StealthicKhaos Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I'm going to list two computer specs below. (One cheaper to make than the other) It would mean a lot for someone to take the time to read this! First one (Less Expensive)Processor: 7.9Memory: 7.9Graphics: 7.3Gaming Graphics: 7.3Primary Hard Disk: 5.9 (Standard Score)Features:AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8350FRHKBOXSilicon Power 8GB (1 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model SP016GBLTU133N22GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-S2P AM3+ AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD MotherboardEVGA 01G-P3-1450-RX GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video CardSeagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" SATA II Hard DriveSAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE - OEMRocketfish 500 Watts 80 Plus Bronze Certified Modular Power Supply (RF-500WPS2)LOGISYS Computer CLK12RD2 12" DUAL RED COLD CATHODE KIT - OEM (RED)COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1 Black Steel / Plastic Computer CaseOperation System Microsoft Windows 8 Pro 64Bit (PRE-INSTALLED & activated)The Specs:AMD FX 8350 Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284&Tpk=amd%208350Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168131285041GB GDDR5 Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130640Power Supply: http://www.rocketfishproducts.com/products/computer-accessories/RF-500WPS2.htmlMemory 8GB (1x8GB) DDR3 1333mhz: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820301088500GB Hard Drive: http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Pipeline-5900RPM-Internal-ST3500312CS/dp/tech-data/B002CMOH26/ref=de_a_smtdDVD+r DL Burner: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244Light Kit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811994003&Tpk=LOGISYS%20Computer%20CLK12RD2%2012%22%20DUAL%20RED%20COLD%20CATHODCase: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119227&Tpk=coolermaster%20elite%20430 Second One: Processor: 7.9Memory: 7.9Graphics: 8.0Gaming Graphics: 8.0Primary Hard Disk: 7.8 Features:AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8350FRHKBOXZALMAN CNPS5X Performa 92mm FSB (Fluid Shield Bearing) Powerful Cooling Performance CPU CoolerG.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL11D-8GBSRASUS Crosshair IV Formula AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD MotherboardXFX Core Edition FX-787A-CNFC Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video CardOCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-60G 2.5" 60GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare DriveSAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE - OEMAntec NEO ECO 520C 520W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power SupplyLogisys CLK12BG2 12" Cold Cathode Case Lights - 2-Pack w/Power Switch (Blue/Green)Fractal Design Arc Mini Black High Performance PC Computer Case w/ USB 3.0 and 3 Fractal Design Silent FansOperation System Microsoft Windows 8 Pro 64 BitThe Specs:AMD FX 8350 Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284&Tpk=amd%208350CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118128&Tpk=ZALMAN%20CNPS5XMotherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168131316442GB GDDR5 Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150604Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030Memory 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 2133mhz: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682023151960GB SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168202279251TB Hard Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822149382DVD+r DL Burner: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244Light Kit: http://www.evertek.com/viewpart.asp?auto=68772&cat=8#.UTdQ7CQo6UkCase: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352008&Tpk=fractal%20arc%20computer%20case I want to run Skyrim and New Vegas on this computer. Both at the highest quality with ENBs and little lag result. Thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoofhearted4 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 the 400 series of GPUs came in right before i started getting into computers, so im not sure how well they handle. that said i do not think a 450 can run Skyrim at High/Ultra. its an older GPU now and at the low end of the line at that. if it was a 480 or something wed be having a different discussion..sorta. the 7870 in the second rig is much much better. runs cooler and quiter (the 400 series are notorious for running loud and hot) not to mention its a newer series car and a good mid range one at that. i think the 7870 will run Skyrim at at least Hight settings. plus it has the extra GB of VRAM, which will be handy when you start running ENBs and texture packs and whatnot. The second PC also has an Antec PSU, which i would trust more through the Brand name over Rocketfish, which i havent heard of (if its popular outside of the US I wouldnt know). The RAM in the second Rig is also OCed RAM. though if you dont know how to use the BIOS, the RAM will most likely run at 1333Mhz anyways, because youd have to OC it up to 2133Mhz for it to work in most cases. and to top it off, a nice 60gb SSD for your OS will be very very nice. however, imo, i would see about getting Windows 7 x64 if you can. ive only used Windows 8 a little bit, but i personally dont like it. but this is just a personal preference. and i also like the Case in the 2nd rig better too. again personal preference. I personally have the Arc Midi (bigger brother to the Mini, which is the case for the 2nd rig) and i love it. that said, the Case for the first PC is a highly recommend case as well. you dont list how much of a price gap these two are, nor your budget. im assuming since you are considering both, that you could afford both. so with that said, i would absolutely recommend the 2nd rig over the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthicKhaos Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 the 400 series of GPUs came in right before i started getting into computers, so im not sure how well they handle. that said i do not think a 450 can run Skyrim at High/Ultra. its an older GPU now and at the low end of the line at that. if it was a 480 or something wed be having a different discussion..sorta. the 7870 in the second rig is much much better. runs cooler and quiter (the 400 series are notorious for running loud and hot) not to mention its a newer series car and a good mid range one at that. i think the 7870 will run Skyrim at at least Hight settings. plus it has the extra GB of VRAM, which will be handy when you start running ENBs and texture packs and whatnot. The second PC also has an Antec PSU, which i would trust more through the Brand name over Rocketfish, which i havent heard of (if its popular outside of the US I wouldnt know). The RAM in the second Rig is also OCed RAM. though if you dont know how to use the BIOS, the RAM will most likely run at 1333Mhz anyways, because youd have to OC it up to 2133Mhz for it to work in most cases. and to top it off, a nice 60gb SSD for your OS will be very very nice. however, imo, i would see about getting Windows 7 x64 if you can. ive only used Windows 8 a little bit, but i personally dont like it. but this is just a personal preference. and i also like the Case in the 2nd rig better too. again personal preference. I personally have the Arc Midi (bigger brother to the Mini, which is the case for the 2nd rig) and i love it. that said, the Case for the first PC is a highly recommend case as well. you dont list how much of a price gap these two are, nor your budget. im assuming since you are considering both, that you could afford both. so with that said, i would absolutely recommend the 2nd rig over the first.Thank you very much for your reply! I would really prefer Windows 7 as well. I hate Windows 8.Thank you again! I will definitely buy the second computer. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoofhearted4 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 not to mention twice the space in HDD in the second rig. 500GB can fill up fast with Steam. mine is almost 300GB and i know i dont have the largest collection (though i am proud of it haha) and thats not counting Music, Movies, and all the other programs and non Steam games you have. that and i didnt even look at the Mobos. the Crosshair IV Formula in the second rig is a top rated mobo. the first mobo, is only a Micro ATX board. which for all intents and purposes doesnt effect game performance or anything, but the Asus board comes with more PCIe slots which could potentially mean another GPU down the road or soundcard or whatever. that and the color scheme is cooler haha. though ironically, the mobo in the first one is blue with red cathodes. the mobo in the second is red/black with blue/green cathodes. horrible mix match. but the Arc Mini doesnt have a window anyways so this whole color coordination wont even matter lol. but anyways, im glad i could help and it looks like you made your choice (a good one) so best of luck to you and i hope you enjoy your new PC! :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan3345 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 The second computer is deffinitely better.. Rocketfish is a horrible brand and something to avoid. Their power supplies are rated at say 500watts. What they don't advertise (clearly) is that all that means is the PSU can peak at 500 watts, it cannot sustain it for long. Corsair PSU's for example are rated based on the wattage they can continuously sustain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blove Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Are those WEI scores and if so how do you get an 8.0?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualBlack Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I believe the WEI was extended with Windows 8. You can only achieve 7.9 on windows 7, not that the Windows benchmark means anything as you will score 7.9 as long as you have a ssd and I really doubt it uses more than one graphics card for the 'gaming performance' section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMod Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 It's been rescaled in Win 8 to a 1-9.9 scale. Apparently a half-baked OS that needs two UI for the job of one is far too massive an improvement in user experience to keep the old scale. WEI doesn't mean anything at all, except maybe a first glance gauge for complete newbies on whether a PC is old or very old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoofhearted4 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 i have read that running WEI on a PC can help it discover your equipment and peripherals if it couldnt find them. i run it on any new PC i set up just for poops and giggles. a sort of "Scan the System" if you will. ive never run into a problem where running the WEI has discovered a PnP device or anything, but i have read of people running it and it working for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blove Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Ahh, I expected them to add to the scale without moving the baseline...disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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