TheWeekendSlice Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Hi everyone,I wanted to stream my playthrough of Fallout New Vegas on Twitch, but I am concerned about the licensed music playing on stream as it can get my channel completely banned.I know you can disable the pip-boy radio, but there are still radios located in the environment/levels of the game that still play the licensed music.Is there any way these radios can be disabled?Or a way to replace the licensed music? (I haven't yet found a mod that allows me to do this AND works, I found one, but it doesn't work). I also saw this mod for Fallout 4: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/26095?tab=description&BH=0Basically I am hoping that someone can do this for Fallout New Vegas as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubiousintent Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Recommend you check with Twitch. Licensed music being played FROM the game itself that appears in your stream should not be a problem. (If you think about it, everything you are streaming from a game is "copyright protected or used under license" by the game publisher: dialog, voices, art assets, sound effects, etc..) The intent of that rule is aimed at people who ADD copyright protected music WITHOUT a "performance" license specific to themselves to their videos. But clarifying with Twitch support is the only safe thing to do. -Dubious- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeekendSlice Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) Unfortunately that's not how it works. The game studios license music and sometimes sounds for use in their games with a license that covers ONLY the player playing the game on his own, NOT sharing it in a public display (which streaming on Twitch or creating YouTube videos is). If you want to use copywritten music/sounds in your streams/videos you need to purchase a license that will allow you to publicly share that content, when you buy a game YOU DO NOT get such a license and the game studio/publisher DOES NOT pay for a such a license when they pay to include copywritten music/sounds in their games.For example Control by Remedy Software and Cyberpunk 2077 by CDProjectRED are 2 games that I know of that have an option in the menu to disable licensed music and replace it with music that is safe for streaming/YouTube.People on Twitch have gotten copyright strikes for in game music (for example Alan Wake contains a lot of licensed music = music that is now owned by the game studio) and for in game sounds (the ambulance sound in GTA V got people strikes).If you get 3 strikes, you channel is banned/closed. People on Twitter have gotten a warning or even their accounts disabled for including copywritten music in videos embedded in their tweets, the detection on Twitter works at the millisecond level. YouTube works differently, you can create a video that contains music/sounds for which you don't own the rights or the license to publicly share them, but then your video will get flagged by the copyright owners and they will get every single cent generated by your video. However, there's a very good chance that you channel won't get banned. The Fallout 3/New Vegas/4 radio music IS NOT LICENSED for public display which means it will get flagged by Twitch/YouTube and on Twitch there is a very good chance that you're channel will get a strike against it. 3 strikes and you channel is gone.This is not Twitch's fault as they have to comply from a legal perspective with the requirements of the music industry. Period.What Twitch could do (and so far only Facebook Gaming and TikTock have done) is to pay out of pocket themselves for a music license that would cover as much of the music industry as possible and the license would have to be applicable worldwide as Twitch streamers and viewers are from all over the world. However, such a license is MASSIVELY EXPENSIVE so I doubt Twitch can afford it as they overall generate considerably, MASSIVELY less profit than Facebook or Google. Oh and by the way, Twitch has already issued a statement in which they advised people to not play copywritten/licensed music and sounds on stream. They even went so far as to recommend people stream music with the music disabled.This is down to the music industry who have very capable detection bots that immediately detect if your stream contains copywritten music/sounds.At the moment the detection works mostly only for VODs (recorded videos), but pretty soon the detection will also work for livestreamed content (so the detection will happen while the video is livestreamed and before a recording of it is saved). Let's not get into the topic that streamers (myself included) or YouTube video creators don't own a license to create public content from the games themselves. Some studios publicly allow content creation based on their games, some studios issue permissions to content creators, but most studios allow content creation because it's good marketing in spite of the fact that by law one would need to PURCHASE a license for publicly sharing the game. Trust me, I've done the homework. Edited January 18, 2021 by TheWeekendSlice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeekendSlice Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 So with the help of forum user audiocd I managed to replace the music in Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas for the radios (both pip-boy and environmental radios) with stream safe music.I also did the same for Fallout 4 (in addition to using the mod for Fallout 4 that disables environmental radios) More info here: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/9516493-mod-to-disable-the-radios-that-are-located-in-the-levelsenvironment/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubiousintent Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Thanks for the clarification, and the link. I've added it as "TIP Music OFF while Streaming" to the "Music and Sounds" section of the wiki "Getting started creating mods using GECK" article. Hopefully it will save someone else from getting strikes or banned. -Dubious- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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