larade Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Hi all, I'm experiencing a very weird CTD. So far the game has been working flawlessly, but now it crashes, as far as I can tell, when it reaches a certain amount of time played. I took an earlier save and played it until it roughly reached the same amount of time played as the earlier crash. And it just goes CTD without any warning, different locations. The game is unplayable now!! :( I'm not a very experienced user so I don't know where to start with the debugging... I would very much like to try and save myself the trouble of a full reinstall and starting up a new character. I have activated the Papyrus log:[05/03/2013 - 03:18:54PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)[05/03/2013 - 03:18:54PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)[05/03/2013 - 03:18:54PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)[05/03/2013 - 03:19:02PM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1scwispwallscript", missing file?[05/03/2013 - 03:19:02PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC2BenthicLurkerFXSCRIPT", missing file?[05/03/2013 - 03:19:04PM] Error: Unable to bind script DLC2WaterScript to (0401AAD8) because their base types do not match[05/03/2013 - 03:19:58PM] VM is freezing...[05/03/2013 - 03:19:58PM] VM is frozen I have all the DLC's, all the mods are up to date and sorted with BOSS. My mod list follows, there are no spoilers, I just wanted to hide the wall of text. GameMode=SkyrimSkyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1ApachiiHair.esm=1ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1GeneralStores.esm=1MTAutoStorage.esm=1SPIKE.esm=1HmmWhatToWear.esm=1HmmWhatToWearDawnGuard.esm=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1AzarHair.esm=1RaceCompatibility.esm=1FM - HaafingarHall.esm=1HighResTexturePack01.esp=1HighResTexturePack02.esp=1HighResTexturePack03.esp=1brawlbug-plugin.esp=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1Economics of Skyrim.esp=1Economics of Skyrim - Dawnguard.esp=1Enchanters Merchant v1_1.esp=1ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp=1GeneralStoresVlindrelHall.esp=1GeneralStoresBreezehome.esp=1GeneralStoresHoneyside.esp=1GeneralStoresProudspire.esp=1NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp=1Nocturnal Craftable Armors.esp=1smithing&clothings_variety_mod.esp=1AdditionalAmulets.esp=1AllowAmuletRing.esp=1AmbrosiaFashions.esp=1AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp=1Battledress Armor.esp=1BlackSacramentArmor.esp=1BloodWitchArmor.esp=1Cloaks.esp=1Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1CraftableHoods.esp=1DemonHunterArmor.esp=1Dread Huntress Armor.esp=1DreamBurrowsRegalAssassin.esp=1Earrings Set1.esp=1Field Mage Craftable Armor.esp=1Field Mage Outfit.esp=1GDRangerDress.esp=1Gri_Scarf_and_Gugel.esp=1hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1HoodsAndCirclets.esp=1HuntressArmor.esp=1iorvethlightarmor_v_1_3.esp=1LeftHandRings.esp=1LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp=1GDJewels.esp=1LustmordVampireArmor.esp=1Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp=1nightshade_armor.esp=1Light Elven Armor.esp=1DunmerThief.esp=1StarExpandedJewelry.esp=1Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp=1VampireLeatherArmorSet.esp=1SGEyebrows.esp=1betterriften.esp=1ColovianGunder.esp=1CornerofTheSkyrim.esp=1FarviewCabin.esp=1OpulentOutfitsV2Universal.esp=1OpulentOutfitsSet1Dark_UniversalAddon.esp=1aGreyLedgeManorLITE.esp=1hideoutcompact.esp=1LimbwoodManor.esp=1Reaper's The Dark Tower.esp=1Run For Your Lives.esp=1seabreezeestate.esp=1The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1Vjarkell Castle.esp=1seranahoodfix.esp=1ExpandedCarriageService.esp=1Headtracking.esp=1Klimmek the Small Time Trader of Ivarstead.esp=1pf_lightfootcompanions.esp=1FarvynsDivineOctavo.esp=1NerniesCityandVillageExpansion.esp=1Candlespell.esp=1WaterwalkingSpell.esp=1Waterwalking.esp=1Detect Spells with Duration.esp=1dovahkiinrelax.esp=1BardandGuards.esp=1Brows.esp=1dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1LadyKdCirclets.esp=1Point The Way.esp=1The Ningheim.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp=1Candle Pond Ranch.esp=1LovelyHairstylesLITE.esp=1Svs Super Collection Jewelry.esp=1Sit Anywhere.esp=11nivWICCloaks.esp=11nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1FM - HHall Exterior.esp=1FM - UNP Merchants.esp=1rorikstead_merchant.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1WetandCold.esp=1MacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.esp=1Babette.esp=1TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1PurpleEyes.esp=1BlairsAfterGlowFashion.esp=1zzTmBallGown.esp=1zzMaidOutfits.esp=1GDElvenScout.esp=1GDAttire.esp=1Luddemann.esp=1followers keep up.esp=1My Home Is Your Home.esp=1FollowerWander2.esp=1FollowerWander2Serana.esp=1getSnowy.esp=1GSFortDawnguard.esp=1GSHearthfireHousesOutdoor.esp=1TrueDestruction.esp=1SecretServantCapacity.esp=1barmaidamuletfix.esp=1Unique Villages Dawnstar Retexture.esp=1Unique Villages Falkreath Retexture.esp=1Unique Villages Ivarstead Retexture.esp=1Unique Villages Karthwasten Retexture.esp=1Unique Villages Shors Stone Retexture.esp=1The Mod Configuration Menu.esp=1KTABladeOfWoe.esp=1SpecialHairs.esp=1HN66mage4vanilla.esp=1UNP Jewelry Variants V3.esp=1Queen of the damned-Akasha Dress.esp=1TavernClothes-MTM.esp=1MessiasVampireArmorRoyalRetexture.esp=1DudestiaOutfitChanger.esp=1OreMerchant.esp=1detailed_whiterun.esp=1FAMP2.esp=1UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp=1UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp=1roriksteadexpanded.esp=0bardsfix.esp=0brandsheiprisonfix.esp=0testmod01.esp=0battleflute.esp=0 Any ideas? 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prod80 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Doesnt look like mod conflict, your Papyrus is pretty clean, something in the game is suppose to happen @ that time but doesnt :SWeird..... Are you doing a specific quest when it happens perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larade Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 It's a fairly new character, level 21, I was just exploring around Falkreath and Whiterun, I haven't been farther. The first time it started crashing, it happened while in Knifepoint Ridge. The second time, I took a different area to explore, so now it happens at the Sleeping Tree Camp. It's so frustrating! And I'm clueless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiegril Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Crashes that are time related often are caused by automatic processes/services (like autoscans, autoupdates from antivirus programs, etc.), or related to hardware issues like overheating, memory.You might check to make sure you have disabled your processes/services, put your av in gamemode, etc.Also, have you checked your VRAM/RAM use and temps in game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larade Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 How do I check the VRAM / RAM use and what are the temps? I have a pretty decent computer, I don't think it eats up the memory, but of course, I'm willing to check it, maybe it is related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiegril Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Well, depending on your video card, you can use whatever you use to adjust your video card settings for checking your VRAM usage and temps (temperatures). You can find your RAM usage in the task manager of Windows. If you play in windowed mode you can check these while playing. You can also use something like Riva Tuner, or CPU-Z. Even if you are unable to get them to superimpose their info onto the game (I have never been successful with this) you can have them set up logs that you can see after exiting the game. The STEP guide has a good explanation of how to benchmark your game, and links to the programs I mentioned. Actually, the whole guide is really amazing, even if you don't follow it religiously. The main cause of high temperatures is dust. You may benefit from blowing your computer out with some canned air. All it takes is a barely perceptible layer of dust to negatively affect performance and increase the chance of static charges causing chaos. Also, you didn't mention--are you using something to turn off background apps/processes/services? Gamebooster is popular, though I prefer to do this manually. If you are not, then the problem could simply be something like your antivirus kicking in an auto-update or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larade Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 I usually don't use anything to turn off processes, but I have tried it now (I have Zone Alarm that has a game mode), but the crashes are still there. I will look at the guide and see what I can come up with, thank you. Just in case, my comp: Intel Core i5-3570 CPU @ 3.40GHz, 16GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larade Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 Just to clarify a bit, it took from a certain save to crash a playing time of about an hour - the first time when I first encountered the problem and the second time when I took a different route of playing... Afterwards it just crashes, when I load the saves close to the crashing time. That's why I don't think it has anything to do with the computer's performance... :(((( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blk811 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Hello, first of all I´m not english speaker, so I apollogice for my kickass english. Well, are you using Wire Bash? This mod manager detects conflicts between mods and aware you from mods that has missing .esm or .esp. And I think yoru mod list is a bit huge. My game crasheswhen using hi-res txtpack and other hi-res mods, but my computer is an abbacus. Your computer must be a monster to carry wit this mod list. Try to clean repetitive mods (hair, etc...) I wish you good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larade Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 So far I have only relied on NMM. I know it has some issues, but it worked for me. I will try to install Wrye Bash and see if it detects some major conflicts. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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