Brawl bugs

[Laundrydetergent]

I'm not sure what is causing the problem but my option to brawl anyone is gone completely. I've turned every mod off then tried to brawl but still nothing does anyone know a fix for this? Besides The Brawl Bug Patch http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/24020 Because it doesn't fix the problems i'm having.

Edited March 17, 2013 by Laundrydetergent

[Georgiegril]

Can you list your BOSS log?

[Laundrydetergent]

I don't use BOSS but i'm now trying to install it then i'll post the order.

[Laundrydetergent]

Should ASIS cause this problem?

[Laundrydetergent]

Ok my load order is

• Skyrim.esm Active
• Update.esm Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
• Dawnguard.esm Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
• ApachiiHair.esm Active
• SPIKE.esm Active
• WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm Active
• HighResTexturePack01.esp Active
• HighResTexturePack02.esp Active
• HighResTexturePack03.esp Active
• Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
• Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
• Economics of Skyrim.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
• Arrowsmith.esp Active
• Better Alchemy Loot.esp Active
• Console Books.esp Active
• CookingExpanded.esp Active
• SabreFurBag.esp Active
• SkyUI.esp Active
• Doomshard Bow.esp Active
• For the Brotherhood Daggers.esp Active
• hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
• Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp Active
• Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp Active
• Dr_Bandolier.esp Active
• Lock Overhaul.esp Active
• DeadlyDragons.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
• Breezehome_FullyUpgradable.esp Active
• LevelersTower.esp Active
• When Vampires Attack.esp Active
• Lightweight Potions and Poisons.esp Active
• Immersive Weapons.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
• ImprovedScImpUniforms - Main.esp Active
  • Requires: WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esp
• ImprovedScImpUniforms - WARZONES only.esp Active
  • Requires: WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esp
  • Incompatible with: ImprovedScImpUniforms - Main.esp
• MoreTraining_50.esp Active
• More Salt Please.esp Active
• RichMerchants.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
• UnreadBooksGlow.esp Active
• Usable lantern.esp Active
• dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Active
  • Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.
• RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Active
• RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active
• RND_USKP-Patch.esp Active
• UnblockActivate.esp Active
• Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Active
• ASX_Spells.esp Active
• dovahkiinrelax.esp Active
• DisableAutoAim.esp Active
• DragonCombatOverhaul.esp Active
• The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp Active
• SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Active
• SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Active
• SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
• EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp Active
• UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active
  • Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.
• UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Active
• CMBoethiahSacrifice.esp Active
• Cooking Expanded - RND Support.esp Active
• Bashed Patch, 0.esp Active

[Georgiegril]

Well you need to deactivate one of your improvedscimpuniforms, according to BOSS, but I'm guessing that isn't the cause of your problem.

I have UFO, and I know it can cause dialog issues if it is not updated or installed (or uninstalled) properly, of if it is changed in the middle of a game. So that might be related, but it is by no means for certain.

Also, Skyre has far-reaching affects. I could not find a specific mention of it's compatibility with Warzones, but I would also definitely investigate a possible mod conflict between those.

There is a mention in the UESP wiki, that if you brawl with the stable guy in Markarth, but do not defeat him, it will prevent any brawl with anyone in the future. Not sure if that applies to your situation, but if so, you may need to revert to a save before that fight.

Finally, you might try pulling up the NPCs that brawl in the Creation kit and check to make sure they have the faction for brawling enabled(favor017questgiverfaction) , or use the getfaction console command).

I haven't looked at the CK on this in depth, but I suspect if their disposition was not set to 1, and they were not flagged as a quest giver, they might not give you the brawl dialog.

Sorry I hope something there helps!

[Laundrydetergent]

Yes, none of them were set to brawl. So now i ask of you what i hope will be the fix to this. HOW!...do i set the NPCs rank to 1 so they can brawl?

[Laundrydetergent]

Never mind. It turns out it was UFO. I had to use the firefly in the game to uninstal then update. Thank you very much for your suggestions and help. Much appreciated!