CTD Diagnosing

[RS13]

I've been getting CTDs about every ten minutes. It's ruining the game. How do I find out what's causing the problem?

[Kasumi446]

Uninstall all of the mod if you don't remember your recently installed mod, and check one of them one by one and see which ones the problem.

[sgcdialler]

If this starts happening suddenly, then a recently-installed mod is most likely the issue. It may be buggy itself, or it may take issue with another mod you have installed. If you don't already, I would reccommend using BOSS to sort your load-order. If you aren't sure which mod causes the crash and you've already run BOSS, try to think of everything in the cell you're in that may have been modified in some way, and check those mods.

[RS13]

That's the thing. I haven't installed any mods recently--or I've installed every mod recently. I started playing about ten hours ago and haven't added any mods since. I was having occasional CTDs at the start, but nothing really bothersome (it'd happen maybe once every couple of hours if I played that long). Now it's all the time.

Edited April 20, 2013 by RS13

[ripple]

Post your BOSS log (with the messages). Include the list of plugins not recognized by BOSS if one is generated. Enclose them in spoiler tags so they don't clutter the screen.

[sgcdialler]

Well, not to sound patronizing (but to be a little patronizing :P ) it's not generally a good idea to install a ton of mods at once if you haven't tested them before. Install them one at a time first, and run BOSS each time to minimize risks. As a note, Bethesda themselves have said that the only way to truly and completely uninstall a mod is to revert to a save prior to its installation. In other words, some mods may have permanantly changed parts of the game (in your save), so if you start the game with them, you're stuck with them.

 

Don't be too hard on yourself for it. I have 105 mods active right now and just recently lost a 60 hour playthrough because I messed up script I was trying out. It happens to the best of us :)

 

ripple, on 19 Apr 2013 - 21:40, said:

 

Post your BOSS log (with the messages). Include the list of plugins not recognized by BOSS if one is generated. Enclose them in spoiler tags so they don't clutter the screen.

 

also, this^

Edited April 20, 2013 by sgcdialler

[RS13]

Well--and this makes it even more frustrating--I *did* test them. I created a test character and added mods one by one on him before moving on to my real play-through. I spent more than a week of heavy playing just trying mods out. And I never had this! Then I start my real character and things are going fine. Then suddenly I can't scale High Hrothgar without a CTD.

[sgcdialler]

Alright, well then could you post a BOSS log with all associated information? :)

[RS13]

Yeah, I'll do that in a bit. I need to get my load order now written down. Last time I used BOSS it moved things into sub-optimal places.

[RS13]

Here's the log:

 

 

 

These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

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  • Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.
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Also, I'm pretty embarrassed now. I didn't know BOSS could do this. I now see all sorts that I could solve.

Edited April 20, 2013 by RS13