ripple Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Can you replace your load order with a BOSS log (with the messages)? Include the list of plugins not recognized by BOSS if one is generated. Every time you install or uninstall a mod, you should rebuild your compatibility patches (e.g. Bashed Patch, AV patch, ReProccer). Before you install a new mod, you should always check to see if it comes with scripts (download a BSA viewer if you have to), and if it does, consider carefully if you really want to use the mod (at least, make sure you have at least one save prior to installing that mod which you can return to if you want to uninstall it after some testing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repzaj1234 Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 (edited) On 5/9/2013 at 7:49 PM, ripple said: Can you replace your load order with a BOSS log (with the messages)? Include the list of plugins not recognized by BOSS if one is generated. Every time you install or uninstall a mod, you should rebuild your compatibility patches (e.g. Bashed Patch, AV patch, ReProccer). Before you install a new mod, you should always check to see if it comes with scripts (download a BSA viewer if you have to), and if it does, consider carefully if you really want to use the mod (at least, make sure you have at least one save prior to installing that mod which you can return to if you want to uninstall it after some testing).I guess I wasn't really careful in choosing my mods... When I rebuilt my Reproccer the startup CTDs went away, but I couldn't load my save for some reason. It CTDs on every save so I just restored my Reproccer.esp backup. And had to bring back Hypothermia, EOS and SIM to remove the startup CTD. It seems the Delinquent master tag is the culprit. Why do you think it CTDs on loading my save when I rebuilt my ReProccer? • 88 ReProccer.esp• Delinquent Master: Economics of Skyrim.esp• Delinquent Master: SabreFurBag.esp• Delinquent Master: SIM- NPC Additions.esp• Delinquent Master: SIM - NPCSUBMITTED.esp• Delinquent Master: Hypothermia.esp• Delinquent Master: Hunterborn.esp So far I've only fixed the ASIS errors but I've greatly reduced the number of error logs by fixing that alone. BOSS Log: Reveal hidden contents Skyrim.esm Active Checksum: C665FD56 Update.esm Active Checksum: ECA91BE5* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Dawnguard.esm Active Checksum: 7FC614C8* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Dragonborn.esm Active Checksum: 31200F46 CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm Active Checksum: B3BD8B51* Note: Obsolete. Update to the latest version. ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active Checksum: 918881A7 Omegared99-Compilation.esm Active Checksum: D0FB1A5D SkyMoMod.esm Active Checksum: 13472FFD SPIKE.esm Active Checksum: 418D8B2F FixedEyeAdaption.esp Active Checksum: C91A15F Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active Checksum: D587AE3C Better Dynamic Snow.esp Active Checksum: F3204EF1 Morning Fogs.esp Active Checksum: B66B01E5 BWS.esp Active Checksum: D596F02A ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp Active Checksum: 75A1B6EA Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp Active Checksum: 7409094B LIAT - Sounds.esp Active Checksum: 68EB2F* Contains dirty edits: 43 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). Thundering Shouts.esp Active Checksum: D596F02A CLARALUX - LightAdjuster - Medium Lights and Radius w Shadows.esp Active Checksum: A27A82AF* Note: Use only one LightAdjuster.* Note: Obsolete. Update to latest version. realrainCoT.esp Active Checksum: E987B24C mintylightningmod.esp Active Checksum: 9603C31F MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp Active Checksum: F513130 Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp Active Checksum: A64545AF Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp Active Checksum: 2491B755 fantasy music overhaul.esp Active Checksum: FA0711C6* Contains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). fantasy music overhaul - unique town music.esp Active Checksum: 46075455 StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active Checksum: 7985AB43 TradeBarter.esp Active Checksum: E9649CDC* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Economics of Skyrim.esp Checksum: 20A8707B* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowerRes_HighSpawn.esp Active Checksum: D9CA4A2C* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Birds.esp Active Checksum: 8E3AABBA Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active Checksum: 8C9864FA Immersive Brigands.esp Active Checksum: 9B75EB36 Immersive Dawnguard.esp Active Checksum: 6BB5EF13 Immersive Patrols.esp Active Checksum: 9318378F LIAT - NPCs.esp Active Checksum: 8EFD5F95* Contains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp Checksum: 8E4BA610* Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/26230")) Point The Way.esp Active Checksum: 4F3B7750 SabreFurBag.esp Checksum: 78D9514B Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Active Checksum: AAEC341E* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}* Note: That users of versions below 5.1.1 should also include the Relev tag. Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Active Checksum: EB429A40* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} SkyMoMod Lore-Friendly Standard No Dragons.esp Active Checksum: 5B6242A3* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}* Note: Use only one SkyMoMod Lore esp.* Requires: SkyMoMod v10 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active Checksum: DD0BF6D4* Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). StormcloakArmorVarietyOPTION1.esp Active Checksum: 5782C684* Note: Use only one StormcloakArmorVariety esp Traps Make Noise.esp Active Checksum: 8777E2C7 ValsCraftingMeltdownAlpha.esp Active Checksum: 9F5FD0C9* Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/26230")) Convenient Horses.esp Active Checksum: C70CE3C SIM- NPC Additions.esp Checksum: B317634E SIM - NPCAdditionsWEREWOLVES.esp Checksum: 28CCA4F1 SIM - NPCAdditionsHOSTILE.esp Checksum: 99E1524C SIM - NPCSUBMITTED.esp Checksum: EF29DF6F Auto Unequip Arrows.esp Active Checksum: C9F20617 Footprints.esp Active Checksum: BFAF15E8 WetandCold.esp Active Checksum: BF56363 SkyUI.esp Active Checksum: BA843F07 iHUD.esp Active Checksum: 6633B25E Cloaks.esp Active Checksum: D8F94C02* Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). 1nivWICCloaks.esp Active Checksum: BCB19816* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}} 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Active Checksum: 6F18DE6E Dragonbone Weapons.esp Active Checksum: 624271E2 Dragonbone Weapons - Faster Arrows.esp Active Checksum: 2A3CAD69 HBetterBows.esp Active Checksum: BBFFDB91 hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active Checksum: 96B29C9D* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}* Contains dirty edits: 5 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). LeatherBackpackDarkBrown-300.esp Active Checksum: A1DFB824* Note: Use only one LeatherBackPack DarkBrown esp Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp Active Checksum: F7CA0176 Medium-40Percent.esp Active Checksum: 3FEB71B8* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}* Note: Use only one optional leveled list. (High, Medium, Standard or Uber) PIVariety.esp Active Checksum: D4CE9D88* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp Active Checksum: 899A2A0D* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}* Incompatible with: SkyRe_Main.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp Active Checksum: 4402F887 DeadlyDragons.esp Active Checksum: E8F826EA* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} ERSO 03 - Mighty Dragons Unleveled.esp Active Checksum: 1B7F8711* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}* Note: Use the compatibility patch ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/13423") for deadly dragons. ERSO 03 - Mighty Dragons Unleveled DG.esp Active Checksum: 5994497A* Note: Use only one ERSO 03 file. ERSO 03 - Mighty Dragons Unleveled DB.esp Active Checksum: F8EC46B6* Note: Use only one ERSO 03 file. ERSO 03 - Mighty Dragons Unleveled DD.esp Active Checksum: 6D3295F1* Note: Use only one ERSO 03 file. ERSO 09 - Vendor Trainer Quest-giver protected.esp Active Checksum: 6A1E9053* Note: Use only one ERSO 09 file. ERSO 10 - RUS-(SIM)-Travellers and Adventurers.esp Active Checksum: 8E9EFCE2 ERSO 10.02 - Adventurers and Travelers.esp Active Checksum: 1E24B565 ERSO 16 - Realistic Crime Alert Distances - SHORT.esp Active Checksum: 88D9CCC2* Note: Use only one ERSO 16 file. SkyRe_Main.esp Active Checksum: D8AE7D8F* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}* Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/9286").* Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'* Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/13652") mod.* Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:* Note: [Actor]* Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000* Note: [Combat]* Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64* Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64* Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0* Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0 SkyRe_Combat.esp Checksum: 64F8FFCD SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Active Checksum: D0C666A8 SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp Active Checksum: 34A69438* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}} SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Active Checksum: 6D86A84F SkyRe_Survivalism.esp Active Checksum: 42046F5C DSAMG - Greybeard Fix.esp Active Checksum: 3EBD73CA exo_WhiterunCaveHouse.esp Active Checksum: 1D0A44EA Immersive Events.esp Active Checksum: 1E0786B Run For Your Lives.esp Active Checksum: 763FC730 SkyrimChimneysRW.esp Active Checksum: 575F8ED2 whiterunMarket.esp Active Checksum: 750461EC FasterArrows75.esp Active Checksum: FF93F7A4 Hypothermia.esp Checksum: AFB1A5ED Immersive Weapons.esp Active Checksum: E41D31D* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}} LegionArmorVariety.esp Active Checksum: 41305CB0* Note: Use only one LegionArmorVariety esp posesivecorpses.esp Active Checksum: 6478E75D SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp Active Checksum: 2E582D9B dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active Checksum: B9F89854* Requires: Skyrim Monster Mod_Compatibility Patch ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/60") \ Dawnguard and Monster Mod. TheChoiceIsYours.esp Active Checksum: DD345CC* Contains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp Active Checksum: D9D90565 Populated Cities 2.esp Active Checksum: C9E59FB1 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp Active Checksum: C90A5C3B Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp Active Checksum: 77CC9091 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp Active Checksum: 3126AAAB Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp Active Checksum: B6C31AA7 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp Active Checksum: BDC66F4C* Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active Checksum: B61E85AE* Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-8.esp Active Checksum: AB5269F4 SoS - The Wilds.esp Active Checksum: C1743294 SoundPropagationOverhaul.esp Active Checksum: DB0BE901 SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp Active Checksum: 809A34DA* Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim-CoT patch.* Requires: Climates of Tamriel ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/17802") SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds.esp Active Checksum: 53090D51* Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim-CoT patch.* Requires: Climates of Tamriel ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/17802") SoS - The Wilds-PatchSPO.esp Active Checksum: 8CFE5757 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Active Checksum: 910FBBF3* Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/16712") for compatibly with other skeleton.nif. RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Active Checksum: DE4E0670 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active Checksum: A554A56D RND_SkyMoMod-Patch.esp Active Checksum: EF9F170E RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active Checksum: 4E8ACF24 SkyRealism - Encumbrance.esp Active Checksum: 31454DF7 ASX_Spells.esp Active Checksum: FF25D36A BFSEffects.esp Active Checksum: 543D56D4 FNISspells.esp Active Checksum: 9CE8669 SkyRealism - Detection Durations.esp Active Checksum: C57419C5 NoSneakAttackSound.esp Active Checksum: 3107A62D DeadlyCombat.esp Active Checksum: 5BE2AED6 Dodge Mod.esp Active Checksum: EF114562 DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp Active Checksum: 25A4058A DragonCombatOverhaulDragonBornPatch.esp Active Checksum: 3BB6F94B The Dance of Death.esp Active Checksum: 50DA6D88* Warning: Dawnguard detected. Use The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp instead. Improved Dragon Shouts.esp Active Checksum: 9F9D899D Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp Active Checksum: 9E6BF019 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp Active Checksum: DD8155A5 HothFollower.esp Active Checksum: A96903E0 Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp Active Checksum: 24658104 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp Active Checksum: 60A0D6B9 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Active Checksum: D6C72A3C SkyRe_Races.esp Active Checksum: 6DABBEE4 getSnowy.esp Active Checksum: 944E55B4 WATER.esp Active Checksum: AADB5181 WATER Plants.esp Active Checksum: 5CE65A9F RND_Water-Patch.esp Active Checksum: 89899C0A Bashed Patch, 0.esp Active Checksum: 7A3A05A9 Automatic Variants.esp Active Checksum: D63FB64D ASIS-Dependency.esp Checksum: A5E9831 ASIS.esp Checksum: 168C3107 SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Checksum: D36506E4 ReProccer.esp Active Checksum: FA5BB828 ======================================Unrecognised Plugins====================================== The following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed. SME - Weights and Values.esp Active Checksum: CBA8CFDD SME - Vendors and Lists.esp Active Checksum: 2C060CE0 TKRecoil.esp Active Checksum: 7D30007 Hunterborn.esp Active Checksum: C98DAE3 Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp Active Checksum: C2B9AB5E SME - Additional Vendors.esp Active Checksum: 24CFD7F7 No Empty Tag on Containers.esp Active Checksum: 77E800E dD-DG-DB-MonsterMod EBT Patch.esp Active Checksum: 3C10641C Grass_On_Steroids_SFO-SHORT.esp Active Checksum: 20215112 ERSO 04.3 - StopDragons.esp Active Checksum: 29DD4388 Quest Eraser_DG.esp Active Checksum: BDDDE5AF YourMarketStall.esp Active Checksum: 352B9CE Edited May 9, 2013 by repzaj1234 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repzaj1234 Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 I checked my save on Wrye Bash, It showed this. Plus all my saves have a red check and box.Missing Masters for: quicksave.essxx Economics of Skyrim.espxx HitStop.espxx Hypothermia.espxx SabreFurBag.espxx SIM - NPCSUBMITTED.espxx SIM- NPC Additions.espThis might be why I'm CTDing upon loading my saves. I already removed them and rebuilt all my patches (AV, ReProccer, Bashed Patch) but they are still appearing on my save. Are they stuck to my save? -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prod80 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 for scripts being stuck in your save game and giving you only the option to start a new game (so, your game is unplayable unstable without workaround... this is a LAST RESORT SOLUTION) you can give this a go: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/31675 All other clutter being stuck; http://skyrim.nexusm...com/mods/31724 make a copy of your save, on which you try this out.... no guarantees tho... I have never tried it, just heard about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repzaj1234 Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 Gah, that looks risky. Better read the comments and feedback first. Thanks for suggesting though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 I was looking through your last BOSS log, and it looks like you still need to clean some of the plugins flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edits.' There are also several error messages that you need to attend to, for example: Quote CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm Active Checksum: B3BD8B51* Note: Obsolete. Update to the latest version. and Quote ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp Active Checksum: BDC66F4C* Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting OverhaulClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active Checksum: B61E85AE* Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting OverhaulThe 'base' CoT module is compatible with RLO, not these 'optional' plugins that edits the same cell and imagespace data as RLO's 'interiors' plugins. Go through the log closely and address every single error message. After you have no more error messages in the log when running BOSS, uninstall all the plugins not recognized by BOSS (you got too much on your plate right now, no need to add those aggravations to the mix), then rebuild your dynamically generated compatibility patches (ReProcer, Bashed Patch, etc.). See if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repzaj1234 Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share Posted May 11, 2013 (edited) For Claralux I learned that it's latest version will break your game. And I've cleaned all my mods, removed all incompatibilities. The results were good, I played for about 2 and a half hours last night CTD and freeze free. I think it was ASIS that was giving me problems, my previous logs had thousands of errors coming from ASIS alone.The thing is I'm still getting errors on my logs but the number of errors has greatly reduced compared to my previous logs, my current errors are mostly coming from those mods I just can't uninstall (Hypothermia, Econo of Skyrim, SabreFurBag, SIM). What is baffling me is why I CTD upon loading any of my save games once I rebuild all my patches without those mods I want to uninstall. Maybe they're already tied to my save game.Thanks for the replies man, appreciate it.EDIT: Played for another 2 or 3 hours today without a single CTD or freeze, the stuttering has been reduced significantly too. Things are looking good! Edited May 11, 2013 by repzaj1234 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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