EldritchEquations Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Been at this for months. Still no clue what's causing it. At some point, I thought pretty much every single one of these was the issue and obviously turned out not to be.Before I say this all again:Yes I've tried verifying my cache.Yes I've reinstalled the game.Yes I've reinstalled all my mods.No it doesn't happen on a brand new, clean save with no mods.Yes I've tried uninstalling them all and turning them all on one at a time.Yes I've tried installing them all and turning them off one at a time.I can't find the culprit.Fallout4.esm=1DLCRobot.esm=1DLCworkshop01.esm=1DLCCoast.esm=1DLCworkshop02.esm=1DLCworkshop03.esm=1DLCNukaWorld.esm=1Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp=1ArmorKeywords.esm=1HUDFramework.esm=1GCM_DLC_Automatron.esl=1GCM_DLC_Far_Harbor.esl=1HoloDisplay.esl=1IDEKsLogisticsStation2.esl=1More NPCs Sandbox Expansion.esl=1WorkshopFramework.esm=1SimSettlements.esm=1UitFJ.esl=1NPSShopping.esl=1TrueStormsFO4.esm=1dinoshelf.esp=1SettlementMenuManager.esp=1GCM.esp=1ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion-VanillaWeight.esp=1LooksMenu.esp=1SCM.esp=1LooksMirror.esp=1GrafsSecurityFences.esp=1Sandbag Fortifications - 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Patch Sim Settlements.esp=1Crafting Mastery - Universal Chems Bench.esp=1ManufacturingExtended.esp=1ManufacturingExtendedFH.esp=1DLC items to manufacturing.esp=1Better Manufacturing.esp=1Better Manufacturing - Menu Organization.esp=1Better Manufacturing - Valdacil Patch.esp=1Better Manufacturing - Manufacturing Extended Additions.esp=1Better Manufacturing - Manufacturing Extended Additions FH.esp=1Better Manufacturing - Manufacturing Extended Expanded Patch WO.esp=1AllowVaultAnywhere.esp=1TransferSettlements.esp=1Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp=1BetterSettlers.esp=1BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp=1BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp=1Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp=1Stm_DiamondCityExpansion_x_LowerVolume.esp=1TrainBar.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepperman35 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 During your troubleshooting did you use a new clean save each time you tested a mod for comparability? I'd probably have a save file fresh out of the vault, install a mod, COC to that location, and test. Wash, rinse and repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldritchEquations Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share Posted February 27, 2021 Yes. I have a clean save actually just before exiting the vault specifically for testing. I've been trying the method you suggested for months to find the culprit, but everything from the UFO4P to True Storms has done it to me. Which doesn't make any sense, thus why I'm baffled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldritchEquations Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) Someone else pointed me at Fallrim Tools... I'm not sure why, as I have no idea what it does. I have it now, I guess? All they vaguely said was, "Examine your save." Yep, it's there. It still won't load after saving in Diamond City right across from the noodle stand, on a completely new save, with nothing but F4SE, UFO4P, Settlers of the Commonwealth, and now this tomfoolery.Then someone else said go get Buffout 4. OK, fine. So I go download x86, x64, and ARM64 of the Microsoft Visual C++-- as Buffout 4 doesn't specify which you need-- and xSE Plugin Preloader F4, Address Library, and Buffout 4.Game won't run at all now. HEADDESK Windows gives me the little circle like it's doing something for a second, and then nothing.EDIT: Changed the Load Method in xSE Plugin Preloader. Loaded. This is what I get from the Buffout log when I try to load into the save inside Diamond City. New game just out of the vault, F4SE, UFO4P, and Settlers of the Commonwealth. I save at the noodle stand, exit, and this is the reload attempt: E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\main.cpp(50): [info] Buffout4 v1.20.3E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 0B / 256B (00.00%)E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Crash\CrashHandler.cpp(592): [info] installed crash handlersE:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Patches\AchievementsPatch.cpp(76): [info] installed Achievements patchE:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Patches/BSTextureStreamerLocalHeapPatch.h(61): [info] installed BSTextureStreamerLocalHeap patchE:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 14B / 256B (05.47%)E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Patches/HavokMemorySystemPatch.h(163): [info] installed HavokMemorySystem patchE:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Patches/MemoryManagerPatch.h(244): [info] installed MemoryManager patchE:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 28B / 256B (10.94%)E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Patches/ScaleformAllocatorPatch.h(59): [info] installed ScaleformAllocator patchE:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Patches/SmallBlockAllocatorPatch.h(31): [info] installed SmallBlockAllocator patchE:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Patches/WorkshopMenuPatch.h(584): [info] installed WorkshopMenu patchE:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Fixes/ActorIsHostileToActorFix.h(30): [info] installed ActorIsHostileToActor fixE:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 43B / 256B (16.80%)E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 57B / 256B (22.27%)E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Fixes\CellInitFix.cpp(75): [info] installed CellInit fixE:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 65B / 256B (25.39%)E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Fixes/GreyMoviesFix.h(23): [info] installed GreyMovies fixE:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 79B / 256B (30.86%)E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Fixes/MovementPlannerFix.h(22): [info] installed MovementPlanner fixE:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 93B / 256B (36.33%)E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Fixes/PackageAllocateLocationFix.h(22): [info] installed PackageAllocateLocation fixE:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 107B / 256B (41.80%)E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Fixes/SafeExitFix.h(18): [info] installed SafeExit fixE:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Fixes/UnalignedLoadFix.h(33): [info] installed UnalignedLoad fixE:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 123B / 256B (48.05%)E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 131B / 256B (51.17%)E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 148B / 256B (57.81%)E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 156B / 256B (60.94%)E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Warnings\CreateTexture2DWarning.cpp(118): [info] installed class Warnings::CreateTexture2DWarningE:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 173B / 256B (67.58%)E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 187B / 256B (73.05%)E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Warnings\ImageSpaceAdapterWarning.cpp(76): [info] installed class Warnings::ImageSpaceAdapterWarningE:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Fixes/EncounterZoneResetFix.h(52): [info] installed EncounterZoneReset fixE:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 198B / 256B (77.34%)E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 206B / 256B (80.47%)E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Defau Edited February 27, 2021 by EldritchEquations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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