strange glitches/bugs near rivet city

[darksoul2142]

The problem I have is that it seems to always occur near Rivet City. After fast traveling to Rivet City or even as I would say going even near it till the Jefferson Memorial texture and mesh problems start-up Either the pipboy map goes all pink or the pipboy markers on the map go pink. My armor/clothing and weapons get affected too. In the pipboy their icons are all pink and when equipped they take the form of a red exclamation mark (texture problem I know). Either the armor/clothing or the weapons are affected sometimes even both. The funny thing is that any weapon equipped when the save file has loaded is perfect but upon reequipping Voila! red exclamation mark. At first I thought Anchorage Frozen Armory mod( a weapon's cache placed near Rivet City) was the problem but even after disabling and deleting it the problem does not go away. A second hitchbacking problem in the same area occurs(and at the same time too) the interaction button is broken it won't start any conversations or activate the intercom near the bridge. Though entering buildings and other areas works. *SIGH* I am going mad with this problem. I am in desperate need of help.

 

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[M48A5]

The problem you are having is caused by the Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch. I have seen this same problem discussed across the Fallout 3 Forum. However, I do not now nor have I ever used the UF3P, so I can't direct you to the fix. If you do some research in the discussion posts for the mod, I sure you can find the cure.

[prensa]

M48A5 - Hello!

"The problem you are having is caused by the Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch. "

No, I use the UF3P & have never seen such an issue.

Perhaps you are thinking of the known bug with the Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp, that can cause crashing on saves in the Rivet City/Project Purity area?

It can be easily fixed with FO3Edit by following these instructions:

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?showtopic=401813

It never causes a texture or missing mesh problem.

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darksoul2142 - Hello!

Your problem of previously fine textures & meshes dropping out combined with that massive load order make me think you are experiencing a bug that kicks in at around 255 mods.

Fallout 3 & even previous Bethesda games seem to have a limit of 255 mods after which textures & meshes can randomly fail leading to messed up textures & missing mesh symbols.

Some people get this issue with less than 255 mods, some speculate that the number of .bsa's may be part of the reason too.

There's been lots of discussion of this issue on the Nexus over time, a thread with it can be found here:

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/137862-mod-limit/

You should try running with a big batch turned off, just to see if the problem goes away.

If it does you'll have confirmed the cause, try weeding out unneeded mods from your load order to try & reduce your load.

You can save some plugins by unticking & deleting these:

Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp=1
Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.esp=1
Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp=0
Mart's Mutant Mod - Dynamic Player Scaling.esp=1

As they are all built into the:

Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

That you already have.

Hope this helps!

Prensa

Edited April 22, 2013 by prensa

[darksoul2142]

I mean why Rivet City? Why not any other place? This is really confusing and by the way thanks for the help. I will try to get to Rivet City on foot no fast travel. Gonna take pictures of my problem.

[prensa]

darksoul2142 - Hello!

"I mean why Rivet City? Why not any other place?"

Rivet City is often a troublsome area, it's got an intensive texture for the carrier's hulk that often produces a notable slow down for many even with vanilla games.

I've seen people who use high res texture replaces be fine everywhere else but get crashing at Rivet City because it was just too much with the extra load in that location.

If you're experiencing the maximum mod bug it could be most notable around Rivet City for that reason, Rivet City's already a high stress area.

So if you've got a high res texture replacer that's another thing to look into. You can just remove the High res Rivet City textures if you are using one & see if it helps.

Of course, with as many mods as you have, you can't rule out that there is a faulty or clashing one somewhere in there.

I count 269 plugins you've got there, you need to reduce that number as problems start at 255 & sometimes below even that.

Hope this helps!

Prensa

[darksoul2142]

<p>Okay I count 227 but still I have this problem (sorry if I sound whiny). I tried to go on foot *HEH* but by the time fallout 3 crashes other reasons (I know). And btw should I just untick the mods in NMM that I have merged? And I have an attachement of the BOSS log freshly done 7 minutes ago.</p> Edited April 23, 2013 by darksoul2142

[prensa]

darksoul2142 - Hello!

 

"Okay I count 227 but still I have this problem"

 

As a test, uncheck a bunch of mods so that you are down to about 100 - 120 plugins just to see if the problem goes away.

 

If the problem is gone, you can slowly add back in mods, checking in game to see if the trouble returns.

 

Keep in mind that the max number of mods bug is textures & meshes dropping out. Crashing could be caused by other things.

 

"btw should I just untick the mods in NMM that I have merged?"

 

The max mod bug applies to how many single plugins you have.

 

If you've merged plugins of a few mods together, that's better as it will count as a single plugin. Many smaller mods, like ones that add single items, can be safely merged to reduce plugin count. However some mods, particularly big mods don't like being merged.

 

Hope this helps!

 

Prensa

[darksoul2142]

So I can easily assume that merging together MMM would pretty much screw up everything. Would re-installation of the whole game and every single mod I have solve any problems? I hope so because most of the problems I had in the past disappeared upon re-installation. I would try that too.