What makes a Weapon have unlimited Ammo (for Player)?

[PJMail]

I originally thought it was setting the "ammo" to None, but I came across an in-game weapon that has a valid Ammo yet consumes no Ammo when used by the player. The only "major" difference between it and a regular version of the weapon is it is set to "non-playable" and "undroppable" (but it is given to the player via a script). Do all 'unplayable' weapons have infinite ammo? Seems like an odd thing for Bethesda to do, or am I missing something?

 

Weapon is Minigun_Vertibird compared to a standard Minigun. I am trying to make it consume the Player's 5mm Ammo but it refuses to.

 

Edit: Just confirmed that - overiding the record and just removing the unplayable flag now make it use player ammo. How annoying as that flag can't be changed via script...

Edited January 22, 2021 by PJMail

[PJMail]

One other interesting thing. "Unplayable" makes it act for the Player the same way NPC 'default' weapons do - you only need 1 of the required ammo for the infinite ammo effect.

If you have zero ammo you get one shot only.

[Davex1234]

I've managed to do it by setting ammo to none, ammo capacity to 0, and using a projectile override to make it fire the right stuff, but then it doesn't get the impact graphics right and won't work with VATS. I'll have to try your flag trick!

[PJMail]

That works if you want infinite capacity on a standard weapon that normally doesn't.

I had a standard weapon I DIDN'T want infinite capacity - but it did have.

 

So yeah - the 'unplayerable' flag seems to act like what you did (remove the ammo settings) but without the corresponding issues.

The negative is you can't see it in the inventory - and you have to be given it via script etc.

Edited January 26, 2021 by PJMail