Kiois Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Hey guys, I am starting to experience some issues with CTD. It started when I installed Dawnguard (surprise). I was able to get a mod which resolved the issue, at least for a while. I tried playing Skyrim again today and it began crashing to desktop after about 5-10 minutes of play time. Not entirely sure why it is doing this or what I should do (without losing my save). Here is some info: Mods:Skyrim.esmDawnguard.esmHearthFires.esmUpdate.esmkeeperpossiblefix.esp ^^ In that load order System Information:OS: Windows XP ProfessionalProcessor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Core Processor 5600+ , MMX, 3DNow (2CPUs)Memory: 2560MB RAMDirectX: 9.0cGPU: ATI Radeon HD 4800 SeriesVideo Driver: I have tried disabling Dawnguard and Hearthfire and keeperpossiblefix without help. Any advice would be most welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksupernova Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 have you done the Beyond Death quest? I got the same problem as well. In my case, there is something wrong with Soul Cairn. The game runs fine until I enter Soul Cairn, then I constantly get CTD after a certain amount of time. I had to console through the quest to avoid entering Soul Cairn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azakiel Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) the first thing you need to do is move Update.esm above Dawnguard and Hearthfire, as Dawnguard relies on some of the resources that are contained in Update.esm. Secondly, I would advise downloading the Unofficial Skyrim Patch, Unofficial Dawnguard Patch and the Unofficial Hearthfire Patch, as these will fix all manner of glitches and bugs in vanilla Skyrim and the DLC. Edited April 12, 2013 by Azakiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiois Posted April 12, 2013 Author Share Posted April 12, 2013 have you done the Beyond Death quest? I got the same problem as well. In my case, there is something wrong with Soul Cairn. The game runs fine until I enter Soul Cairn, then I constantly get CTD after a certain amount of time. I had to console through the quest to avoid entering Soul Cairn Yes I have. This all started within the Soul Carin. I was able to get a mod which prevented major crashes while within the Soul Cairn but since then, it has occasionally CTD. the first thing you need to do is move Update.esm above Dawnguard and Hearthfire, as Dawnguard relies on some of the resources that are contained in Update.esm. Secondly, I would advise downloading the Unofficial Skyrim Patch, Unofficial Dawnguard Patch and the Unofficial Hearthfire Patch, as these will fix all manner of glitches and bugs in vanilla Skyrim and the DLC. Excellent, thank you for your advice. I do love how it is called vanilla Skyrim XD Seriously though, thanks for the advice. I will get around to installing these later today and if they fail or succeed I will post on this thread. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiois Posted April 12, 2013 Author Share Posted April 12, 2013 Okay I have installed the patches the order is now: Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDawnguard.esmHearthFires.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espkeeperpossiblefix.esp I have tried playing Skyrim with keeperpossiblefix enabled and disabled with the above load order, but the game crashes but not to desktop. It just lags incredibly, then stops working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksupernova Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Based on my experience and many other threads, I believe there are three possible crashing problems in Soul Cairn:- Keeper bug: crash when approach the keepers => keeperpossiblefix fixes this- Lightning crash: CTD without error when approach the lightning storm above Valerica building and Boneyard =>don't find any fix but removing the lightning script with CK works- Unknown bug: successfully and safely venturing the Soul Cairn without crash but ever since, the game will occasionally pop up Microsoft Virtual C++ run time error and stop working.=> bug not identified and no fixDon't know if your problem is the fourth one or identical to the third but it's almost impossible to not having problem with Soul Cairn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiois Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 Based on my experience and many other threads, I believe there are three possible crashing problems in Soul Cairn:- Keeper bug: crash when approach the keepers => keeperpossiblefix fixes this- Lightning crash: CTD without error when approach the lightning storm above Valerica building and Boneyard =>don't find any fix but removing the lightning script with CK works- Unknown bug: successfully and safely venturing the Soul Cairn without crash but ever since, the game will occasionally pop up Microsoft Virtual C++ run time error and stop working.=> bug not identified and no fixDon't know if your problem is the fourth one or identical to the third but it's almost impossible to not having problem with Soul Cairn I completed the Soul Cairn ages ago. I got the keeperfix mod which resolved the issue. Recently, the game has been crashing for no reason that I can determine. Completely random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiois Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 Update: I have used the TESEdit software to clean up the various mods that I have used and the CTD has ceased. The game is still somewhat laggy, however. This may be my computer as it has been on continuously for some days now, downloading things. So I will give my computer a wee rest later on, and will play again. Update will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiois Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 I played Skyrim again and although there was no lag, I still have the crash to desktop problem. The order of my mods are: Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveDawnguard.esm ActiveHearthFires.esm ActiveUnofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp ActiveUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Activekeeperpossiblefix.esp That is the exact load order. I have used BOSS to clean up the mods. I still get a CTD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 BOSS doesn't clean mods, just arranges their load order according to a 'guide' composed by the BOSS team through modder and mod users suggestions (or did you mean TES5Edit?). Even though you have just a handful of mods, I'd still like to see your BOSS log if you don't mind posting it. Also, have you made any edits to the game ini files? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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