Randomly 'dying' after looting

[Cait833]

Hi, I have just got back into Skyrim after a long time, sorted out my mods over a couple of days, started a new game, and soon found myself sometimes entering a permanent paralysis of sorts after closing a loot menu. It seems like such a bizarre, but harmless happening - kind of comical actually. It does not attempt to load the last save, nor does it freeze, it simply stays on the death-cam allowing for me to quick-load to just before the looting.

 

Has anyone else had this issue at all?

 

I'll post my load order if need be.

[ripple]

You know the drill. Post your BOSS log (with the messages), include the list of plugins not recognized by BOSS if one is generated. Enclosed in spoiler tags so they don't clutter the screen.

 

When you say 'paralysis' I assume you do not mean that the game 'freezes', but just that your character can't move (while the game continues to run and NPCs continue to move about)?

Edited May 7, 2013 by ripple

[Cait833]

Hmm, I think it may have to do with either Lootification, Harvest Overhaul or Vini's Legit Food & Rest, since they are all of the loot related mods that I have never used prior to this.

Yep, when I say paralysis, I mean than the character simply falls over or springs up and then falls whilst the deathcam is trained on him. Right now it does not seem so random since it only starts once inside the 'hall' before you have to lower the bridge in helgen keep, and what's worse is that couldn't escape it see if it happened outside because when Ralof gave me the bow and arrows it happened as well. >.<

But anyway here's my hefty load order (this is the only repeatable issue I have had so far):

 

Skyrim.esm Active

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• Dragonborn.esm Active
• AzarHair.esm Active
• Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm Active
• ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active
• Ket_ARMONIZER_v2.esm Active
• Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Active
• Lootification.esm Active
• SPIKE.esm Active
• Vigilant of Stendarr Quests Master.esm Active
• vinis_food_and_rest.esm Active
• HighResTexturePack01.esp Active
• HighResTexturePack02.esp Active
• HighResTexturePack03.esp Active
• Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
• Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active
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• Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active
• Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
• Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Active
• Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active
• DFG's Blade & Dagger Sheathe Sounds_Dawnguard.esp Active
• ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp Active
• Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp Active
• SoundPropagationOverhaul.esp Active
• FootstepsSoundsOverhaul.esp Active
• mintylightningmod.esp Active
• MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp Active
• fantasy music overhaul.esp Active
• fantasy music overhaul - unique town music.esp Active
• StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active
• StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp Active
• 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
• Babettes Feast v1_2.esp Active
• Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp Active
• BirdsHFclean.esp Active
• Birdsofskyrim.esp Active
• Book Covers Skyrim.esp Active
• BooksBooksBooks.esp Active
• Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active
• Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp Active
• Chesko_WearableLantern_Candle_DG.esp Active
• Chesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp Active
• CookingExpanded.esp Active
• CookingExpanded - Hearthfire.esp Active
• ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp Active
• GSTH.esp Active
• I5K Skull Hunt.esp Active
• ImmersiveBountyHunting.esp Active
• ImprovedFishBASIC.esp Active
• Ish's Souls to Perks.esp Active
• JK Crafting Breakdown.esp Active
• lovecraftbooks.esp Active
• Moss Rocks.esp Active
• ORM-Arvak.esp Active
• Prides of Skyrim.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
• RealShelter.esp Active
  • Warning: This file contains 1 deleted NavMesh record that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.
• ScaryBooks.esp Active
• skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp Active
• Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
  • Note: That users of versions below 5.1.1 should also include the Relev tag.
• Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Active
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• Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active
• SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp Active
  • Note: Use only one SkyrimImprovedPuddles esp.
• SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
• Tamriel Compendium - Skill Books.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
• Tamriel Compendium.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
• Tamriel Compendium Skill Book Version.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
• Traps Make Noise.esp
• Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp Active
• Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp Active
• Footprints.esp Active
• Footprints - Ash.esp Active
• RaceMenu.esp Active
• RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active
  • Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.
• WetandCold.esp Active
• WetandCold - Ashes.esp Active
• SkyUI.esp Active
• ArgonianMercArmor.esp Active
• BadGremlinsJarHunt.esp Active
• BloodWitchArmor.esp Active
• Cloaks.esp Active
• Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp Active
• 1nivWICCloaks.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
• 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Active
• DragonbornArmorFix.esp Active
• Elemental Staves.esp Active
• Evil MasterMind Armor.esp Active
• hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
• imp_helm.esp Active
• imp_helm_dawn.esp Active
• Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp Active
• Tales of Tamriel - Merchants.esp Active
• Thanatos Dragonx.esp Active
• TheDovahDictionary.esp Active
• thedovahphrasebook.esp Active
• HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonborn.esp Active
• HarvestOverhaulCreaturesDawnguardHearthfireDragonborn.esp Active
• SkyRe_Main.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}
  • Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here.
  • Requires: Skyrim -Community- Uncapper for full perk functional
  • Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'
  • Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.
  • Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:
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  • Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000
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  • Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64
  • Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64
  • Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0
  • Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0
• SkyRe_Combat.esp Active
• SkyRe_CraftingFix.esp Active
• SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Active
• SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Active
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• Unique Uniques.esp Active
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• ESFCompanions.esp Active
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• Mages College Quests.esp Active
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• Run For Your Lives.esp Active
• When Vampires Attack.esp Active
• SkyrimChimneysRW.esp Active
• Tame Beast.esp Active
• The Drunkard Drinks v1.00.esp Active
• The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Active
• Unique Places.esp Active
• Vigilant of Stendarr Quests.esp Active
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• AchieveThat.esp Active
• armored-horses.esp Active
• Arvak Dark Power Voice power version.esp Active
• BetterQuestObjectives.esp Active
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• BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp Active
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  • Requires: Better Skill and Quest Books Names
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• NonEssentialChildren.esp Active
• OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp Active
• SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp Active
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• SkyRealism - Grass.esp Active
• SkyTEST-RealisticAnimalBehavior.esp Active
• dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active
• dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active
• TheChoiceIsYours.esp Active
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• BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp Active
• aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp Active
• ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Cities - Falkreath.esp Active
• AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp Active
• CinematicFireFX.esp Active
• Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp Active
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• Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp Active
• Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp Active
• Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp Active
• ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active
• ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active
• dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Active
  • Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.
• Diseased.esp Active
• SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp Active
• SkyRealism - Encumbrance.esp Active
• vinis_food_and_rest__loot.esp
• vinis_food_and_rest__cooking.esp Active
• vinis_food_and_rest.esp Active
• vinis_food_and_rest__vendor.esp Active
• Better Vampires.esp Active
• Predator Vision.esp Active
• BloodmoonRising.esp Active
• WerewolfMastery.esp Active
• WerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6.esp Active
• WerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6b.esp Active
• BFSEffects.esp Active
• Clear Skies Fix - CoT version.esp Active
• DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Active
• spellsneak.esp Active
• DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp Active
• Horsemen.esp Active
• Horsemen Combat Enhancement.esp Active
• Locational Damage.esp Active
• GDO_Plugin_SkyRe.esp Active
• Improved Dragon Shouts.esp Active
• StavesofSkyrim.esp Active
• Vampirelordroyal.esp Active
• dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp Active
• Beards.esp Active
• Brows.esp Active
• Iridum Eyes NRT.esp Active
• 3DNPC.esp Active
• HothFollower.esp Active
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• CompanionValfar.esp Active
• EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp Active
• EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp Active
• SkyRe_Races.esp Active
• Vampire Skin Color Fix.esp Active
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• WATER.esp Active
• WATER Plants.esp Active
• WATER DB.esp Active
• Waves.esp Active
• Atlas Map Markers.esp Active
• Atlas Blackreach.esp Active
• Atlas Dawnguard.esp Active
• Atlas Hearthfire.esp Active
• Atlas Dragonborn.esp Active
• Bashed Patch, 0.esp Active
• Automatic Variants.esp Active
• LLI.esp Active
• ReProccer.esp Active
• ReProccerNONPLAYERfix.esp Active
• ReProccerDragonborn.esp

 

Lanterns Of Skyrim - CoT Nights lvl 8.esp Active

• JK Crafting Breakdown - Hearthfire.esp Active
• Wrath Of Nature.esp Active
• Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp Active
• HarvestOverhaulSalmonRoe.esp Active
• Bigger Baddder Bears(SkyRe) - Ranger Edition - Bigger.esp Active
• SkyRe_HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonbornPatch.esp Active
• Luddemann.esp Active
• SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.esp Active
• SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dragonborn.esp Active
• BVandRB_Formlist.esp Active
• ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp Active
• RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp Active
• Reptilian Feet.esp Active
• Malkavs_Collection_V21.esp Active
• RCFIS.esp Active
• CorrectGenderAnimations.esp Active
• CorrectGenderAnimations-DG.esp Active
• CorrectGenderAnimations-DB.esp Active

Real Shelter has been stated as having no issues by the mod author. I sort out all of the unrecognised ones that have instructions or already have similar, sorted mods. The rest I just place above WATER.

Thank you for your help.

I just got Viva Pinata, so I'll be playing that in the mean time.

Edited May 7, 2013 by Cait833

[ripple]

Are you using any body replacer or animation mods that do not come with plugins?

[Cait833]

Hmm, I thought it would be loot related, but perhaps...
Well, it could possibly be down to either '360 walk and run plus', 'correct gender animations', 'D13 faster get up stand up' or 'immersive animations'. I do use various other one, but those are not new and have worked.

I'll try uninstalling all but 360 walk and run or faster get up to see if it has any effect.

 

I'm going to guess that it might be an animation conflict, or immersive animations since most of the optional files need the XPMS and duel sheath redux, which I don't use, but yet did not choose any that mentioned them - perhaps the author forgot... I'm hoping.

Edited May 7, 2013 by Cait833

[boononnexus]

if your just getting back id start a clean save and run OMSMTS (one mod scientific method trouble shooting)

[ripple]

It's easiest to test and see if it's the animation or body replacers mods, so I'd recommend you start there. They are easy to install/uninstall and don't leave orphan data in save games so they can be uninstalled and reinstalled without causing any issues. I am not familiar with 'lootification' but 'loot' mods tends to edit only leveled lists and should not cause the sort of issue you are describing. Try uninstalling all of your animation mods, see if it fixes the issue. If it does, then you can add them back one at a time until you find the culprit.

[Cait833]

And this, my dear people, is why we archive our install.

 

That definitely didn't work... i uninstalled all animation mods, reprocced and whatnot, and started a new game, but still falling over with my tail stuck in the air... great ragdoll physics there Bugthesda...I love you, please don't glitch me!

 

I'm going to try a clean install and just add from there... it just boggles me o.O

 

Tomorrow...zzz...

Edited May 7, 2013 by Cait833

[ripple]

Before you do a full reinstall, try and remove Realistic Ragdoll. Although I've never heard of RR users experiencing the issue you described, what you describe points to these 'types' of mods. Also, can you think of any mods in your load order that adds 'drunken' state to your character? Something like Realistic Needs and Diseases (but you don't seem to be using that), or 'kill move' type mods?

Edited May 8, 2013 by ripple

[Cait833]

I'll try that then, and Vini's Legit Food & Rest has an inebriation system, so there's that too. I'll remove both and give it a go.