Need help with Oblivion random CTD

[Syntextoxy]

Greetings and salutations.

So lately The Wife and I had a craving to play some Oblivion so I downloaded it and installed some mods.

I in the past managed to have the game stable with over 100 mods yet this time am getting random CTD's with about 50-60 mods.

I haven't noticed any pattern to the CTD's and that's my problem. So I decided to post here to see if anyone could help or had such issues also,

as such any help is much obligated.

I have additional plugins nvac, stutter remover, MenuQue, blockhead, OCOv2, upscaled textures for base game and SI combined with really textured normal maps and I applied the 4gb ram patcher, cleaned all the mods and am using the Cyrodiil ENB.

 

Load order:

0 0 Oblivion.esm

1 1 BetterMusicSystem.esm

2 2 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

3 3 Armamentarium.esm

4 4 Knights - Revelation.esm

5 5 All Natural Base.esm

6 6 Better Cities Resources.esm

7 7 RealisticLeveling.esm

8 8 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

9 9 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

10 a UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

11 b DLCShiveringIsles.esp

12 c Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

13 d Better Cities .esp

14 e DLCHorseArmor.esp

15 f DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

16 10 DLCOrrery.esp

17 11 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

18 12 DLCVileLair.esp

19 13 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

20 14 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

21 15 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

22 16 DLCSpellTomes.esp

23 17 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

24 18 DLCThievesDen.esp

25 19 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

26 1a DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

27 1b DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

28 1c DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

29 1d DLCFrostcrag.esp

30 1e DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

31 1f Knights.esp

32 20 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

33 21 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

34 22 OOOExtended.esp

35 23 ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp

36 24 OOOShiveringIsles.esp

37 25 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp

38 26 Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp

39 27 All Natural.esp

40 28 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

41 29 Knights - Revelation.esp

42 2a Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp

43 2b Grass Overhaul.esp

44 2c ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp

45 2d OCO_UOP_USIP_Patch.esp

46 2e Immersive Weapons.esp

47 2f Alternative Beginnings.esp

48 30 Alternative Beginnings - Kvatch Intact.esp

49 31 Immersive Interiors.esp

50 32 1em_Vilja.esp

51 33 1em_Vilja OCOv2 Alternative.esp

52 34 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp

53 35 BetterMusicSystem(SI).esp

54 36 Auto Attempt Lock Picking.esp

55 37 Reznod_Mannequin.esp

56 38 CapesandCloaks.esp

57 39 Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp

58 3a MidasSpells.esp

59 3b P1DkeyChain.esp

60 3c Vvardenfell_Imports.esp

61 3d Harvest [Flora].esp

62 3e Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

63 3f Kart Hair Replace v01.esp

64 40 LootMenu.esp

65 41 Rogue Battlemage Armor.esp

66 42 Symphony of Violence.esp

67 43 All Natural - SI.esp

68 44 UnleveledQuestRewards.esp

69 45 EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp

70 46 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp

71 47 Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

72 48 EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp

73 49 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

74 4a Better Cities Chorrol - Immersive Interiors.esp

75 4b DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp

76 4c Enhanced Economy.esp

77 4d Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Adaptation.esp

78 4e More Effective Enchantments.esp

79 4f OCO_DLCHorseArmor_Patch.esp

80 50 OCO_DLCMehrunesRazor_Patch.esp

81 51 OCO_DLCOrrery_Patch.esp

82 52 OCO_DLCThievesDen_Patch.esp

83 53 OCO_KnightsOTN_Patch.esp

84 54 OCO_KvatchRebuilt_Patch.esp

85 55 OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp

86 56 OOO-Respawn_Week.esp

87 57 OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

88 58 Streamline 2.1.esp

89 59 Unique Landscapes.esp

90 5a Better Cities Full.esp

91 5b Better Cities - All Natural.esp

92 5c Better Cities - Leyawiin Flooded.esp

93 5d Better Cities - Vvardenfell Imports.esp

94 5e Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp

95 5f Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp

96 60 Better Imperial City.esp

97 61 Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

98 62 Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp

Cheers and thanks for your time.

[KatsAwful]

You're probably running out of memory. Oblivion by defaults streams all textures to both system RAM and VRAM, thus limiting the game. Mods like Better Cities and Unique Landscapes adds a ton of new things that are compatible with the OUT pack, which would drastically increase memory requirements. You either need Oblivion Reloaded with its memory management enabled or ENBoost, whatever is more convenient. Also make sure that the settings for Oblivion Stutter Remover are actually appropriate for your system

[Syntextoxy]

You're probably running out of memory. Oblivion by defaults streams all textures to both system RAM and VRAM, thus limiting the game. Mods like Better Cities and Unique Landscapes adds a ton of new things that are compatible with the OUT pack, which would drastically increase memory requirements. You either need Oblivion Reloaded with its memory management enabled or ENBoost, whatever is more convenient. Also make sure that the settings for Oblivion Stutter Remover are actually appropriate for your system

 

Dunno. I have 16gb ddr3 memory and 8gb vram. And I didn't have this problem in the past and used both the mods. i'll go check out OSR then.

 

Update: Was monitoring ram and vram usage. Ram was max 6.3gb / 16gb and vram 2.3gb/8gb. Tried turning on the heap replace in OSR but it just gave me a CTD.

Got a CTD when activating the Arena ---> Market district door. I got the CTD outside of city zones so I feel like it's not a direct better cities fault.

Though, I did try disabling better cities and unique landscapes but when starting the game it would freeze at the Bethesda logo and close. Started normal once enabled again.

Would Wyre Bash perhaps help in any way? I know it creates some bashed patches or something, but I never really used it for one reeasson or annother.

Edited January 27, 2021 by Syntextoxy

[KatsAwful]

It doesn't matter how much memory you have. Oblivion will mirror all textures to system RAM and VRAM, limiting you to around 2.5GB of usage before the game crashes

[Syntextoxy]

It doesn't matter how much memory you have. Oblivion will mirror all textures to system RAM and VRAM, limiting you to around 2.5GB of usage before the game crashes

 

Dunno then, I disabled better citirs and unique landscapes just now, and got a CTD while activating the waaterfront---> Temple district door.... This is bumming me out tbh.

[Pellape]

I would immediate say Better Cities and I cannot use it at all, so start by removing it. When I use it, my save files gets corrupt and useless. Many that have reported the same, solved the problems by removing Better Cities so lets hope it is this one only for you as well. As you have that Waterfront problem, you might need to start a new game which I was forced to do after I had such problems with Better Cities. It sux, but it is worth it.

 

One alternative you can try is to sleep at a small cell for 3 days, well do it 4 days to be 100% sure you reset the cells and try again. Usually this do not solve this type of problems but it is worth a shot

 

I did not see EngineBugFixes in your list. I do get random crashes anyway but not so often, sometimes several an evening, sometimes 1 and sometimes none, but I do use Autosave and set it to 5 min and there are different mods that handle this, so choose one if you forget to save frequently. It is very irritating to play 30 min and forgot saving... :wink: Yesterday I did had 1 crash during 6 hours playing.

Edited January 27, 2021 by Pellape

[Pellape]

Better Music system?? Try to do a Vice verse instead: Performance Sound

 

I also think that Streamline and Stutter remover maybe shouldn't be run at the same time? I tried both but now I use none as it is not needed with MOO but it was needed when I used MMM as that mod is too much. I do not know anything about OOO as I use MOO and WAC these days + Ultimate Leveling also made by Maskar

 

Some here claims streamline causes more problems than it solve as it is old now so just for that reason I stopped using it. I did like the autosave feature but other mods do that as well.

Edited January 27, 2021 by Pellape

[Syntextoxy]

I

 

 

It doesn't matter how much memory you have. Oblivion will mirror all textures to system RAM and VRAM, limiting you to around 2.5GB of usage before the game crashes

 

Dunno then, I disabled better citirs and unique landscapes just now, and got a CTD while activating the waaterfront---> Temple district door.... This is bumming me out tbh.

 

've disabled better cities, armamentarium, atmospheric oblivion, better music system, elven map, immersive interiors, improved trees and flora 2, loot menu,symphony of violance and CTD would still happen. I do have enginebugfixes installed. I'll try to sleep 4 days in the imperial city house and the performance sound, though I have to admit I'm a bit pessimistic.

[Pellape]

Yes. Do a F5 as well, as I did type more no sense while you read it. :D

 

Do try a new game. Your old save files will be there forever anyway. :wink: Without Better Cities as some mods are impossible to remove mid game

Edited January 27, 2021 by Pellape

[Syntextoxy]

Yes. Do a F5 as well, as I did type more no sense while you read it. :D

 

Do try a new game. Your old save files will be there forever anyway. :wink: Without Better Cities as some mods are impossible to remove mid game

 

And nope. With the steps i mentioned I still got a CTD while traveling from Cheydinhal towards Imperial City by main road, relatively close to Cheydinhal... This is a pain in the arse... I feel like I would need to completely reinstall everything... and hope it fixes whatever is happening...