Why I'm voting for Bush

[Icefiddell]

My point exactly, sooner or later the US will unfortunately find many of it's former friends and allies will no longer help them if they continue their 'War on Terrorism' the way Bush is doing it.

 

As for Iraq and that holy city that i have given up trying to spell lol have the Americans went in yet and taken them out, or is that holy cleric still held up in their. IMO they should bomb that place to the ground, they've said that they would fight to the death so so be it. But that would most likely cause a rise up of the Sheik (sp?) muslims.

 

Therefore making the situation even worse, so i guess that wouldn't be the best course of action.

[Malchik]

It is virtually impossible for a country to keep an empire for long these days. US trustable forces would be thinly spread, they would suffer more losses than the US people would accept and internal unrest would cause the empire to fall apart. There are many historical examples.

 

But perhaps the lesson has to be learned the hard way by the US too. Shame about the rest of the world suffering while they learn it!

[pharzon]

EU already has greater economical power than the USA. It is only a matter of time until it also has a greater military power, since the USA probably has to cut down their military in order to be able to pay back their debts.

 

China will be faster than 50 years, in probably only 15 years it will be the mightiest nation on earth. Mass still counts  ;)

 

Russia is coming back, faster than some may think. Their military is still strong and they are recovering. When they unite with the EU, the union of EU and Russia will be stronger than the USA.

 

And don't forget Japan which is still strong economically. Let's see with whom Japan allies...

Unfortunately yes, EU is trying to be a new military superpower. That plan just shows how uttely stupid most of the leaders of the EU really are.

Could it be that we actually started spending our money on the poor instead of building up an enormous army? Probably not, I'm afraid.

According to the objectives of the UN every rich nation has to pay at least 0,7 % of the gross national income, but great nations pay far far less! The US is the worst, only paying 0,12 % last year. The average is only 0,23 %!

To compare, we actually pay 0,97 % of our gross national income in Denmark, and that number is decreasing also.

So while we are all getting richer and richer, simultaneously we reduce our contribution to the poor countries.

 

 

pharzon..

[Zmid]

ok, number one we have instruments that can detect extremely tiny radioactive emmisions. not to say this is proof, but it something was taped under a chair, we would know it.

 

however, you can block the radioactive emmisions from nuclear and biological weapons. very easy to do.

Not completely. If you go into the shielded buildings/containers/whatever where the materials were stored and took samples and readings, traces of radiation and chemicals would still be detected even if the materials themselves had been moved. Before the war, UNIMOVIC was passed intelligence from the UK and US of 'WMD sites', went in, searched them thoroughly, took readings and samples, and found nothing, not even the traces I describe above.

 

i agree with you, that there probably were womd, but not on a large of a scale as everyone thought pre-iraq, and for the first part of the war.

 

I rather doubt they did exist, even disregarding the points I have made above, because Saddam may be an evil psycho, but he is not stupid. He was well aware that he was facing the threat of half the world invading Iraq if WMD was found, and he was facing the same threat unless he co-operated with UNSCOM, and, later, UNIMOVIC, so I think he did have WMD at one point (some of which was sold to him by us), but got rid of it somewhere in the early 90s.

[surian]

well, he didn't get "rid" of all of it in the 80s. We recently found some remains of 15 year old cheimcal weapons in Iraq. As far as I know they were completely unusable though and had USA stamped on the front. Hence, the lack of much coverage in the US on what could otherwise have been a great story for the Bush administration.

[Zmid]

well, he didn't get "rid" of all of it in the 80s.

I said early 90s. ;)

[Dark_Link2135]

Well ok, just to set everything straight, when i said taped under a chair i kinda used that as an example. Basically i meant it was like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

ok, sorry if i got a bit too harsh, thought you were using that as a prime example. but yes, you are correct, its like the proverbial needle in a haystack.

 

its going to be exactly like red alert 2. einstein is going to invent a time machine and inadvertently prevend the cold war from ending, and russia will invade!!!!!

[Dinin]

I think a good thing to point out is that going into iraq was not a completely bad idea, but it was not a completely good idea as well. I think that the death toll has reached too high for what we were trying to accomplish, but something had to be done with Saddam sooner or later. And since what happened on 9/11, Bush decided to take action and make it sooner. And yes theres the arguement about what the U.S. went into iraq for: gas, WMD, Saddam himself. Personally I think it was all of those, and yes, Bush wanted the WMD the most. I mean, you just have to ask yourself, how powerful would Saddam have become had we not gone into Iraq. If Saddam had the power to follow in Hitler's footsteps except choose a different target to mass murder (Americans), i'm quite sure he would do that, and that just scares me.

[Icefiddell]

I very much doubt that Saddam would have ever become a second Hitler. I mean what power did Saddam have outside his own borders, he was a dictator and yes very evil in his actions but he could of never of reached a super power.

[Dark_Link2135]

I very much doubt that Saddam would have ever become a second Hitler. I mean what power did Saddam have outside his own borders, he was a dictator and yes very evil in his actions but he could of never of reached a super power.

this is exactly what people thought about hitler before he invaded poland.

 

and of course polands calvary was extremely, extremely good, but not when faced with panzers :P