Riven1978 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I had a question similar to this that no one answered. Mine was would it be illegal if I exported the possibilty to blow up megaton to people in Japan so that way they can do it on their game even though it was removed from the japanese version since they were sensitive about hiroshima and Nagasaki. as for your models. bringing in and putting into oblivion wouldnt be illegal. you just cant sell it and you have to explain that bethsoft created these models and that you take no credit in the work other than putting it together. but can anyone answer my japan question its driving me crazy! I don't see where that would conflict with the licensing copyrights, Think of it this way they already sell the blowing up megaton packaged in a other countries game, who would say that someone in japan would buy the game in English and do it themselves (the Mod i mean) it just gives them the option to do it instead of Beth having the legal complications that go with it Really the answer to both of these i would say go ahead and try it. But. keep in mind if they even hint at telling you to take it down don't hesitate for a sec, cause then they could pull some B.S. that you were refusing to adhere or crap like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellao Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I don't see where that would conflict with the licensing copyrights, Think of it this way they already sell the blowing up megaton packaged in a other countries game, who would say that someone in japan would buy the game in English and do it themselves (the Mod i mean) it just gives them the option to do it instead of Beth having the legal complications that go with it Really the answer to both of these i would say go ahead and try it. But. keep in mind if they even hint at telling you to take it down don't hesitate for a sec, cause then they could pull some B.S. that you were refusing to adhere or crap like that sounds reasonable... I never planned on makeing a mod I was just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyro Paul Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 the legality questions arise because as adding a mod which contains data of another game, technically you would need already own the information of both programs to use it. and since there is no real way to check weither or not a person downloading the mod owns both games they would just imply that doing so is bad and leave it at that. their ultimate fear is basically, you are giving Their game content away for free. and as a company, they want to get paid for what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatexeo Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The reason it is illegal to use oblivion's data for anything Fallout 3 is because some of the data used IN Oblivion does -NOT- belong to Bethesda. They got rights to use it once, for oblivion. Similar to movie music. just because a company buys the rights to use Iron Man by Black sabbath in the movie iron man does -not- give them full permission to use it whenever they want in every movie they make. So, making a mod that required you to use the assets from another game entirely would stillllll be illegal. Grey area at best, and when it comes to Grey, its simpler for Beth to say "sorry, no." to avoid getting sued by the people they borrowed the stuff from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riven1978 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The reason it is illegal to use oblivion's data for anything Fallout 3 is because some of the data used IN Oblivion does -NOT- belong to Bethesda. They got rights to use it once, for oblivion. Similar to movie music. just because a company buys the rights to use Iron Man by Black sabbath in the movie iron man does -not- give them full permission to use it whenever they want in every movie they make. So, making a mod that required you to use the assets from another game entirely would still be illegal. Grey area at best, and when it comes to Grey, its simpler for Beth to say "sorry, no." to avoid getting sued by the people they borrowed the stuff from. But if you read the question he asked there would be no downloading the "illegal content" This would be a MOD soley for use by people that do OWN oblivion already and you have to do the finishing touches to the MOD yourself. as long as the actual oblivion "or any other game" data is not uploaded to be used then it is one of those technicalities, that you cant really say he is doing anything illegal, he is making a game for people who own whatever game themselves and would like to have that experience. Now you can also take a look at the Chuck Norris companion MOD out there and see that it holds the flower shirt and likeness "as good or bad as it may be" and i am sure he did not get permission for its use, however it is still be downloaded for use. so there again you can maybe see that this is a FAN based community; and as long as the "blame" isn't put on Bethesda or any other company, for the use of the content, or any complaints, I would say their view is Non-action. Now as i said before, If they do get a complaint or harassment, they are in every right allowed to tell you to remove it. Which being that we are in the age of the lawsuit, they would definitely give you the chance to remove it, before further action was taken (who's to say if they all out sue you for the use they could possibly anger a lot of their fan base by doing so which in turn would hurt them in sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zip2k4 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 there's a solution out of this "legal rights" problem. not that i'd be quick and easy to do though. just make a new mesh, texture then integrate it into a creature that you make up yourselves. so it is a made-from-scratch kind of thing, this will eliminate any and all problems with legal rights. not that people are willing to do it, since it's time consuming :[ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlFromHell Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I think the OP means that if he made his own textures and meshes that would be identical to the ones in Oblivion. I.E. He recreates a creature from Oblivion from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zip2k4 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 hehehe cowgirl i hate u!u always corrected me i never read the whole post :P but if it's recreating then no legal issues should comes up since IT IS your mesh, tex, file, etc. so yea it's good to go :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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