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Okey, these are the mods I decided to try...

 

 

 

 

  • Skyrim.esm Active
  • Update.esm Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
    • Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
  • Dawnguard.esm Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 607 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
  • HearthFires.esm Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 171 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
  • Dragonborn.esm Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 57 ITM, 8 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
  • ApachiiHair.esm Active
  • ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active
  • JSwords.esm Active
    • Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012). A fixed and cleaned version can be obtained here.
  • Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Active
    • Note: Use the Dawnguard version of Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm to have changes made to Dawnguard.
    • Contains dirty edits: 24 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
  • SPIKE.esm Active
  • WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 66 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
  • HighResTexturePack01.esp Active
  • HighResTexturePack02.esp Active
  • HighResTexturePack03.esp Active
  • Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
  • Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
  • Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active
  • Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
  • Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active
  • Clanking Armor.esp Active
  • randomthunder.esp Active
  • Weapons and Armor fixes.esp Active
    • Error: Delete. Already included in Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
  • Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp Active
  • StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active
  • StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp Active
  • TradeBarter.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
  • Babettes Feast v1_2.esp Active
  • BirdsHF.esp Active
    • Note: Obsolete. Update to the latest renamed version, BirdsHFclean.esp
    • Contains dirty edits: 368 ITM, 2 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
  • Birdsofskyrim.esp Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 32 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
  • Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active
  • Dual Sheath Redux.esp Active
    • Requires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+
  • Immersive Battles.esp Active
  • Immersive Brigands.esp Active
  • Immersive Dawnguard.esp Active
  • Immersive Factions.esp Active
  • Immersive Mercenaries.esp Active
  • Immersive Patrols.esp Active
  • Immersive Travelers.esp Active
  • Immersive Werewolves.esp Active
  • Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0.esp Active
  • SIDT.esp Active
  • Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
  • Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp Active
  • Convenient Horses.esp Active
  • Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Active
  • DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp Active
    • Note: Make sure you have not switched DoF off in your ini file. If you don't see any effect, open you Skyrimprefs.ini and look for 'bDoDepthOfField'. Make sure it is set to 1.
  • Footprints.esp Active
  • IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp Active
  • RaceMenu.esp Active
  • RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active
    • Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.
  • WetandCold.esp Active
  • SkyUI.esp Active
  • iHUD.esp Active
  • Cloaks.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
    • Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
  • 1nivWICCloaks.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
  • 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
  • hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
    • Contains dirty edits: 7 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
  • isilNarsil.esp Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 17 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
  • JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp Active
  • Dr_Bandolier.esp Active
  • DeadlyDragons.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
  • DeadlyMonsters.esp Active
  • SkyRe_Main.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}
    • Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here.
    • Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'
    • Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.
    • Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:
    • Note: [Actor]
    • Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000
    • Note: [Combat]
    • Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64
    • Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64
    • Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0
    • Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0
  • SkyRe_Combat.esp Active
  • SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Active
  • SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Active
  • SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
  • SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Active
  • SkyRe_Survivalism.esp Active
  • buildablehouse.esp Active
  • flaho_shi_eagles_nest_ENG.esp Active
    • Warning: This file contains 1 deleted NavMesh record that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.
  • Immersive Events.esp Active
  • Run For Your Lives.esp Active
  • BetterQuestObjectives.esp Active
  • BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp Active
  • BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp Active
  • Distant Detail.esp Active
    • Error: Use Distant DetailHF.esp
  • Headtracking.esp Active
  • Immersive Weapons.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
  • Proper Aiming.esp Active
  • SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp Active
  • dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active
  • dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active
  • EnhancedLightsandFX.esp Active
  • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 18 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
  • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp Active
  • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp Active
  • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 9 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
  • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
  • Imp's More Complex Needs.esp Active
  • BabettesFeast - IMCN.esp Active
  • Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 11 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
  • ASX_Spells.esp Active
  • MidasSkyrim.esp Active
  • DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Active
  • FNISspells.esp Active
  • Duel - Combat Realism.esp Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
    • Note: Obsolete. Update to the latest version.
  • DragonCombatOverhaul.esp Active
  • dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp Active
  • 3DNPC.esp Active
  • RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Active
    • Requires: RND_UniqueBoozeBottles-Patch.esp
  • RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active
  • RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp Active
  • RND_USKP-Patch.esp Active
  • RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active
  • EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp Active
  • HothFollower.esp Active
  • UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active
    • Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.
    • Contains dirty edits: 18 ITM, 0 UDR records Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
  • UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 18 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
  • UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 29 ITM, 18 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
  • UFO - AllwaysDrawWeapons.esp Active
  • Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Active
  • PC Exclusive Animation Path - Argonian.esp Active
  • PC Exclusive Animation Path - Breton.esp Active
  • PC Exclusive Animation Path - DarkElf.esp Active
  • PC Exclusive Animation Path - HighElf.esp Active
  • PC Exclusive Animation Path - Imperial.esp Active
  • PC Exclusive Animation Path - Khajiit.esp Active
  • PC Exclusive Animation Path - Nord.esp Active
  • PC Exclusive Animation Path - ORC.esp Active
  • PC Exclusive Animation Path - RedGuard.esp Active
  • PC Exclusive Animation Path - WoodElf.esp Active
  • SkyRe_Races.esp Active
  • ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp Active
    • Incompatible with: SkyRe Races. A compatibility patch is available here.
    • Contains dirty edits: 6 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
  • WATER.esp Active
  • WATER Plants.esp Active
  • WATER DB Waves.esp Active
  • RND_Water-Patch.esp Active
  • ReProccer.esp Active

 

 

 

And I get these two errors (and some warnings) which can be seen on the list. Should I be okey?

 

 

Plugin Type Count

Recognised (or sorted by user rules) 129

Unrecognised 3

Inactive 0

All 132

 

Plugin Message Type Count

Warning 3

Error 2

All 59

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Usually the dirty edits and bash tag suggestions can be safely ignored. However, the other warnings you have must be corrected or you will have problems with the game.

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I also get tons of dirty files but if I use TES3Edit I just get thousands of errors which I just cant seem to sort out...

When cleaning a file in TES5Edit, you should only load the file your cleaning and it's explicit dependencies (which IIRC, are automatically loaded if they're available).

 

The big thing that needs cleaning there is the UDRs as they can cause major issues if a mod loading further down in your list tries to alter a reference that was deleted in a plugin loaded before it.

 

The ITMs can also cause issues but rarely are they as troublesome as the UDRs can be.

 

If you get an error for a particular file while trying to load it into Edit, feel free to post a PrintScreen image of it here and someone should be able to point you in the right direction.

 

Onto the next issue, you need to get Wrye Bash and make a Bashed Patch. You have a lot of mods that alter leveled lists and without a bashed patch, only the last version of a list will take precedent. Bash will combine them for you.

 

And that deleted NavMesh warning could be a big problem if any other mod in your load order relies on that particular NavMesh.

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Thanks for your reply's, very much appreciated!

I tried for 3 hours yesterday to clean the warning files it with TES5Edit doing this:


1. Open TES5Edit.
2. A window will pop up with all your mods listed. Right-click it and select 'Select None'. This will de-select all the mods. You can then go through and check only the mod you want to clean. Master files should automatically be selected.
3. Hit Ok and wait for everything to load.
4. Once loaded, right-click the mod name, and select 'Apply Filter for Cleaning'. Wait again.
5. Once done, right-click mod again, and select 'Remove Identicle to Master Records'. Wait.
6. Same as above, but select 'Undelete and Disable References'. Wait.
7. Close TES5Edit. A window should pop up asking if you want to save. Select 'yes'.
8. Rinse and repeat for each plugin you want to clean.

but I still get the same issues again and again when using BOSS. I tried to install Wrye Bash but it got a error on startup, tried to look in the log to see what the error was but it was just a page with a lot of strange commands which didnt make any sence. Have been trying for almost one week now to get some mods going using this list as a base

http://www.reddit.com/r/skyrim/comments/124sg6/the_list_of_the_best_must_have_mods_for_skyrim/

I installed every mod in this order which insane0hflex recommends but still I get tons of errors/warrnings, dirty files and UDR... Getting very frustrating this :(

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Another problem is that NMM seems to stop working every time I try to deactivate every mod to start from scratch again and just dont wanna start up. I try to reinstall everything but when I try to manually import all the mods to NMM, all the name gets mixed up resulting in a big mess so I need to download every mod again to get the correct mod name. Hehe, this is the main reason I have spend almost a week trying to play skyrim with mods :(

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Another problem is that NMM seems to stop working every time I try to deactivate every mod to start from scratch again and just dont wanna start up. I try to reinstall everything but when I try to manually import all the mods to NMM, all the name gets mixed up resulting in a big mess so I need to download every mod again to get the correct mod name. Hehe, this is the main reason I have spend almost a week trying to play skyrim with mods :(

 

 

  • Distant Detail.esp Active
    • Error: Use Distant DetailHF.esp

 

 

As per our chat - if NMM is giving you trouble - use Wrye Bash. Bit more complex but better IMHO.

 

Also on the mod I listed there - use the Hearthfire edition - you might run into issues with the standard one.

 

Also UFO has horse management built in - so you don't need convenient horses.

 

Personally, I would rather use Amazing Follower Tweaks + Convenient Horses than UFO.

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Thanks all for your help, especially you monkinsane! I redid my mod list using just mods I found on GEMS (so no quest or texture mods for now) and I used mods which didn't overwrite other mods to make things less complicated for a poor mind like mine.

 

Here is the result:

 

 

 

 

  • Skyrim.esm Active
  • Update.esm Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
  • Dawnguard.esm Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
  • HearthFires.esm Active
  • Dragonborn.esm Active
  • ApachiiHair.esm Active
  • 3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm Active
  • ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active
  • JSwords.esm Active
    • Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012). A fixed and cleaned version can be obtained here.
  • Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Active
  • SPIKE.esm Active
  • HighResTexturePack01.esp Active
  • HighResTexturePack02.esp Active
  • HighResTexturePack03.esp Active
  • Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
  • Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
  • Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active
  • Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
  • Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active
  • StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active
  • StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp Active
  • TradeBarter.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
  • 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
  • BirdsHFclean.esp Active
  • Birdsofskyrim.esp Active
  • Dead Body Collision.esp Active
  • Dual Sheath Redux.esp Active
    • Requires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+
  • ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp Active
  • Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
    • Note: That users of versions below 5.1.1 should also include the Relev tag.
  • Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Active
  • Tytanis.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
  • Convenient Horses.esp Active
  • Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Active
  • Character Creation Overhaul.esp Active
  • DEAsprint&jump.esp Active
    • Note: Won't work if sprint/jump key is remapped to mouse button.
  • DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp Active
    • Note: Make sure you have not switched DoF off in your ini file. If you don't see any effect, open you Skyrimprefs.ini and look for 'bDoDepthOfField'. Make sure it is set to 1.
  • Footprints.esp Active
  • RaceMenu.esp Active
  • RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active
    • Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.
  • WetandCold - Ashes.esp Active
  • SkyUI.esp Active
  • iHUD.esp Active
  • Cloaks.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
  • 1nivWICCloaks.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
  • 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
  • hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
  • JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp Active
  • LeftHandRings.esp Active
  • LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp Active
  • PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
  • PrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
  • 3rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
  • Dr_Bandolier.esp Active
  • Weapons & Armor_Fixes.esp Active
  • Lock Overhaul.esp Active
  • DeadlyDragons.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
  • DeadlyMonsters.esp Active
  • Run For Your Lives.esp Active
  • CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp Active
  • CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp Active
  • Headtracking.esp Active
  • Hypothermia.esp Active
  • Immersive Weapons.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
  • SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp Active
  • dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active
  • dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active
  • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp Active
  • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp Active
  • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp Active
  • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp Active
  • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp Active
  • Imp's More Complex Needs.esp Active
  • NPCsUseAmmoAllBows.esp Active
  • Better Vampires.esp Active
  • Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Active
  • MidasSkyrim.esp Active
  • BFSEffects.esp Active
  • ForgottenMagic.esp Active
  • ACE Realistic Fighting.esp Active
  • Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp Active
    • Note: Use only one Dual Wield Parrying*.esp
  • Dodge Mod.esp Active
  • DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp Active
  • Locational Damage.esp Active
  • The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp Active
  • ACE BYOG.esp Active
  • ACE Speech.esp Active
  • CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp Active
  • ACE Archery.esp Active
  • ACE Armor.esp Active
  • ACE Enchanting.esp Active
  • ACE Magic.esp Active
  • ACE Melee.esp Active
  • ACE Smithing.esp Active
  • ACE Synergy.esp Active
  • ABT - Loot Arrows +50%.esp Active
  • ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp Active
  • ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp Active
  • ABT - Merchants Arrows +50%.esp Active
  • ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (BS and CCO) +100%.esp Active
  • ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (BS and CCO) +100%.esp Active
  • ABT - Recover +50% Arrows and Bolts.esp Active
  • vDynamicDifficulty.esp Active
  • Sneak Tools.esp Active
  • Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp Active
  • Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp Active
  • dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp Active
  • Sit Anywhere.esp Active
  • HothFollower.esp Active
  • EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp Active
  • AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Active
  • Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Active
  • CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp Active
  • ASIS-Dependency.esp Active

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How does the load order look like after BOSS sorted it? obviously I have NO idea, skyrim.esm could have been on the bottom for all I know.

 

I really don't wanna start the game and find out that everything have gone to the far side of the moon just because I missed an a "easy" (look who is talking) thing like load order.

 

In advance, thanks for reading :)

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How does the load order look like after BOSS sorted it? obviously I have NO idea, skyrim.esm could have been on the bottom for all I know.

 

I really don't wanna start the game and find out that everything have gone to the far side of the moon just because I missed an a "easy" (look who is talking) thing like load order.

 

In advance, thanks for reading :smile:

 

Pleasure, just glad I can help spare someone the hassle of getting to LVL 50+ ands having to abandon a Character due to crashes. :p Happened to me a lot. It's not that I don't know any better - it's just that I'm a compulsive modder! ( Oh, that looks cool - I'm gonna add it to my list of mods :p ) I just cannot keep myself from Modding the living crap outta Skyrim LOL.

 

 

 

Ok, Looks good.

 

Just one thing, make sure that Arrows & Bolt Tweaks don't conflict with ACE's Archery component - if they both change the same things - ABT will override ACE in your case.

 

 

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