Eclipse457 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Whenever I go into the Bee and Barb I get CTD . I've been searching google but haven't found any answers that work for me. Here are the mods I have: GameMode=SkyrimSkyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1ApachiiHair.esm=1SPIKE.esm=1RaceCompatibility.esm=1moonpath.esm=1PC Exclusive Animation Path - Imperial.esp=1PC Exclusive Animation Path - Breton.esp=1PC Exclusive Animation Path - DarkElf.esp=1PC Exclusive Animation Path - HighElf.esp=1PC Exclusive Animation Path - Khajiit.esp=1PC Exclusive Animation Path - Nord.esp=1PC Exclusive Animation Path - ORC.esp=1PC Exclusive Animation Path - RedGuard.esp=1PC Exclusive Animation Path - WoodElf.esp=1PC Exclusive Animation Path.esp=1PC Exclusive Animation Path - 0- Main.esp=1PC Exclusive Animation Path - Argonian.esp=1werewolffix.esp=1merchant gold increase.esp=1craftable lockpicks.esp=1black mage armor.esp=1food revisions by the cupcake king.esp=1attack of the giant slaughterfish!.esp=1chesko_lorebasedloadingscreens.esp=1thefrontier.esp=1silencer's vestments.esp=1the mcmiller chronicles.esp=1ingots.esp=1fasttravel.esp=1tailoring.esp=1werewolf.esp=1godly werewold.esp=1bowmod steam lite.esp=1werewolfvision.esp=0pwc-permanent werewolf.esp=0pwc-exit on demand.esp=0Purewaters.esp=1betterwerewolf.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1auto unequip ammo.esp=1dr_bandolier.esp=1arcticarmor.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1chesko_wearablelantern.esp=1recyclingalpha.esp=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1RaceMenu.esp=1balancedfasterhorses.esp=0RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp=1LiveOffTheLand.esp=1Ish's Souls to Perks.esp=1Spousetocustomhome.esp=1My Home Is Your Home.esp=1The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp=1aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1friendly fire protection.esp=1mxskeletalfrostmane.esp=1mxthunderdasharmored.esp=1mx4hota.esp=1mxwerewolfcrystal.esp=1Automatic Variants.esp=1naturalisticwerewolf.esp=0here there be monsters.esp=0werewolfbuff.esp=0throwing_weapons_perktree_plugin.esp=0dfa_throwing_weapons.esp=0_pocketempirebuilder.esp=0ww_rich_merchants.esp=0dragon knowledge spell.esp=0explosivechickens.esp=0funsword.esp=0stbupsychomask.esp=0AdvancedKillMoves.esp=0beastwithin.esp=0werewolvesoccurringnaturally.esp=1KCEAssaultRifles.esp=1Unique Uniques.esp=1hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp=1MIDFollowMeCloser.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1NoSneakAttackSound.esp=1TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp=1Immersive Weapons.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1AdalMatar.esp=1Headtracking.esp=1brawlbug-plugin.esp=1GreenWaterFix_v2withDawnguard.esp=1Blue Water_fix for Dawnguard.esp=1WerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6b.esp=0WerewolfMastery.esp=1WerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6.esp=1ToL_Core_by_Brevi.esp=1Pinewoods Cottage.esp=1lightweight potions and poisons.esp=1lightweight scrolls.esp=1prometheus_beastskeletons.esp=1BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp=1Convenient Horses.esp=1Convenient Horses - Faster Sprint.esp=1Predator Vision.esp=1FNISspells.esp=1CustomRaces.esp=1uskp_addon.esp=1uskp_addon eng.esp=1RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1playerwerewolfgrowth.esp=1DeazurainLoadout.esp=1moonpath_questdata.esp=1Werewolf Race 1.2.esp=1AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1GetArrowsBack.esp=1 Please anyone help I'm getting frustrated with this. THANK YOU in advance :biggrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 I hope that's not your load order.... Install and run BOSS, then post your BOSS log here (with the messages). Include the list of plugins not recognized by BOSS if one is generated. Enclose them in spoiler tags so they don't clutter the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipse457 Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 Ok so heres my BOSS log: SKSE Version: 0.1.6.13CFM_extensions.dllshowRaceMenu_preCacheKiller.dllThese plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Dawnguard.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 607 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}ApachiiHair.esm ActiveRaceCompatibility.esm Activemoonpath.esm ActiveSPIKE.esm Activebrawlbug-plugin.esp ActiveNote: Obsolete. Use Brawl Bugs CEUnofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp ActiveUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Activeprometheus_beastskeletons.esp Activechesko_wearablelantern.esp ActiveDual Sheath Redux.esp ActiveRequires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+explosivechickens.esphere there be monsters.espIsh's Souls to Perks.esp Activetailoring.esp ActiveConvenient Horses.esp ActiveConvenient Horses - Faster Sprint.esp Activeauto unequip ammo.esp Activechesko_lorebasedloadingscreens.esp ActiveRaceMenu.esp ActiveRaceMenuPlugin.esp ActiveNote: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.SkyUI.esp ActiveaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp Activearcticarmor.esp Activeblack mage armor.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 0 ITM, 2 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Contains dirty edits: 7 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.KCEAssaultRifles.esp Activesilencer's vestments.esp ActiveNote: Obsolete. Update to the latest renamed version, 1 - Cloth (Heavy Armor, Light Armor, Replacer)throwing_weapons_perktree_plugin.espUnique Uniques.esp Activedr_bandolier.esp ActiveMIDFollowMeCloser.esp ActiveAdalMatar.esp ActiveWarning: This file contains 5 deleted NavMesh records that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.moonpath_questdata.esp ActivePinewoods Cottage.esp Activethefrontier.esp Activethe mcmiller chronicles.esp Activeingots.esp Activelightweight potions and poisons.esp ActiveBarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp ActiveBetterQuestObjectives.esp ActiveBetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp ActiveGetArrowsBack.esp ActiveHeadtracking.esp ActiveImmersive Weapons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}lightweight scrolls.esp Activemerchant gold increase.esp Activewerewolvesoccurringnaturally.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 18 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp ActiveRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 9 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp ActiveRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.betterwerewolf.esp Activegodly werewold.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 5 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Predator Vision.esp Activenaturalisticwerewolf.espToL_Core_by_Brevi.esp ActiveNote: It has been reported that Automatic Variants does not import the spell that infects the player on being hit by a werewolf.WerewolfMastery.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.WerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.WerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6b.espContains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.dragon knowledge spell.espFNISspells.esp ActiveNoSneakAttackSound.esp ActiveAdvancedKillMoves.espRequires: "http//skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/21226 AdvancedKillMoves_English_2-0b_Dawnguard"The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp Activebeastwithin.espContains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.CustomRaces.esp ActiveUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp ActiveNote: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.Contains dirty edits: 18 ITM, 0 UDR records Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 18 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.My Home Is Your Home.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Spousetocustomhome.esp ActiveAmazingFollowerTweaks.esp ActivePC Exclusive Animation Path - Argonian.esp ActivePC Exclusive Animation Path - Breton.esp ActivePC Exclusive Animation Path - DarkElf.esp ActivePC Exclusive Animation Path - HighElf.esp ActivePC Exclusive Animation Path - Imperial.esp ActivePC Exclusive Animation Path - Khajiit.esp ActivePC Exclusive Animation Path - Nord.esp ActivePC Exclusive Animation Path - ORC.esp ActivePC Exclusive Animation Path - RedGuard.esp ActivePC Exclusive Animation Path - WoodElf.esp ActivePC Exclusive Animation Path - 0- Main.esp ActivePurewaters.esp ActiveGreenWaterFix_v2withDawnguard.esp ActivePC Exclusive Animation Path.esp ActiveDeazurainLoadout.esp ActiveBashed Patch, 0.esp ActiveAutomatic Variants.esp ActiveThe following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed.werewolffix.esp Activecraftable lockpicks.esp Activefood revisions by the cupcake king.esp Activeattack of the giant slaughterfish!.esp Activefasttravel.espwerewolf.esp Activebowmod steam lite.esp Activewerewolfvision.esppwc-permanent werewolf.esppwc-exit on demand.esprecyclingalpha.esp Activebalancedfasterhorses.espLiveOffTheLand.esp Activefriendly fire protection.esp Activemxskeletalfrostmane.esp Activemxthunderdasharmored.esp Activemx4hota.esp Activemxwerewolfcrystal.esp Activewerewolfbuff.espdfa_throwing_weapons.esp_pocketempirebuilder.espww_rich_merchants.espfunsword.espstbupsychomask.espTTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp ActiveBlue Water_fix for Dawnguard.esp Activeplayerwerewolfgrowth.esp ActiveWerewolf Race 1.2.esp Active Sorry for the late reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 1) Cleaning: download TES5Edit from the link in your BOSS log, follow the instruction on the same page linked, and clean the plugins flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edits', including the DLCs. You'll need to remove identical to master entries as well as undelete/disable deleted references. 2) Maintenance: look through the BOSS log for any error messages about plugins, such as... AdalMatar.esp ActiveWarning: This file contains 5 deleted NavMesh records that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.I don't use this one, and do not recognize it, so I don't know if it actually deletes default game navmesh or just edits them. If you are not sure and have no indication from the author as to exactly what is edited, and if you don't consider it an 'essential' mod, I'd recommend you uninstall it rather than try to repair the navmesh deletion. 3) Rogue mods: the plugins not recognized by BOSS go to the bottom of the load order when you run BOSS, and override conflicting records of mods loaded earlier. First thing is to try disabling all of them and see if you can enter the tavern without CTD. If you can, then one of them is the 'culprit.' Regardless of the results of your testing, those plugins should have their load order position arranged manually. Ideally, they should be loaded up in TES5Edit with all of your other plugins, so you can look through their records one by one and determine if they contain conflicting records. It's going to be a headache to deal with them because you have so many of them. But the plugins that do not contain conflicting records can be loaded any where, while those that do contain conflicting records will have to have their load order positions arranged manually based on what will best optimize the stability of the load order. Alternatively, you can uninstall those ones so you don't have to deal with the aggravation. Remember to rebuild your compatibility patches (AV patch, Bashed Patch) after you finalize all the cleaning and rearranging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipse457 Posted April 22, 2013 Author Share Posted April 22, 2013 I don't know how but I fixed it somehow. I'll take a look at tes5edit as I've looked into it earlier but it was too complicated :cool: Anyways thanks for the help :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipse457 Posted April 24, 2013 Author Share Posted April 24, 2013 Found out it was the load order. After running Boss it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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