Help on INI/Mods: Skyrim Freezing/CTD/Low FPS

[lgvereor]

I put this off as long as possible, I've been playing and modding Skyrim since it came out now with little or no issue, but my last (attempted) playthrough was the first time I dabbled in INI and ENB modding. I'm having constant (~10 minutes) freezing, crashing, along with a drop to 25FPS from 60.

 

Specs:

Processor: Intel® Core i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
Memory: 16384MB RAM (16GB)
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 (3GB)

BOSS Order:

Update.esm Active
Dawnguard.esm Active
HearthFires.esm Active
Dragonborn.esm Active
AmethystHollowsMaster.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active
JSwords.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Active
LevelersTower.esm
moonpath.esm
SPIKE.esm Active
WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm
portal2mod.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Active
mjollfacelift-v4-1-Blonde.esp
Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active
Morning Fogs.esp Active
RevampedExteriorFog.esp Active
Supreme Storms.esp Active
ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp Active
Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp Active
SoundPropagationOverhaul.esp Active
mintylightningmod.esp
Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp Active
enhanced soundtrack 01.esp Active
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active
alchemysatchels.esp
Auto Unequip Helmet.esp Active
Better Embers.esp Active
BirdsHF.esp Active
bloodierCombatv1.1.esp Active
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active
Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp Active
Chesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp Active
drop dg elderscrolls.esp
FishingInSkyrim.esp
Fixed Followers.esp Active
GiveADogAHome.esp
hqsnow.esp Active
huntingprofit.esp
ImprovedSkillBooks.esp
improvedquestbooks.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp Active
UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
Mannequins.esp
moonpath_tp.esp
MoreHunting.esp
MoreWar.esp
MoreGrass.esp Active
Point The Way.esp Active
RealShelter.esp Active
Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp
SabreFurBag.esp
ScenicCarriages.esp
smithing&clothings_variety_mod.esp
whistle.esp
AdventurersAndTravelers.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
Character Creation Overhaul.esp Active
Footprints.esp Active
WetandCold.esp Active
WetandCold - Ashes.esp Active
SkyUI.esp Active
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp Active
amuletsofthedivines.esp Active
BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp Active
calyps-razorarmor.esp Active
Cloaks.esp Active
CraftableClothes.esp Active
Daedric Mage Armor.esp Active
daedric_phelm.esp Active
DaedricCrossbow.esp Active
DragonboneCrossbow.esp Active
Dragon Bone Mage Armor.esp Active
DragonfireCrossbow02.esp Active
DragonHideRobeArmor.esp Active
dragonpriestmasks.esp Active
DwarvenShooter.esp
DwemerRifle.esp
Evil MasterMind Armor.esp Active
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active
Insanity's Sorrow.esp Active
Knight Of Thorns Armor.esp Active
KTAAncientShroudedArmor.esp Active
LeatherBackpackBlack-100.esp Active
LeatherBackpackBrown-100.esp Active
LeatherBackpackDarkBrown-100.esp Active
LostLongSwords.esp Active
Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp Active
NightingaleCrossbow.esp Active
Northborn Fur Hoods.esp Active
One handed Crossbow.esp Active
PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp Active
RedguardKnight.esp Active
Ritual Armor of Boethiah.esp Active
SamuraiArmor.esp Active
SeraticArmor.esp Active
SilverDragonArmor.esp Active
skyforgedShields.esp Active
Skyrim Knights.esp Active
tbmChrysamere.esp Active
throwingweapons.esp Active
Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp Active
Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp Active
Unique Uniques.esp Active
VRHood.esp Active
Dr_Bandolier.esp Active
Dr_BandolierDG.esp Active
ImmersiveArmorsNPCs.esp Active
ERSO 03 - Slighty Mighty Dragons.esp
ERSO 03.1b - Slighty Mighty Dragonborn Addon.esp
ERSO 04 - Mighty Odahviing.esp
ERSO 04.2 - Mighty Durnehviir.esp
ERSO 05 - Dovah Holy Book.esp
ERSO 06 - Wait More Time Dragon Encounter x2.0.esp
ERSO 07 - Slighty Mighty Dragon Priests.esp
ERSO 09 - Vendor Trainer Quest-giver protected.esp
AmethystHollowsUpdate.esp
BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp
betterinns.esp
crimeenchanced.esp
Elvenwood.esp
HavenBag.esp
KRZ - Better Archmage Quarters.esp
moonpath_questdata.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
Realistic Gold Weight.esp
AchieveThat.esp
betterfactionscomplete.esp Active
bleedeffects.esp Active
BlockSparkles.esp Active
Brighter Campfires X15.esp Active
CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp Active
CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp
crossbows for the empire.esp
dynamic fires.esp
DynamicMerchants.esp
Essential dogs v2.esp
Headtracking.esp Active
Lawrens RNG Guards.esp Active
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active
Spells Cast Light.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp Active
WayOfTheMonk.esp
NerniesCityandVillageExpansion.esp Active
NerniesRangerPack.esp Active
NerniesThiefPack.esp Active
detailed outskirts.esp Active
Detailed Cities.esp Active
SkyrimSewers.esp Active
Open Cities Skyrim.esp
OCS + Skyrim Sewers.esp
Realistic Lighting.esp Active
Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp Active
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp Active
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp Active
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp Active
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp Active
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp Active
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp Active
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-8.esp Active
abotFiresHurt.esp Active
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Active
MidasSkyrim.esp
nighteyetoggle.esp
dovahkiinrelax.esp
InvestedMagic.esp
Enchanting Freedom.esp
ShenkThieveryOverhaul.esp
Duel - Combat Realism.esp
Locational Damage.esp Active
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp Active
private_nokillblur_test.esp
ArcheryDummyXP.esp
CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp Active
perksbymatope.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
AzarHair.esp
bald hair.esp
Beards.esp
Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp Active
Improved Freckles Skyrim.esp Active
Horses for followers.esp
HothFollower.esp
Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
Blaze Of Eventide.esp
KhajiitChildren.esp
My_Little_hatchling.esp
My_Little_kitty_non_replaced.esp
Better Follower Improvements.esp
CompilationV1.esp Active
BFFAnimalCompanions.esp
FollowerWander2.esp
marriagemod - alpha v3.esp
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
Spousetocustomhome.esp
FollowersAlwaysEquipFromInventory.esp
FollowerWander2Serana.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp Active
Purewaters.esp Active
PurewatersDG.esp Active
PurewatersDB.esp Active
WATER.esp Active
WATER Plants.esp Active
GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp Active
DeazurainLoadout.esp
bome-divorce.esp

khajiit-mara.esp

realcompanions.esp

stormcloakrobes.esp

HearthfireMultiKid.esp

imperialrobes.esp

[MPX] NPC Gender Race Heights +DG-DB.esp Active

MVABasic.esp

MilkHearthfire.esp

helmofysgramor.esp

sneYiska.esp

Guard Patrols - Dragonborn.esp

Immersive Stonehills.esp Active

Immersive Shors stone.esp Active

Immersive Rorikstead.esp Active

Immersive Riverwood.esp Active

Immersive Morthal.esp Active

Immersive Kynesgrove.esp Active

Immersive Karthwasten.esp Active

Immersive Ivarstead.esp Active

Immersive Falkreath.esp Active

Immersive Dragon Bridge.esp Active

Immersive Dawnstar.esp Active

Immersive Darkwater crossing.esp Active

FrostflakeRetreat.esp Active

Bards&Merchants.esp

Krev The Skinner's Mantle by Hothtrooper44.esp

HeartBreaker.esp

Aries&Tombstone.esp

Dwemer Beards.esp

Skyrim.ini Settings:

[General]
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If I turn off the ENB in-game, I don't see a change, so my assumption is the ENB is not the cause.

 

Edited April 26, 2013 by lgvereor

[Rennn]

Turn your ugrids back to 5, go back to a save before you switched it to 7, and see if that fixes it. Altering the ugrids is notoriously crashy and save-breaking.

In your Skyrimprefs, set bfloatpointrendertarget=1 before you do anything with ENB or shaders.

And half of those threaded loading ini tweaks don't help performance consistently, and may even hurt it depending on who you ask and their specs.

One last thing...
Ihaven't tried this myself, so I can't be sure, but having this set for trees is likely to murder your framerate with a rusty spoon.
bForceFullDetail=1

Edited April 26, 2013 by Rennn

[lgvereor]

Okay I tried bfloatpointrendertarget=1 and I am getting real and constant CTDs now, no more basic freezing every 10 minutes. I tried bForceFullDetail=0 and it didn't change anything, same with ugrids.

[lgvereor]

ENB site said use injector instead of wrapper if you are having crashes with bfloatpointrendertarget=1, I tried, same issue. My ENB was working as far as I could tell without it, what exactly is the root cause of needing it?

[Georgiegril]

My guess is not that you have 1 thing causing your problem, but that you are running too many things. YOu are using a ton of mode that affect light, fx, scripts, number of people/creatures/encounters, plus ENB plus 7 ugrids.

Returning to 5 ugrids from 7 is not a simple matter. Removing the many mods I just mentioned for testing purposes can cause script problems, and deactivating them does not actually remove their effects in all cases, so this makes troubleshooting hit-or-miss.

 

My suggestion is that you decide what you really cant live without, go back to vanilla skyrim (the STEP guide has info on this) , start a new game and slowly start adding 1 or two changes to your mods, ini files, etc, run BOSS (if it is a mod) and play through a bit before adding the next. If you run into a problem, stop there, and either fix the problem or remove the mod. I do not think you will be able to achieve a stable game with your current settings. Even people with nice cards are not able to make unlimited changes--there are limitations to the game engine, etc.