast.esp Active Note: Obsolete. Update to the latest version. ForgottenMastery.esp Active Note: Obsolete. Update to the latest renamed version, ForgottenMagic.esp The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp Active Contains dirty edits: 7 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. SkyRe_Main.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}} Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here. Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf' Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod. Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini: Note: [Actor] Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000 Note: [Combat] Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64 Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64 Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0 Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0 SkyRe_Combat.esp Active SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Active SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Active SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}} SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Active Brows.esp Active dagi_raht_race.esp Active KhajiitChildren.esp KMM_2-1a.esp Active moveitLWT.esp Active Spousetocustomhome.esp Active AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Active Contains dirty edits: 6 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Active PC Exclusive Animation Path - Argonian.esp Active PC Exclusive Animation Path - Breton.esp Active PC Exclusive Animation Path - DarkElf.esp Active PC Exclusive Animation Path - HighElf.esp Active PC Exclusive Animation Path - Imperial.esp Active PC Exclusive Animation Path - Khajiit.esp Active PC Exclusive Animation Path - Nord.esp Active PC Exclusive Animation Path - ORC.esp Active PC Exclusive Animation Path - RedGuard.esp Active PC Exclusive Animation Path - WoodElf.esp Active PC Exclusive Animation Path - 0- Main.esp Active SkyRe_Races.esp Active getSnowy.esp Active WATER.esp Active WATER DB Waves.esp Active Waves.esp Active RND_Water-Patch.esp Active RND_RWLReduced-Patch.esp Active RaceMenu.esp Active RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author. BOSS Unrecognized Plugins paradise_halls_base.esm Active paradise_halls_core.esm Active Dawnguard - TJofP.esp Active hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation - TJofP.esp Active TERAArmors - TJofP.esp Active Lady of Death - TJofP.esp Active RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active PsikoticsSkyMoNecro.esp Active Compatibility Patch - PsiNecroSkyMo with SkyRe.esp Active paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp Active paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp Active Load Order (manually sorting unrecognized plugins) Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm RaceCompatibility.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm ETaC - RESOURCES.esm Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm SkyMoMod.esm SPIKE.esm TERAArmors.esm WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm paradise_halls_base.esm paradise_halls_core.esm Hideout.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Chesko_Frostfall.esp QuieterRestorationDrawnSound.esp Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp Dark Dungeons for Dawnguard.esp StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Economics of Skyrim.esp 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp BetterFishAdded.esp Cannabis.esp Catsofskyrim.esp Dogsofskyrim.esp FishingInSkyrim.esp Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp Moss Rocks.esp Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0 non glow.esp Realistic Wildlife Loot - Reduced.esp skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp SkyMoMod Lore-Friendly Standard.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp Footprints.esp IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp WetandCold.esp SkyUI.esp iHUD.esp battleflute.esp Black Overlord Armor Set.esp 1nivWICCloaks.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp KCEDeathBell.esp Lady of Death.esp Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp Remodeled Armor.esp Skyhighrim.esp ImmersiveArmorsNPCs.esp paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp MM_BeluaSangunaireRevisited.esp mm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedDialogueFixes.esp mm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedLootTables.esp mm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedRefuge.esp mm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedDGCompatibility.esp DeadlyDragons.esp buildablehouse.esp Run For Your Lives.esp Tundra Defense.esp AchieveThat.esp Immersive Weapons.esp masser Size x3.0.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Dawnguard-MonsterMod EBT Patch.esp Soul Gems Differ - E.esp Spells Cast Light.esp The Joy of Perspective.esp Dawnguard - TJofP.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation - TJofP.esp TERAArmors - TJofP.esp Lady of Death - TJofP.esp Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp ETaC - Villages Complete.esp ExpandedWinterholdRuinsExterior.esp Detailed Cities.esp RRRE-Lite.esp RRRL-ETaC-Villages-Complete-Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp RND_ETaC-Patch.esp RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp RND_SkyMoMod-Patch.esp SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp ToL_Core_by_Brevi.esp ToL_SKSE_by_Brevi.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp ASX_Spells.esp MidasSkyrim.esp Nature of the beast.esp ForgottenMastery.esp PsikoticsSkyMoNecro.esp The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp SkyRe_Main.esp SkyRe_Combat.esp SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Compatibility Patch - PsiNecroSkyMo with SkyRe.esp Brows.esp dagi_raht_race.esp KMM_2-1a.esp moveitLWT.esp Spousetocustomhome.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - Argonian.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - Breton.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - DarkElf.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - HighElf.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - Imperial.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - Khajiit.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - Nord.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - ORC.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - RedGuard.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - WoodElf.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - 0- Main.esp SkyRe_Races.esp getSnowy.esp WATER.esp WATER DB Waves.esp Waves.esp RND_Water-Patch.esp RND_RWLReduced-Patch.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShimoOkami Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 PCEA is incompatible with anything that edits the vanilla races, so it won't work with SkyRe unless you fix this in the CK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtMurder Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 PCEA is incompatible with anything that edits the vanilla races, so it won't work with SkyRe unless you fix this in the CK.But I've ALWAYS had SkyRe and it's worked before? Also, BOSS doesn't list them as incompatible? How would I go about changing it? I would think I could just disabled SkyRe Races, but I want to keep the changes it makes. Also, moving SkyRe races to ABOVE PCEA just makes me CTD on load every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShimoOkami Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 What do you mean when you say SkyRe has worked before? Do you mean it used to work with PCEA? Also, I'm not too familliar with BOSS since I don't use it myself, but this does seem like something that BOSS should be able to detect. You should be able to make these mods compatible by either changing the animation paths for the SkyRe races to use the PCEA folders or editing the PCEA races to include the changes made by SkyRe. I'm not sure if this would actually work since you're getting CTDs when PCEA is loaded after SkyRe. I might have to take a closer look at these mods tomorrow, or rather, later today since it's 2AM right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtMurder Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 What do you mean when you say SkyRe has worked before? Do you mean it used to work with PCEA? Also, I'm not too familliar with BOSS since I don't use it myself, but this does seem like something that BOSS should be able to detect. You should be able to make these mods compatible by either changing the animation paths for the SkyRe races to use the PCEA folders or editing the PCEA races to include the changes made by SkyRe. I'm not sure if this would actually work since you're getting CTDs when PCEA is loaded after SkyRe. I might have to take a closer look at these mods tomorrow, or rather, later today since it's 2AM right now.Yes that's what I meant. Before I did the reinstall, PCEA was working great, minus the CTDs. I tried to fix the CTDs and started having the T-Pose glitch. I'll look into editing SkyRe Races, I'm not about to edit 11 different ESPs. xP BOSS and TES5EDIT normally report an error or conflict if there is one (TES5EDIT normally gets missing esps/esms, etc) and both of them come back squeaky clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korun Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 AFT use is own animation may be the conflict come from this modASX too, for EX AP isn't working at all with PCEAin fact i didn't find that PCEA works good with anything at last even you run FNIS, always glitch and ctd's, so i del the folder and evering was fine, no more Tpose or ctd @@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtMurder Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 AFT use is own animation may be the conflict come from this modASX too, for EX AP isn't working at all with PCEAin fact i didn't find that PCEA works good with anything at last even you run FNIS, always glitch and ctd's, so i del the folder and evering was fine, no more Tpose or ctd @@Hmm, AFT is something pretty recent I installed, I'll look into it. I've had ASX for a while, I have to do the load-a-vanilla-then-custom-race work around, but it works. Also, try installing PCEA FIRST then FNIS, this fixes the CTD and T-Pose glitches for most people. I fixed those issues, but something else is now conflicting with PCEA, making it not work. I'm assuming it's SkyRe races. I'll get around to deactivating it and see if that makes PCEA work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AH1 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 As of today, PCEA is not longer working for me either. I suspect an update to a mod we both use might be the problem, however I am not sure which one. If you figure anything out, please make sure to let us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShimoOkami Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 So PCEA used to work with SkyRe, huh? In that case you should probably ignore what I said earlier since I have no idea how that would work. :I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtMurder Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 AH1: What mods do you share in common with me? ShimoOkami: It worked before, but like I said, I got CTDs and T-Pose bugs. But again, that was SUPPOSEDLY caused by installing FNIS before PCEA. I don't know, I'm really stumped. I didn't even re-download PCEA or anything, I've been using the same zip file since forever(it's the most up to date one though). I downloaded the newest version of FNIS though, which was suppose to work BETTER with PCEA, but maybe ITS clashing with SkyRe somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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