again and again freezes :(

[jones81]

Hey guys, I have long been a small problem that sucks after long play sessions, sometimes short Skyrim crashes and freezed.

 

My little old maschine: AMD Phenom II X4 940 Processor at 3 Ghz

8 Gb DDR2 Ram

Radeon HD 5870 1Gb VRam

all runs with Win7 64bit Ultimate

 

All Textures i have optimized at 2k and i use the Optimization Mod and the Far of ENB ( only once in passing, its the best for now :cool: )

 

Anyway......i don´t now what is the fault and i hope someone can help.

 

Mfg Jones

[vlaka]

what mods are you running and are they in the correct load order?

Have you tried playing without the optimisation mod?

 

Run tes5edit and see what results you get ie: any errors etc :)

Edited March 15, 2013 by vlaka

[jones81]

Good Morning Vlaka, yes i try all of it except playing without mods :confused:

Ahh i forgot to say that i play the beta version 1.9.29.0, maybe thats the cause.

 

Did anybody here have practical knowledge with this version and mods ?

 

 

So here my loadorder

 

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
SPIKE.esm
Omegared99-Compilation.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization - Dawnguard.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization - Dragonborn.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
LordOfWar_TW2.esp
realcitiessolitude.esp
FixedEyeAdaption.esp
scaryskyrim.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Witch Elf Armour.esp
Blackout_Skyrim.esp
City Trees & Plants Lush.esp
Markarth_plus.esp
RealisticWaterTextures.esp
IHSS.esp
KillAnimationAlways.esp
detailed rugs.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
SkyrimChimneys.esp
Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp
Sundys_Male_Presets.esp
barber2.esp
Supreme Fog.esp
Beards.esp
LovelyHairstylesLITE.esp
AzarHair.esp
WeaponsOf3E.esp
Hell Sword.esp
CrainteVomir.esp
isilNarsil.esp
Clanking Armor.esp
Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp
OreynBearclaw.esp
HuntressArmor.esp
Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp
XAC.esp
hectrol caves deluxe highres retex 2k version.esp
Dead Body Collision.esp
MoreRainWindy66percentLessView.esp
black knight.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
SolitudeCapitalCity.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
Morning Fogs.esp
Skyhighrim.esp
ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Cities - Falkreath.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp
Footprints.esp
CandlelightShadow.esp
CandlelightToggleDefault.esp
Crimson Tide - Blood.esp
Elemental Staves.esp
BlockSparkles.esp
Cloaks.esp
randomthunder.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
Rainbows.esp
ShootingStars.esp
GreenWaterFixForWATER.esp
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
TemptressVixen.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
NoEyeAdaptation - Climates of Tamriel.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
alvor's house dynamic.esp
MoreForests.esp
Moss Rocks.esp
RealShelter.esp
Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp
HearthFires Toys.esp
SkyRe_Main.esp
SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
SkyRe_Combat.esp
SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
Purchasable Items for Dragonborn.esp
Better Forests and Environments.esp
WetandCold.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
Distant DetailHF.esp
Oblivion Gates v3 - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp
Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp
SkyRe_Races.esp
SkyUI.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
ApachiiHairStyles.esp
ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp
BWS.esp
secunda Size x3.0.esp
secunda Size x2.5.esp
secunda Size x2.0.esp
secunda Size x1.5.esp
secunda Size x1.4.esp
secunda Size x1.3.esp
secunda Size x1.2.esp
secunda Size x1.1.esp
secunda Size x0.9.esp
secunda Size x0.8.esp
secunda Size x0.7.esp
secunda Size x0.6.esp
secunda Size x0.5.esp
masser Size x3.0.esp
masser Size x2.5.esp
masser Size x2.0.esp
masser Size x1.5.esp
masser Size x1.4.esp
masser Size x1.3.esp
masser Size x1.2.esp
masser Size x1.1.esp
masser Size x0.9.esp
masser Size x0.8.esp
masser Size x0.7.esp
masser Size x0.6.esp
masser Size x0.5.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
OLSE.esp
Purewaters.esp
PurewatersDG.esp
PurewatersDB.esp
RLO_Torches_Flicker.esp
Skyrim bigger trees.esp
IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp

[korun]

is it the real load order? if yes all the Uesp patch must be just after SPO , DL BOSS and ré organize your Lo

 

then may be it's the beta may be not, do you have any problems before?

you are probably sometimes out of vram in certain places, try to optimize your text less than 2k

 

Skyrim bigger tree is really taxing, try the lite version

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp + Crimson Tide - Blood.esp ? they have the same purpose and i'm sure they are not compatible

Try Sfo Basic, it is the lite version of Skyrim flora

 

Last i'm using project Enb and NoEyeAdaptation - Climates of Tamriel.esp is no more required, so check if you need it for your Enb

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[jones81]

So here is my new loadorder and some BOSS fixed files. COT is off only the .esm file needs to be on.

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
Omegared99-Compilation.esm
SPIKE.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization - Dawnguard.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization - Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
MoreRainWindy66percentLessView.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
Morning Fogs.esp
Rainbows.esp
Supreme Fog.esp
BWS.esp
Clanking Armor.esp
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
randomthunder.esp
alvor's house dynamic.esp
OLSE.esp
scaryskyrim.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp
BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp
Dead Body Collision.esp
Moss Rocks.esp
Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp
Oblivion Gates v3 - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
RealShelter.esp
Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp
ShootingStars.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Footprints.esp
IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp
WetandCold.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
SkyUI.esp
Cloaks.esp
CrainteVomir.esp
Elemental Staves.esp
Hell Sword.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
HuntressArmor.esp
LordOfWar_TW2.esp
Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp
OreynBearclaw.esp
Skyhighrim.esp
WeaponsOf3E.esp
WeaponsOf3E - No Leveled Lists.esp
Witch Elf Armour.esp
XAC.esp
barber2.esp
Markarth_plus.esp
realcitiessolitude.esp
SBT Smal3.esp
SBT Smal2.esp
SBT Smal1.esp
SkyrimChimneys.esp
SolitudeCapitalCity.esp
BlockSparkles.esp
Distant DetailHF.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
masser Size x0.5.esp
masser Size x1.4.esp
masser Size x0.8.esp
masser Size x0.7.esp
masser Size x0.9.esp
masser Size x1.1.esp
masser Size x1.5.esp
masser Size x0.6.esp
masser Size x1.3.esp
masser Size x2.0.esp
masser Size x2.5.esp
masser Size x1.2.esp
masser Size x3.0.esp
Riften Bigger Trees.esp
SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
secunda Size x1.4.esp
secunda Size x1.1.esp
secunda Size x0.9.esp
secunda Size x0.7.esp
secunda Size x0.6.esp
secunda Size x2.0.esp
secunda Size x0.5.esp
secunda Size x1.5.esp
secunda Size x1.3.esp
secunda Size x2.5.esp
secunda Size x3.0.esp
secunda Size x1.2.esp
secunda Size x0.8.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp
Better Forests and Environments.esp
MoreForests.esp
NoEyeAdaptation - Climates of Tamriel.esp
CandlelightToggleDefault.esp
CandlelightShadow.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp
ApachiiHairStyles.esp
ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp
Beards.esp
LovelyHairstylesLITE.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
TemptressVixen.esp
Sundys_Male_Presets.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
Purewaters.esp
PurewatersDG.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
PurewatersDB.esp
City Trees & Plants Lush.esp
IHSS.esp
KillAnimationAlways.esp
detailed rugs.esp
AzarHair.esp
hectrol caves deluxe highres retex 2k version.esp
black knight.esp
ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Cities - Falkreath.esp
HearthFires Toys.esp
Purchasable Items for Dragonborn.esp
SolstheimArmorRetex.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities & Town Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
RLO - Adaptive Interiors Vanilla Weathers Patch.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - 3.5 Dawnguard Weathers.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - 3.5 Weathers.esp

 

and in the notes is the BOSS log.

 

So now i play a little bit to search for more frezzes or maybe not :P

 

THX korun for your tip :biggrin:

 

 

[Vulon]

Just chiming in here, but aren't the RLO files supposed to be much higher in the load order? I seem to remember reading that somewhere. I don't remember, and I just briefly glanced at the mod's page and I'm not seeing it mentioned...but I could swear it's supposed to be loaded earlier. I have mine loaded right after the unofficial patches.

[jones81]

Hmm your statement is not really wrong, i test it yet.

I do it because korun write down that this maybe can the cause of it.

TES5 Edit says it´s ok.

 

Thats the right load order for RLO

 

Player Home mods
Unofficial Skyrim Patches
RLO - Occlusion Culling Performance.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities & Towns Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Adaptive Interiors Vanilla Weathers Patch
Realistic Lighting Overhaul- Dawnguard Weathers.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul Weathers.esp

 

 

I forgot to say, it happens always when i fast travel :(

Edited March 15, 2013 by jones81

[Vulon]

Can you provide a papyrus log? That might shed some light on whatever the problem is.

[jones81]

Ähhh do you mean a Win7 log fault ....what ever data ??

 

I got this for now, i hope its the right.

 

- System

- Provider

[ Name] Application Hang

- EventID 1002

[ Qualifiers] 0

Level 2 Task 101 Keywords 0x80000000000000 - TimeCreated

[ SystemTime] 2013-03-14T21:45:22.000000000Z

EventRecordID 33380 Channel Application Computer Klapperkiste Security

- EventData

TESV.exe 1.9.29.0 1bb4 01ce20f61959eb14 364 C:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\TESV.exe 55006E006B006E006F0077006E0000000000

Binäre Daten:

In Wörtern

0000: 006E0055 006E006B 0077006F 0000006E
0008: 0000

In Bytes

0000: 55 00 6E 00 6B 00 6E 00 U.n.k.n.
0008: 6F 00 77 00 6E 00 00 00 o.w.n...
0010: 00 00 ..

[korun]

RLO - Occlusion Culling Performance.esp : this is obsolete if you use SPO, in fact, it's exactly the same mod except SPO is more developped by one of the modder from RLO team

 

then if you use COT, RLO weather, which are old now, are also not required anymore, put all RLO file before better dynamic snow they are really to low in the load order

 

try also to disable auto save on travel + the ENB before fast travel,

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