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Can you replace your load order with a BOSS log (with the messages)? Include the list of plugins not recognized by BOSS if one is generated.

 

Every time you install or uninstall a mod, you should rebuild your compatibility patches (e.g. Bashed Patch, AV patch, ReProccer). Before you install a new mod, you should always check to see if it comes with scripts (download a BSA viewer if you have to), and if it does, consider carefully if you really want to use the mod (at least, make sure you have at least one save prior to installing that mod which you can return to if you want to uninstall it after some testing).

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Can you replace your load order with a BOSS log (with the messages)? Include the list of plugins not recognized by BOSS if one is generated.

 

Every time you install or uninstall a mod, you should rebuild your compatibility patches (e.g. Bashed Patch, AV patch, ReProccer). Before you install a new mod, you should always check to see if it comes with scripts (download a BSA viewer if you have to), and if it does, consider carefully if you really want to use the mod (at least, make sure you have at least one save prior to installing that mod which you can return to if you want to uninstall it after some testing).

I guess I wasn't really careful in choosing my mods... When I rebuilt my Reproccer the startup CTDs went away, but I couldn't load my save for some reason. It CTDs on every save so I just restored my Reproccer.esp backup. And had to bring back Hypothermia, EOS and SIM to remove the startup CTD. It seems the Delinquent master tag is the culprit. Why do you think it CTDs on loading my save when I rebuilt my ReProccer?

 

 

• 88 ReProccer.esp

• Delinquent Master: Economics of Skyrim.esp

• Delinquent Master: SabreFurBag.esp

• Delinquent Master: SIM- NPC Additions.esp

• Delinquent Master: SIM - NPCSUBMITTED.esp

• Delinquent Master: Hypothermia.esp

• Delinquent Master: Hunterborn.esp

 

So far I've only fixed the ASIS errors but I've greatly reduced the number of error logs by fixing that alone.

 

BOSS Log:

Skyrim.esm Active Checksum: C665FD56

 

Update.esm Active Checksum: ECA91BE5

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

Dawnguard.esm Active Checksum: 7FC614C8

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

Dragonborn.esm Active Checksum: 31200F46

 

CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm Active Checksum: B3BD8B51

* Note: Obsolete. Update to the latest version.

 

 

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active Checksum: 918881A7

 

Omegared99-Compilation.esm Active Checksum: D0FB1A5D

 

SkyMoMod.esm Active Checksum: 13472FFD

 

SPIKE.esm Active Checksum: 418D8B2F

 

FixedEyeAdaption.esp Active Checksum: C91A15F

 

Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active Checksum: D587AE3C

 

Better Dynamic Snow.esp Active Checksum: F3204EF1

 

Morning Fogs.esp Active Checksum: B66B01E5

 

BWS.esp Active Checksum: D596F02A

 

ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp Active Checksum: 75A1B6EA

 

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp Active Checksum: 7409094B

 

LIAT - Sounds.esp Active Checksum: 68EB2F

* Contains dirty edits: 43 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

 

 

Thundering Shouts.esp Active Checksum: D596F02A

 

CLARALUX - LightAdjuster - Medium Lights and Radius w Shadows.esp Active Checksum: A27A82AF

* Note: Use only one LightAdjuster.

* Note: Obsolete. Update to latest version.

 

 

realrainCoT.esp Active Checksum: E987B24C

 

mintylightningmod.esp Active Checksum: 9603C31F

 

MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp Active Checksum: F513130

 

Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp Active Checksum: A64545AF

 

Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp Active Checksum: 2491B755

 

fantasy music overhaul.esp Active Checksum: FA0711C6

* Contains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

 

 

fantasy music overhaul - unique town music.esp Active Checksum: 46075455

 

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active Checksum: 7985AB43

 

TradeBarter.esp Active Checksum: E9649CDC

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

Economics of Skyrim.esp Checksum: 20A8707B

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowerRes_HighSpawn.esp Active Checksum: D9CA4A2C

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

Birds.esp Active Checksum: 8E3AABBA

 

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active Checksum: 8C9864FA

 

Immersive Brigands.esp Active Checksum: 9B75EB36

 

Immersive Dawnguard.esp Active Checksum: 6BB5EF13

 

Immersive Patrols.esp Active Checksum: 9318378F

 

LIAT - NPCs.esp Active Checksum: 8EFD5F95

* Contains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

 

 

Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp Checksum: 8E4BA610

* Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/26230"))

 

 

Point The Way.esp Active Checksum: 4F3B7750

 

SabreFurBag.esp Checksum: 78D9514B

 

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Active Checksum: AAEC341E

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

* Note: That users of versions below 5.1.1 should also include the Relev tag.

 

 

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Active Checksum: EB429A40

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

SkyMoMod Lore-Friendly Standard No Dragons.esp Active Checksum: 5B6242A3

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

* Note: Use only one SkyMoMod Lore esp.

* Requires: SkyMoMod v10

 

 

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active Checksum: DD0BF6D4

* Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

 

 

StormcloakArmorVarietyOPTION1.esp Active Checksum: 5782C684

* Note: Use only one StormcloakArmorVariety esp

 

 

Traps Make Noise.esp Active Checksum: 8777E2C7

 

ValsCraftingMeltdownAlpha.esp Active Checksum: 9F5FD0C9

* Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/26230"))

 

 

Convenient Horses.esp Active Checksum: C70CE3C

 

SIM- NPC Additions.esp Checksum: B317634E

 

SIM - NPCAdditionsWEREWOLVES.esp Checksum: 28CCA4F1

 

SIM - NPCAdditionsHOSTILE.esp Checksum: 99E1524C

 

SIM - NPCSUBMITTED.esp Checksum: EF29DF6F

 

Auto Unequip Arrows.esp Active Checksum: C9F20617

 

Footprints.esp Active Checksum: BFAF15E8

 

WetandCold.esp Active Checksum: BF56363

 

SkyUI.esp Active Checksum: BA843F07

 

iHUD.esp Active Checksum: 6633B25E

 

Cloaks.esp Active Checksum: D8F94C02

* Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

 

 

1nivWICCloaks.esp Active Checksum: BCB19816

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

 

 

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Active Checksum: 6F18DE6E

 

Dragonbone Weapons.esp Active Checksum: 624271E2

 

Dragonbone Weapons - Faster Arrows.esp Active Checksum: 2A3CAD69

 

HBetterBows.esp Active Checksum: BBFFDB91

 

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active Checksum: 96B29C9D

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

* Contains dirty edits: 5 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

 

 

LeatherBackpackDarkBrown-300.esp Active Checksum: A1DFB824

* Note: Use only one LeatherBackPack DarkBrown esp

 

 

Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp Active Checksum: F7CA0176

 

Medium-40Percent.esp Active Checksum: 3FEB71B8

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

* Note: Use only one optional leveled list. (High, Medium, Standard or Uber)

 

 

PIVariety.esp Active Checksum: D4CE9D88

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp Active Checksum: 899A2A0D

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

* Incompatible with: SkyRe_Main.esp

 

 

Dr_Bandolier.esp Active Checksum: 4402F887

 

DeadlyDragons.esp Active Checksum: E8F826EA

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

ERSO 03 - Mighty Dragons Unleveled.esp Active Checksum: 1B7F8711

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

* Note: Use the compatibility patch ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/13423") for deadly dragons.

 

 

ERSO 03 - Mighty Dragons Unleveled DG.esp Active Checksum: 5994497A

* Note: Use only one ERSO 03 file.

 

 

ERSO 03 - Mighty Dragons Unleveled DB.esp Active Checksum: F8EC46B6

* Note: Use only one ERSO 03 file.

 

 

ERSO 03 - Mighty Dragons Unleveled DD.esp Active Checksum: 6D3295F1

* Note: Use only one ERSO 03 file.

 

 

ERSO 09 - Vendor Trainer Quest-giver protected.esp Active Checksum: 6A1E9053

* Note: Use only one ERSO 09 file.

 

 

ERSO 10 - RUS-(SIM)-Travellers and Adventurers.esp Active Checksum: 8E9EFCE2

 

ERSO 10.02 - Adventurers and Travelers.esp Active Checksum: 1E24B565

 

ERSO 16 - Realistic Crime Alert Distances - SHORT.esp Active Checksum: 88D9CCC2

* Note: Use only one ERSO 16 file.

 

 

SkyRe_Main.esp Active Checksum: D8AE7D8F

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}

* Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/9286").

* Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'

* Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/13652") mod.

* Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:

* Note: [Actor]

* Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000

* Note: [Combat]

* Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

* Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

* Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

* Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

 

 

SkyRe_Combat.esp Checksum: 64F8FFCD

 

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Active Checksum: D0C666A8

 

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp Active Checksum: 34A69438

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

 

 

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Active Checksum: 6D86A84F

 

SkyRe_Survivalism.esp Active Checksum: 42046F5C

 

DSAMG - Greybeard Fix.esp Active Checksum: 3EBD73CA

 

exo_WhiterunCaveHouse.esp Active Checksum: 1D0A44EA

 

Immersive Events.esp Active Checksum: 1E0786B

 

Run For Your Lives.esp Active Checksum: 763FC730

 

SkyrimChimneysRW.esp Active Checksum: 575F8ED2

 

whiterunMarket.esp Active Checksum: 750461EC

 

FasterArrows75.esp Active Checksum: FF93F7A4

 

Hypothermia.esp Checksum: AFB1A5ED

 

Immersive Weapons.esp Active Checksum: E41D31D

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

 

 

LegionArmorVariety.esp Active Checksum: 41305CB0

* Note: Use only one LegionArmorVariety esp

 

 

posesivecorpses.esp Active Checksum: 6478E75D

 

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp Active Checksum: 2E582D9B

 

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active Checksum: B9F89854

* Requires: Skyrim Monster Mod_Compatibility Patch ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/60") \ Dawnguard and Monster Mod.

 

 

TheChoiceIsYours.esp Active Checksum: DD345CC

* Contains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

 

 

TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp Active Checksum: D9D90565

 

Populated Cities 2.esp Active Checksum: C9E59FB1

 

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp Active Checksum: C90A5C3B

 

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp Active Checksum: 77CC9091

 

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp Active Checksum: 3126AAAB

 

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp Active Checksum: B6C31AA7

 

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp Active Checksum: BDC66F4C

* Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul

 

 

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active Checksum: B61E85AE

* Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul

 

 

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-8.esp Active Checksum: AB5269F4

 

SoS - The Wilds.esp Active Checksum: C1743294

 

SoundPropagationOverhaul.esp Active Checksum: DB0BE901

 

SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp Active Checksum: 809A34DA

* Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim-CoT patch.

* Requires: Climates of Tamriel ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/17802")

 

 

SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds.esp Active Checksum: 53090D51

* Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim-CoT patch.

* Requires: Climates of Tamriel ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/17802")

 

 

SoS - The Wilds-PatchSPO.esp Active Checksum: 8CFE5757

 

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Active Checksum: 910FBBF3

* Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/16712") for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.

 

 

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Active Checksum: DE4E0670

 

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active Checksum: A554A56D

 

RND_SkyMoMod-Patch.esp Active Checksum: EF9F170E

 

RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active Checksum: 4E8ACF24

 

SkyRealism - Encumbrance.esp Active Checksum: 31454DF7

 

ASX_Spells.esp Active Checksum: FF25D36A

 

BFSEffects.esp Active Checksum: 543D56D4

 

FNISspells.esp Active Checksum: 9CE8669

 

SkyRealism - Detection Durations.esp Active Checksum: C57419C5

 

NoSneakAttackSound.esp Active Checksum: 3107A62D

 

DeadlyCombat.esp Active Checksum: 5BE2AED6

 

Dodge Mod.esp Active Checksum: EF114562

 

DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp Active Checksum: 25A4058A

 

DragonCombatOverhaulDragonBornPatch.esp Active Checksum: 3BB6F94B

 

The Dance of Death.esp Active Checksum: 50DA6D88

* Warning: Dawnguard detected. Use The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp instead.

 

 

Improved Dragon Shouts.esp Active Checksum: 9F9D899D

 

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp Active Checksum: 9E6BF019

 

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp Active Checksum: DD8155A5

 

HothFollower.esp Active Checksum: A96903E0

 

Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp Active Checksum: 24658104

 

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp Active Checksum: 60A0D6B9

 

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Active Checksum: D6C72A3C

 

SkyRe_Races.esp Active Checksum: 6DABBEE4

 

getSnowy.esp Active Checksum: 944E55B4

 

WATER.esp Active Checksum: AADB5181

 

WATER Plants.esp Active Checksum: 5CE65A9F

 

RND_Water-Patch.esp Active Checksum: 89899C0A

 

Bashed Patch, 0.esp Active Checksum: 7A3A05A9

 

Automatic Variants.esp Active Checksum: D63FB64D

 

ASIS-Dependency.esp Checksum: A5E9831

 

ASIS.esp Checksum: 168C3107

 

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Checksum: D36506E4

 

ReProccer.esp Active Checksum: FA5BB828

 

 

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Unrecognised Plugins

======================================

 

 

The following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed.

 

SME - Weights and Values.esp Active Checksum: CBA8CFDD

 

SME - Vendors and Lists.esp Active Checksum: 2C060CE0

 

TKRecoil.esp Active Checksum: 7D30007

 

Hunterborn.esp Active Checksum: C98DAE3

 

Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp Active Checksum: C2B9AB5E

 

SME - Additional Vendors.esp Active Checksum: 24CFD7F7

 

No Empty Tag on Containers.esp Active Checksum: 77E800E

 

dD-DG-DB-MonsterMod EBT Patch.esp Active Checksum: 3C10641C

 

Grass_On_Steroids_SFO-SHORT.esp Active Checksum: 20215112

 

ERSO 04.3 - StopDragons.esp Active Checksum: 29DD4388

 

Quest Eraser_DG.esp Active Checksum: BDDDE5AF

 

YourMarketStall.esp Active Checksum: 352B9CE

 

 

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I checked my save on Wrye Bash, It showed this. Plus all my saves have a red check and box.



Missing Masters for: quicksave.ess
xx Economics of Skyrim.esp
xx HitStop.esp
xx Hypothermia.esp
xx SabreFurBag.esp
xx SIM - NPCSUBMITTED.esp
xx SIM- NPC Additions.esp

This might be why I'm CTDing upon loading my saves. I already removed them and rebuilt all my patches (AV, ReProccer, Bashed Patch) but they are still appearing on my save. Are they stuck to my save? -.-
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for scripts being stuck in your save game and giving you only the option to start a new game (so, your game is unplayable unstable without workaround... this is a LAST RESORT SOLUTION) you can give this a go:

 

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/31675

 

All other clutter being stuck;

 

http://skyrim.nexusm...com/mods/31724

 

make a copy of your save, on which you try this out.... no guarantees tho... I have never tried it, just heard about it.

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I was looking through your last BOSS log, and it looks like you still need to clean some of the plugins flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edits.' There are also several error messages that you need to attend to, for example:

 

CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm Active Checksum: B3BD8B51
* Note: Obsolete. Update to the latest version.

 

and

 

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp Active Checksum: BDC66F4C
* Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul


ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active Checksum: B61E85AE
* Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul

The 'base' CoT module is compatible with RLO, not these 'optional' plugins that edits the same cell and imagespace data as RLO's 'interiors' plugins.

 

Go through the log closely and address every single error message. After you have no more error messages in the log when running BOSS, uninstall all the plugins not recognized by BOSS (you got too much on your plate right now, no need to add those aggravations to the mix), then rebuild your dynamically generated compatibility patches (ReProcer, Bashed Patch, etc.). See if that helps.

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For Claralux I learned that it's latest version will break your game. And I've cleaned all my mods, removed all incompatibilities. The results were good, I played for about 2 and a half hours last night CTD and freeze free. I think it was ASIS that was giving me problems, my previous logs had thousands of errors coming from ASIS alone.

The thing is I'm still getting errors on my logs but the number of errors has greatly reduced compared to my previous logs, my current errors are mostly coming from those mods I just can't uninstall (Hypothermia, Econo of Skyrim, SabreFurBag, SIM). What is baffling me is why I CTD upon loading any of my save games once I rebuild all my patches without those mods I want to uninstall. Maybe they're already tied to my save game.

Thanks for the replies man, appreciate it.

EDIT: Played for another 2 or 3 hours today without a single CTD or freeze, the stuttering has been reduced significantly too. Things are looking good!

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