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Where did all the ceramic plates go?


1maxkillen

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I've been playing Morrowind for years now. I'm kind of OCD and like to sort out all the plates and bowls and put them in individual barrels in my castle kitchen . I put all the ceramic plates, pitchers, and cups in one container. The same holds true for all the wood utensils, glass utensils, pewter, redware, and silverware. I started a new game and put together over a hundred mods into and now the bowls are just entitled bowls; not wood bowls, or ceramic bowls, etc. The bowls are different color; but that's all; not mention on type or material that they are made from. Since Morrowind by itself has no meshes or textures folders in the data files; I've had to put the problem in my self.

 

Anything stand out as a mod that would change all the names for kitchenware:

001_ Morrowind.esm
_002_ Tribunal.esm
_003_ Bloodmoon.esm
_004_ TheTroubleWithMilie.esm
_005_ Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esm
_006_ Morrowind Advanced.esm
_007_ MetalQueenBoutique.esm
_008_ Book Rotate.esm
_009_ Havish.esm
_010_ Castle_Hestatur-V1.esm
_011_ BT_Whitewolf_2_0.esm
_012_ Tamriel_Data.esm
_013_ Cyrodiil_Main.esm
_014_ Wyrmhaven.esm
_015_ OAAB_Data.esm
_016_ Even Seedier Eight Plates.ESP
_017_ MarenMabrigash.ESP
_018_ Seekers Faction v2.0.esp
_019_ Investigators_Trib.esp
_020_ Djangos Dialogue.ESP
_021_ Imperial Employment Office (MD edits).esp
_022_ Census_and_Excise_Office_Faction.ESP
_023_ Clean_Mines & Caverns.esp
_024_ Zainab_burial_caverns.esp
_025_ Urshilaku Burial Caverns Overhaul.ESP
_026_ Morrowind Code Patch Showcase.esp
_027_ LGNPC_Merged_Lt.esp
_028_ Clean Black Queen Chronicles Ver 2.2.esp
_029_ Clean Black Queen Chronicles Ver 2.2 Jiub Head.esp
_030_ Clean jet_gold_armor.esp
_031_ Clean Kynareth.esp
_032_ Clean Arkay.esp
_033_ Clean Akatosh.esp
_034_ Clean Dibella.esp
_035_ Dragonscale Armor v2.esp
_036_ Clean Mara.esp
_037_ Doom_Door_01.esp
_038_ BAR_DarkshroudKeep_v1.2.esp
_039_ Korobal v1.1.esp
_040_ abotTempusFugitRing.esp
_041_ Floating_City_Ver1.esp
_042_ K_Potion_Upgrade_1.2.esp
_043_ Ebonheart_Underworks.esp
_044_ abotMoveOrTakeMyPlace.esp
_045_ Lothavor's Legacy.esp
_046_ Lothavor's Legacy BB addon.esp
_047_ Hla Oad Expanded.ESP
_048_ Havish Mini Patch.esp
_049_ Alakazar's Lamp_no_music.esp
_050_ Accurate Attack.esp
_051_ Skooma pipe re-texture.ESP
_052_ Norn Full.esp
_053_ Encumberance increaser StrX25.esp
_054_ Full Jenova's Children.ESP
_055_ LGNPC_SecretMasters_v1_30.esp
_056_ MDP - Khuul - 1.0.ESP
_057_ master_index.esp
_058_ Theurgist.esp
_059_ Annastia V3.3.esp
_060_ RR_Better_Ships_n_Boats_Eng.ESP
_061_ RR_Holamayan_Eng.ESP
_062_ Clean_TrueDrenPlantation_1_1.esp
_063_ brokenglass.esp
_064_ tusar_v1.2.1.esp
_065_ Vivec_Lamps_Shop_1.02.esp
_066_ Dracus's Durzog Armor Tribumal V1.1.esp
_067_ SirLuthor-Tools.esp
_068_ Martistan's Castle.esp
_069_ hauntedbridgefixed.esp
_070_ Mournhold Clockmaker 1.0.esp
_071_ ME_TTWM.esp
_072_ Mournhold, The Great Bazaar.esp
_073_ Lich Father Act I.esp
_074_ Lich Father Act II.esp
_075_ Mournhold Expanded.esp
_076_ Temple Transport.esp
_077_ Clean To Serve Sithis_.esp
_078_ MoreGems.esp
_079_ Adventurers Guild.esp
_080_ Seyda Supplies 1.1.esp
_081_ The Raven.esp
_082_ OJAI - Framerate Version.esp
_083_ The Sable Dragon 1.7.esp
_084_ Wymrhaven - Grass.esp
_085_ SewerCanalBridges.esp
_086_ MDP 2016.esp
_087_ SG_Way_of_the_Talon_2_3.esp
_088_ The Lamp.esp
_089_ SeydaNeenManorHouse.ESP
_090_ Solstheim Rumor Fix - Fixed.esp
_091_ No More Slaughterfish.ESP
_092_ tusar_v1.2.1(bloodmoon addon).esp
_093_ BEER!.esp
_094_ Imperial_Legion_Expansion.esp
_095_ Seyda Neen Docks_Patch.ESP
_096_ Clean Solstheim_Castle_v1.1.esp
_097_ Clean SCastle_LoKKen_Patch.esp
_098_ Horror Mod.esp
_099_ Kaylas_Kick-Knacks.esp
_100_ Fair Magicka Regen 2.0b.esp
_101_ House Of Secrets 1.0.esp
_102_ AB_cutlery_retex.esp
_103_ Leyawiin 1pt1.esp
_104_ Natural Healing.esp
_105_ Better Bodies.esp
_106_ dark_glass.esp
_107_ Superman Armor.esp
_108_ Gloom Armor v1.0.esp
_109_ Quick Char.esp
_110_ Xenterra_Keep_v1.esp
_111_ Limitless Attributes v1.0.esp
_112_ Book Jackets - Morrowind - BookRotate.esp
_113_ Clean Tales of Seyda Neen.esp
_114_ Ravenloft_v0502d.esp
_115_ Spok_Paintings_Pack_1.esp
_116_ Castle_Hestatur-V1-Sorters.esp
_117_ Castle_Hestatur-V1-TB_addons.esp
_118_ RunFaster-Faster.ESP
_119_ W_Balmora Candle Shop IV - CD.esp
_120_ Vurt's BC Tree Replacer II.ESP
_121_ LeFemmArmor.esp
_122_ The Rivera_Clean.ESP
_123_ Mistress TIlani Mod_v2.esp
_124_ mel_teleportPlugin_1_3.esp
_125_ PMR - Sea of Destiny 1.1.ESP
_126_ THE_UNDERGROUND_2.esp
_127_ South Wall.ESP
_128_ Cupid or Stupid.esp
_129_ korsuth.esp
_130_ Indexes.ESP
_131_ MW_Adv_Required.esp
_132_ Orrutus Cavern 2.0.esp
_133_ Better Skulls.ESP
_134_ Hla Oad.esp
_135_ aldruhnmagesguildexpansion.esp
_136_ mel_teleportPlugin_1_3_Patches.esp
_137_ Magical Missions.ESP
_138_ Hlaalu Business v1.0.esp
_139_ ReptileInseparableSiblings.esp
_140_ ring_teleport v3.esp
_141_ Skill Progress v2_bdf.esp
_142_ Clean The Badass Birthsign.ESP
_143_ TradeDisputes.esp
_144_ Graphic Herbalism.esp
_145_ Broadsheets and Notice Boards.ESP
_146_ Arkngthand_2.0.esp
_147_ Foodoftamriel.ESP
_148_ Merchant Gold Reset - Instant.esp
_149_ MTC.esp
_150_ Rift Town 2.5.esp
_151_ Morrowind Figurines.esp
_152_ Cyrodiil_Grass.ESP
_153_ Regulus Figurine Hunt.ESP
_154_ City of Balmora.ESP
_155_ Very rich Creeper and mudcrab.esp
_156_ Full-fledged Dagon Fel Mages Guild.ESP
_157_ Antares' Mages Robes.ESP
_158_ Illuminated Order v2.0 - Lore Friendly.ESP
_159_ XE Sky Variations.esp
_160_ Join All Houses.esp
_161_ House of Mannequins v1.0.esp
_162_ Booze for Purist.esp
_163_ Clean_nevena's twin lamps & slave hunters 1.5.esp
_164_ Oluhan V1.13.esp
_165_ House of Mannequins - Mistform fix.esp
_166_ Book Rotate - Tribunal v5.3.esp
_167_ Book Rotate - Bloodmoon v5.3.esp
_168_ Balmora_Guild_Door.esp
_169_ acsBier.esp
_170_ TheBlackMill11.esp
_171_ Lilarcor_v4-1.esp
_172_ acsSunsiBBShirt.esp
_173_ Haldenshore_1.2.esp
_174_ Lived Towns - Seyda Neen_Patch.esp
_175_ Seyda Neen Slums_Patch.ESP
_176_ Immersive Mournhold.ESP
_177_ BLLDV_MW_ONLY.esp
_178_ Creeper's Quest.esp
_179_ DXM_masterindex_journalfix.esp
_180_ Fabulous Suran Ver.1.0.1.esp
_181_ multipatch.esp
Edited by 1maxkillen
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In the vanilla game, the plates are just "Plate". Only the three silverware plates have a different name. Were you previously using a mod that changed their names?

 

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Clutter

 

These are all just "Plate".

 

misc_com_metal_plate_03
misc_com_metal_plate_04
misc_com_metal_plate_05
misc_com_metal_plate_07
misc_com_metal_plate_07_UNI1
misc_com_metal_plate_07_UNI2
misc_com_plate_01
misc_com_plate_02
misc_com_plate_03
misc_com_plate_04
misc_com_plate_05
misc_com_plate_06
misc_com_plate_07
misc_com_plate_08
misc_com_redware_plate

 

It's the same with bowls. Except for the LImeware Bowl, the Ceramic Bowl (which you need for a quest), the Silverware Bowl, and a few specific Redware bowls, they're all just "Bowl" in vanilla.

 

misc_com_redware_bowl
misc_com_redware_bowl_01
Misc_Com_Wood_Bowl_01
misc_com_wood_bowl_02
misc_com_wood_bowl_03
misc_com_wood_bowl_04
Misc_Com_Wood_Bowl_05
misc_de_bowl_01
misc_de_bowl_white_01

Edited by ProfArmitage
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I have several games that I have played saved. They all all various and different mods and scenarios. Only a couple of the Morrowind games have the non-named kitchenware; they rest have "named" kitchenware (pewter dishes, decorative plates, etc.) I tried copy and pasting the textures and meshes and icons from the games that had the "named" plates and pasting them into the Morrowind game that have the no-name plates. Nothing happened; everything remained the same. I can't find any different .esp in the games; and I kind of ruled out meshes and textures by the copying and pasting. Don't remember what mod I used to "name" the plates. I'm going on 77 and my memory sucks. I would appreciate any and all help

Edited by 1maxkillen
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The named objects are a matter of plugin.

 

Look for mod conflicts with TES PCD then deactivate one of the conflicting mods and you should find the one that renames the ceramic plates.

 

You can easily cancel the changes the other brings with tools like Morrowind enchanted editor.

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