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Random CTD's without error. Really need help :(.


Shredy777

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These occur whenever they feel like it :P. Sometimes I can play for 2 hours, sometimes these happen aften 30 seconds. At random places in Skyrim, interior as well as exterior. I'm new to this so I don't know what you guys need...

Also I have no idea where to start or what to do.

 

 

Here is my BOSS log:

 

Rec. Plugins:

 

 

  • These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

    • Skyrim.esm Active Checksum: C665FD56
    • Update.esm Active Checksum: ECA91BE5
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
    • Dawnguard.esm Active Checksum: 7FC614C8
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
    • HearthFires.esm Active Checksum: C802D71C
    • Dragonborn.esm Active Checksum: 9DC37F5C
    • ApachiiHair.esm Active Checksum: 783F7167
    • RaceCompatibility.esm Active Checksum: EB1DBB4C
    • ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active Checksum: 918881A7
    • ETaC - RESOURCES.esm Active Checksum: 6D4F9941
    • JSwords.esm Active Checksum: 58016F83
      • Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012). A fixed and cleaned version can be obtained here.
    • Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Active Checksum: 2DEDA5C1
    • MagicDuel.esm Active Checksum: 59ABD4D0
    • MagicDuelReborn.esm Active Checksum: 29C4F052
      • Warning: Incompatible with MagicDuel.esm. Use one or the other
    • moonpath.esm Active Checksum: 50A19275
    • Solitude A City Of Trade.esm Active Checksum: FB48BBE3
      • Contains dirty edits: 9 ITM, 4 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
      • Warning: This file contains 2 deleted NavMesh records that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions withTES5Edit is located here.
    • SPIKE.esm Active Checksum: 418D8B2F
    • HighResTexturePack01.esp Active Checksum: D596F02A
    • HighResTexturePack02.esp Active Checksum: D596F02A
    • RealisticEyeLighting.esp Active Checksum: 4B709D31
    • ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp Active Checksum: 703DBE17
    • Better Dynamic Snow.esp Active Checksum: F3204EF1
    • ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp Active Checksum: 75A1B6EA
    • mintylightningmod.esp Active Checksum: 9603C31F
    • MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp Active Checksum: F513130
    • StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active Checksum: 7985AB43
    • Birdsofskyrim.esp Active Checksum: CF25ED24
      • Contains dirty edits: 32 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • Catsofskyrim.esp Active Checksum: EE148352
    • Dogsofskyrim.esp Active Checksum: DE3A16B3
    • ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp Active Checksum: DB6DFFAD
    • Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp Active Checksum: 8E4BA610
      • Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)
    • People Have Lanterns.esp Active Checksum: DC3B2BAE
    • ShootingStars.esp Active Checksum: 5B89D5C9
    • Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active Checksum: 5485B1CD
    • SkyUI.esp Active Checksum: BA843F07
    • aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp Active Checksum: 8111F10E
    • backpackfrankdema.esp Active Checksum: DE29C299
    • Cloaks.esp Active Checksum: D8F94C02
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
      • Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp Active Checksum: 56988D38
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
    • 1nivWICCloaks.esp Active Checksum: BCB19816
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
      • Incompatible with: Cloaks of skyrim, get the compatibility patch in the WIC optional files.
    • 1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp Active Checksum: 508D7554
      • Warning: Use only one WICCloaks esp.
    • 1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp Active Checksum: 8A5F9F22
      • Warning: Use only one WICCloaks esp.
      • Incompatible with: Cloaks of skyrim (even with compatibility patch). To fix this use another WICCloaks esp or uninstall cloaks of skyrim.
    • DDD-BardsLute.esp Active Checksum: 583FC67E
      • Contains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active Checksum: F95218FD
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
      • Contains dirty edits: 7 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • Lorecraft - Immersive Armors - SkyRe.esp Checksum: EA4988E7
    • HoodsAndCirclets.esp Active Checksum: 4DD87051
    • JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp Active Checksum: DA14A9DE
    • LeftHandRings.esp Active Checksum: DC80D7C2
    • LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp Active Checksum: 2FD98E1
    • LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp Active Checksum: 7798F0E
    • R18Pn - Inner Wear Set.esp Active Checksum: 7BAEECB6
    • SkyHeels.esp Active Checksum: 9816BAE4
      • Warning: This file contains unexpected (or out of order) records and it should be removed.
    • UNP Boots 02.esp Active Checksum: D494A4D4
    • Dr_Bandolier.esp Active Checksum: 4402F887
    • SkyRe_Main.esp Active Checksum: D8AE7D8F
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}
      • Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here.
      • Requires: Skyrim -Community- Uncapper for full perk functional
      • Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'
      • Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.
      • Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:
      • Note: [Actor]
      • Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000
      • Note: [Combat]
      • Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64
      • Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64
      • Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0
      • Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0
    • SkyRe_Combat.esp Active Checksum: 59C44567
    • SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Active Checksum: D0C666A8
    • SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Active Checksum: 3F9BD9D
    • SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp Active Checksum: 34A69438
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
    • SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Active Checksum: 6D86A84F
    • Atmospheric Whiterun.esp Active Checksum: A829A9F6
    • betterdawnstar.esp Active Checksum: ECF883A6
    • betterinns.esp Active Checksum: 938187BD
      • Warning: This file contains 1 deleted NavMesh record that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions withTES5Edit is located here.
    • betterMarkarthexterieur.esp Active Checksum: 5016CA20
    • bettermorthal.esp Active Checksum: C97D5544
      • Warning: This file contains 1 deleted NavMesh record that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions withTES5Edit is located here.
    • betterwinterhold.esp Active Checksum: 757BD177
      • Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • RIC_Dawnstar.esp Active Checksum: 998E6FA5
    • Elvenwood.esp Active Checksum: 6F322088
    • JobsofSkyrim.esp Active Checksum: 46019E66
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
    • Liberation Beacon.esp Active Checksum: EAC2C978
      • Contains dirty edits: 10 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • moonpath_questdata.esp Active Checksum: 78CAE957
    • SkyrimChimneysRW.esp Active Checksum: 575F8ED2
    • Undercity.esp Active Checksum: ACA31B9
    • Work a Steady Job as a Blacksmith.esp Active Checksum: 9EC79790
      • Contains dirty edits: 13 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • Babette.esp Checksum: 6596E3CF
      • Contains dirty edits: 8 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active Checksum: DBB91231
    • SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp Active Checksum: 2A0F1313
      • Note: Uninstall old version of Skyrim Flora Overhaul if using SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
    • SkyRealism - Grass.esp Active Checksum: D21A4337
    • SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp Active Checksum: B9A52868
    • dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active Checksum: B9F89854
    • dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active Checksum: 86356D43
    • Spells Cast Light.esp Active Checksum: 685CD09B
    • Better Villages.esp Checksum: 8C315DC3
    • ETaC - Darkwater.esp Active Checksum: 41F31139
      • Contains dirty edits: 31 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • ETaC - Dragon Bridge.esp Active Checksum: 5145A4B
      • Contains dirty edits: 196 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • ETaC - Ivarstead.esp Active Checksum: 2BCFAC3A
    • ETaC - Riverwood.esp Active Checksum: B699FC8E
      • Contains dirty edits: 29 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • ETaC - Rorikstead.esp Active Checksum: 5626A22C
      • Contains dirty edits: 38 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • ETaC - Morthal.esp Active Checksum: A20E7ABC
      • Contains dirty edits: 31 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • ETaC Follower Add-On.esp Active Checksum: EACBC351
    • Populated Cities 2.esp Active Checksum: 5FC72375
      • Contains dirty edits: 59 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • RealisticRoomRental.esp Active Checksum: D3C52997
    • RRR_Hearthfire-Patch.esp Active Checksum: A92CC2DD
    • EnhancedLightsandFX.esp Active Checksum: CAAC40C
    • ELFXEnhancer.esp Active Checksum: 70B6BB5E
    • CinematicFireFX.esp Checksum: 5A0CC9FF
    • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp Checksum: 18AD5FEB
      • Contains dirty edits: 18 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp Active Checksum: 77CC9091
    • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp Checksum: 33A5FD6
      • Contains dirty edits: 9 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp Checksum: D4C08589
    • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp Checksum: 53706BFB
      • Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active Checksum: 9D7312A5
    • ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active Checksum: 9FFF2A85
    • ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp Active Checksum: BDC66F4C
      • Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul
    • ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active Checksum: B61E85AE
      • Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul
    • ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp Active Checksum: E0070AEF
    • MidasSkyrim.esp Active Checksum: CC54597
      • Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) an update to the previous compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)
    • DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Active Checksum: 455C0C6A
    • DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp Active Checksum: 767B8EED
    • MagicDuelReborn - Shouts.esp Active Checksum: 2F3F4FEB
    • GDO_Plugin_SkyRe.esp Active Checksum: C82BA72F
    • TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Active Checksum: 5F107161
    • OrientalRace.esp Active Checksum: F8DB1304
    • TemptressVixen.esp Active Checksum: 45168108
    • UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active Checksum: 396AE69F
      • Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.
      • Contains dirty edits: 18 ITM, 0 UDR records Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Active Checksum: A7A56D2
      • Contains dirty edits: 18 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Active Checksum: 47AA94A
      • Contains dirty edits: 29 ITM, 18 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • UFO - AllwaysDrawWeapons.esp Active Checksum: AC5DA00B
    • Amanda.esp Checksum: F6FB293A
    • Lyla.esp Checksum: 29B4D549
    • mayatola UFF.esp Checksum: 64788A28
    • Michelle.esp Checksum: 81F9C5CE
    • Misha.esp Checksum: 6B5AEE69
    • SkyRe_Races.esp Active Checksum: 6DABBEE4
    • ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp Active Checksum: 1841112C
      • Incompatible with: SkyRe Races. A compatibility patch is available here.
      • Contains dirty edits: 6 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • WATER.esp Active Checksum: AADB5181
    • WATER Plants.esp Active Checksum: 5CE65A9F
    • WATER DB Waves.esp Active Checksum: AD437C27
    • BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp Active Checksum: 9B51E375
    • ReProccer.esp Active Checksum: FDA34DC1

Unrec Plugins:

The following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed.

  • SRSarasta.esp Checksum: C62BE6BF
  • SRMaisa.esp Checksum: 6C1B9A6E
  • SRKirsikka.esp Checksum: 910E9913
  • SRIsaka.esp Checksum: 7C53E81F
  • SRIlta.esp Checksum: 2F502195
  • RRR_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active Checksum: C3FC5CAF
  • ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT - DG and CoT Sounds Patch.esp Active Checksum: 8FB62391
  • SkyRe_HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonbornPatch.esp Checksum: 21AE8636
  • MageBackpack_byTumbajamba.esp Active Checksum: 1BD90B33
  • ForgottenSettlements.esp Active Checksum: 37AD064
  • oakwood.esp Active Checksum: CABF76BA
  • RavenNest.esp Active Checksum: 34B9115E
  • AlchemistsHiddenValley.esp Active Checksum: 3EEBE030
  • Riverwood Reborn.esp Active Checksum: E7525D70
Edited by Shredy777
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Some examples include MagicDuel.esm and MagicDuelReborn.esm.

under each mod BOSS may or may not list warnings. if it does (which it is in the case of quite a number of your mods) you really do need to act on the warnings ASAP.

regarding the manual placement of unrecognised plugins, you can either create user rules using BOSS, or you can install wrye Bash and drag the mods into the position you think they fit.

Edited by Azakiel
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I don't quite understand all of those warnings...

Like: Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

 

I heard somewhere around that you shouldn't use TES5Edit to clean out mods... only master files. That if you have problems with mods then you should contact the Mod maker.

Is that correct or can I just clean those mods?

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The Bash tag notes are just suggestions for which Bash tags to attach to a mod if you are using Wrye Bash to make a bashed patch (which is primarily used to merge changes to levelled lists, but in oblivion could do more things). if you have any mods that modify the same levelled lists you will want to create a bashed patch so you can benefit from all the changes, not just the changes to the levelled list made by the last mod loaded.

 

There are very few situations where clearing ITM records from a mod is a bad thing (you should always clean UDR records), and that is mainly where the mod if deliberately reverting a particular vanilla record to the state it was in vanilla skyrim. I have only ever seen this in mods that revert changes made in the Unofficial Skyrim Patch (for instance the change to the Necromage perk). Unless the mod description says that is the purpose of the mod, you should also clean the ITMs (although it is a little bit more of a judgement call.

The reason people say to contact the mod author is primarily to notify them that they left dirty edits in their mod, so that they can clean it in their next update.

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This is an example:

  • 1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp Active Checksum: 8A5F9F22
    • Warning: Use only one WICCloaks esp.
    • Incompatible with: Cloaks of skyrim (even with compatibility patch). To fix this use another WICCloaks esp or uninstall cloaks of skyri

You need to read the entire log. If it says it is incompatible with another mod, you need to choose one.

If it says a mod should be removed, remove it. If it says another mod or patch is required, you need to get it (or not use the mod)

 

To manually place mods, you need to go back and read everything the mod author provides--description, discussion, readme, everything. Since BOSS does not recognize it, the BOSS log will have no information on compatibility either. You need to make sure the mod is compatible with the mods you have, and look for advice on the proper placement. If there is no placement advice, you can try putting it with similar mods that are placed by BOSS (so house mods with other house mods, followers with followers, etc)

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its difficult to say, it could be one of the issues we've already noted, or it could be something else.

 

Once you've done what we've suggested, post up your papyrus debug log the next time you get a CTD, along with a description of the situation where you crashed, and we may be able to track down the problem

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