bloodshed714 Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 ok I KNOW THIS IS ALOT...but bare with me here, please i recently learned that i can unable this log in skyrim, so i did it to see why my game crashes sometimes. but anyways i use to be careless when it came to mods.. i use to download any mod i thought was cool, and then just delete some later if i didnt want them...because i wasnt aware of the scripting consequences and save bloating that could happen...i just learned about that yeserday, and now im super cautious when it comes to downloading mods. anyways, my game use to be very stable, even with the warzones mod, and then randomly it started freezing and crashing all the time whenever i was in a big battle. it started getting very annoying and frustrating so i looked up what could be causing the problem and thats when i learned about save bloating, etc. even today i just learned that uninstalling certain mods or updating them a wrong way can be devistating, but anyways, back to the main topic. I got rid of the warzones mod and many other ones the other day, but the crashing persisted. So i learned about a new command that SKSE has, the "ClearInvalidRegistrations" command, which is a start to helping rid of orphaned scripts and supposedly helps over time. Since ive been using that, i have indeed seen my save file size go down, and my game seems more stable now. so ANYWAYS (sorry i get sidetracked), today i started that papyrus log or whatever, and wanted to know what they mean, and if my save if close to being totally screwed. Heres a portion of one of the logs for today: screen budget: 500.000000ms)[04/06/2013 - 06:17:31PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)[04/06/2013 - 06:17:44PM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1scwispwallscript", missing file?[04/06/2013 - 06:17:45PM] Cannot open store for class "RS_WeatherIDRingScript", missing file?[04/06/2013 - 06:17:45PM] Cannot open store for class "f*#@ingArrow", missing file?[04/06/2013 - 06:17:45PM] Cannot open store for class "WhiterunPlayerHorseArmor", missing file?[04/06/2013 - 06:17:45PM] Cannot open store for class "MidasLuggageScript", missing file?[04/06/2013 - 06:17:45PM] Cannot open store for class "BYOHHouseInteriorSwapTrigger", missing file?[04/06/2013 - 06:17:45PM] Error: Unable to bind script BYOHHouseInteriorSwapTrigger to (43003295) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:46PM] Error: Unable to bind script f*#@ingArrow to (00074FEB) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:46PM] Error: Unable to bind script f*#@ingArrow to (000961D5) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:46PM] Error: Unable to bind script f*#@ingArrow to (000961DD) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:46PM] Error: Unable to bind script f*#@ingArrow to (000961E0) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:46PM] Error: Unable to bind script f*#@ingArrow to (000961E2) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:46PM] Error: Unable to bind script f*#@ingArrow to (000961E4) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:46PM] Error: Unable to bind script f*#@ingArrow to (000961E6) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:46PM] Error: Unable to bind script f*#@ingArrow to (000961E7) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:46PM] Error: Unable to bind script f*#@ingArrow to (000961EF) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:46PM] Error: Unable to bind script f*#@ingArrow to (000961F0) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:46PM] Error: Unable to bind script f*#@ingArrow to (000961F4) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:46PM] Error: Unable to bind script f*#@ingArrow to (000961F5) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:46PM] Error: Unable to bind script f*#@ingArrow to (000961F6) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:46PM] Error: Unable to bind script f*#@ingArrow to (000961F7) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:46PM] Error: Unable to bind script f*#@ingArrow to (000961F8) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:46PM] Error: Unable to bind script f*#@ingArrow to (000961F9) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:46PM] Error: Unable to bind script f*#@ingArrow to (000961FB) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:46PM] Error: Unable to bind script f*#@ingArrow to (000961FC) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:46PM] Error: Unable to bind script f*#@ingArrow to (000961FD) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] Error: Unable to bind script AnvilDencheckjusticar to alias Justicar on quest AnvilDenQuest (0501ED3C) because their base types do not match[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property Alias_Serana on script SMPlayerAliasScript attached to alias SMPlayer on quest MSupdater (1003E612) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property PotentialMarriageFaction on script SMPlayerAliasScript attached to alias SMPlayer on quest MSupdater (1003E612) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43015EB2) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43015EB2) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43007D9D) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43007D9D) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (430173C4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (430173C4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43017E9A) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43017E9A) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (430116DB) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (430116DB) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43007D9C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43007D9C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43010F93) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43010F93) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300344E) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300344E) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300B494) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300B494) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43014829) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43014829) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43011761) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43011761) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300348C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300348C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4301062D) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4301062D) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300B495) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300B495) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43013867) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43013867) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300FFCB) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300FFCB) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property TestFireArrow on script defaultFireWeaponScript attached to (000961E0) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43009670) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43009670) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43014FBE) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43014FBE) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (430161FF) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (430161FF) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (430107D7) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (430107D7) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43009709) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43009709) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] Error: Property ThistlePlanted06 on script FarmPlanting attached to (45008AF3) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (45006F58) is not the right type[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] Error: Property NightshadePlanted06 on script FarmPlanting attached to (45008AF3) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (450069E5) is not the right type[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43002E71) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43002E71) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (430152D4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (430152D4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300BEA1) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300BEA1) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43009708) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43009708) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43011550) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43011550) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] Error: Property ThistlePlanted06 on script FarmPlanting attached to (45008AF2) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (45006F58) is not the right type[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] Error: Property NightshadePlanted06 on script FarmPlanting attached to (45008AF2) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (450069E5) is not the right type[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300B4D4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300B4D4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43010E69) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43010E69) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4301066C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4301066C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (430148A8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (430148A8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43017EE7) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43017EE7) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] Error: Property ThistlePlanted06 on script FarmPlanting attached to (45008AF1) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (45006F58) is not the right type[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] Error: Property NightshadePlanted06 on script FarmPlanting attached to (45008AF1) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (450069E5) is not the right type[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43010002) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43010002) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43017FA0) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (43017FA0) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300CC5E) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300CC5E) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] Error: Property ThistlePlanted06 on script FarmPlanting attached to (45008AF0) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (45006F58) is not the right type[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] Error: Property NightshadePlanted06 on script FarmPlanting attached to (45008AF0) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (450069E5) is not the right type[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300CBB6) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300CBB6) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (430116A6) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (430116A6) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300970A) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300970A) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] Error: Property ThistlePlanted06 on script FarmPlanting attached to (45008ACF) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (45006F58) is not the right type[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] Error: Property NightshadePlanted06 on script FarmPlanting attached to (45008ACF) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (450069E5) is not the right type[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300CD26) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300CD26) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300DED8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300DED8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300C752) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300C752) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow2 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300901E) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/06/2013 - 06:17:57PM] warning: Property RCRNSnow1 on script GetShelterTBScript attached to (4300901E) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property so is my save close to being totally screwed? even tho it seems more stable now? and if not...are there any possible precautions i can take in regards to my save/game/mods? 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Georgiegril Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 The papyrus log is not a crash log. Please enclose it in spoiler tags, because it is annoying to have to scroll through. May be part of why you have not been getting responses.The freezing you describe suggests that your computer is overtaxed, and is freezing to free of resources, either in your VRAM or RAM or both. This may be your mods, your graphics or game settings, or other computer hardware/software issues.The fact that it happened suddenly, randomly--I wonder if you are using Steam workshop for mods and playing with steam in online mode? If so, you could have gotten an update that started the original issue, but at this point I'm not sure you will be able to ever identify the original cause.While the skse command you reference may, in fact, help with savegame bloating and corrupted saves, it is not a fix. There is no certain way of cleaning a savegame, or cleaning orphaned scripts with reliable certainty. If you are really attached to your current character/game, and since the game is "more stable" you might see how long you can go. If the problems persist, at this point you could try to fix it, but honestly, I suspect you will save yourself a lot of time if you start with a clean reinstall from steam and a brand new game. (This means using the steam Delete local content, then going into your program files and documents folders for skyrim, and manually removing everything steam leaves behind, then closing your cache, reinstalling skyrim from steam and starting a new character, no mods.) After you get through the Helgen sequence, start adding mods one or two at a time (after reading everything the mod author has available--description readme discussion page, every last bit) exactly as instructed by the mod author, then run BOSS and play a bit to see if it works. If it doesn't stop immediately and investigate the issue. The same with settings-- make any change to your game settings, driver settings or .ini files one or two at a time and test thoroughly before adding any other change. Playing with steam in offline mode and disabling your autosaves and quicksaves may help prevent future problems, too. Some useful resources for you may beSTEP (even if you don't follow it exactly, it is a fantastic resource, it also has its own forum and wiki pages)BOSS (this will greatly help load order issues. It is regular software, not a mod.)Geforce Tweak Guide (has useful info for Radeon Drivers, too. It is more than a year old, so some of its recommendations, like using a 4K memory mod, are now obsolete, but still lots of good advice.)BBen's help blog. (lots of awesome info, help resources. He's a moderator here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodshed714 Posted April 7, 2013 Author Share Posted April 7, 2013 alright ill try those, and thanks so much for the help. im somewhat new here too so sorry for not putting in a s yetpoiler tab lol, i dont even know how to do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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