Modded Skyrim CTD Help Please

[Cybermann]

Hi

 

I am having CTD with a S.T.E.P. modded Skyrim along with a few other installed mods.

 

I am running

Skyrim 1.9.32.0

SKSE ver 1.6.13

Wild ENB

 

 

It either CTD or it seems to not respond when loading cells. I enclose my load order

 

 

 

00 Skyrim.esm
01 Update.esm
02 Dawnguard.esm
03 Dragonborn.esm
04 ApachiiHair.esm
05 ApachiiHairFemales.esm
06 RaceCompatibility.esm
07 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
08 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
09 OblHairs02.esm
0A OblHairs01.esm
0B OblHairs03.esm
0C SPIKE.esm
0D HighResTexturePack01.esp
0E HighResTexturePack02.esp
0F HighResTexturePack03.esp
10 Brawl Bugs CE.esp
11 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 1.3.2a]
12 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
13 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 1.2.1]
14 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
15 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp [Version 1.1.1]
16 Chesko_Frostfall.esp
17 Better Dynamic Snow.esp
18 Rainbows.esp
19 BWS.esp
1A Clanking Armor.esp
1B ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp
1C IHSS.esp
1D Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
1E randomthunder.esp
1F Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp
20 Thundering Shouts.esp
21 mintylightningmod.esp
22 StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
23 StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp
24 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
25 ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp
26 Ars Metallica.esp [Version 1.2.0]
27 Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp [Version 1.2.0]
28 Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp [Version 1.2.0]
29 Birdsclean.esp
2A Birdsofskyrim.esp
2B BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp
2C Bring Out Your Dead.esp [Version 1.1.7]
2D Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
2E Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp
2F Chesko_WearableLantern_Candle_DG.esp
30 Chesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp
31 ClamsDropPearls.esp
32 dbmisc.esp
33 Dead Body Collision.esp
34 Death Cam Duration Options.esp
35 Disease Descriptions.esp
36 DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp
37 DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp
38 Dual Sheath Redux.esp
39 DungeonQuestAwareness.esp
3A fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp [Version 1.0]
3B Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp
3C manny Lantern Caretakers.esp
3D MVABasic.esp
3E MVAIvarstead.esp
3F MVARorikstead.esp
40 Moss Rocks.esp
41 ORM-Arvak.esp
42 PilgrimsDelight.esp
43 Point The Way.esp [Version 1.0.1a]
44 RabbitsPlus.esp
45 Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
46 ShootingStars.esp
47 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
48 SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-DB.esp [Version 1.1a]
49 SMDropLitTorch.esp
4A Traps Make Noise.esp
4B Convenient Horses.esp
4C Convenient Horses - Faster Sprint.esp
4D Destructible_bottles.esp
4E Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
4F Footprints.esp
50 Footprints - Ash.esp
51 RaceMenu.esp
52 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
53 WetandCold.esp
54 SkyUI.esp
55 iHUD.esp
56 + MATHERIAN_VIKING_SHIELDS_SET +.esp
57 Cloaks.esp
58 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
59 1nivWICCloaks.esp [Version 2.3]
5A 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp [Version 2.3]
5B daedric_phelm.esp
5C Elemental Staves.esp
5D ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
5E hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
5F imp_helm.esp
60 imp_helm_imp.esp
61 imp_helm_dawn.esp
62 LeatherBackpackBlack-100.esp
63 LeatherBackpack-100.esp
64 NorseMaille.esp
65 TCOSS.esp
66 Viking Weaponry.esp
67 IA6npc01.esp
68 Lock Overhaul.esp
69 Requiem.esp
6A Gildergreen Regrown.esp [Version 1.2.5]
6B Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 1.2.1]
6C When Vampires Attack.esp [Version 1.0.1]
6D SkyrimChimneysRW.esp
6E The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2.3]
6F SkyrimCoinReplacer.esp
70 Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
71 Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
72 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
73 BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp
74 BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
75 BetterQuestObjectives-RequiemPatch.esp
76 BlockSparkles.esp
77 Distant Detail.esp
78 DiversePriests.esp
79 DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp
7A dynamic fires.esp
++ FSS-Slight pause between lines.esp
7B Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
7C Immersive Weapons.esp
7D masser Size x0.5.esp
7E More Salt Please.esp
7F More Salt Please - Dragonborn addon.esp
80 dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp
81 NonEssentialChildren.esp
82 BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp
83 SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
84 secunda Size x0.5.esp
85 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
86 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
87 TheChoiceIsYours.esp
88 TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
89 Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
8A Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp
8B aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
8C AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp
8D Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
8E Unique Region Names.esp
8F ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
90 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
91 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp
92 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
93 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp
94 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
95 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
96 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
97 RND_DestructibleBottles-Patch.esp
98 RND_Requiem-Patch.esp
99 RND_USKP-Patch.esp
9A RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
9B BFSEffects.esp
9C DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
9D Realistic crime report radius.esp
9E Enhanced Soul Trap.esp
9F Soul Gems Differ - E.esp
A0 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
A1 ApachiiHairStyles.esp
A2 ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp
A3 Beards.esp
A4 Brows.esp
A5 Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
A6 SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp [Version 1.4]
A7 Follower Trap Safety.esp
A8 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
A9 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
AA moveitLWT.esp
AB Basvanbeu MuscleTextureChanger with Navetsea set.esp
AC Animated Weapon Enchants.esp
AD DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp
AE WATER.esp
AF WATER Plants.esp
B0 WATER DB Waves.esp
B1 RND_Water-Patch.esp
B2 DiversePriests_ConsistentOlderPeoplePatch.esp
B3 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
B4 LoversLoad_Screens_NonLore.esp
B5 LoversLoad_Screens_Lore.esp
B6 OpulentOutfitsV2Universal.esp
B7 MVSSII.esp
B8 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
B9 The Ningheim.esp
BA gina.esp

 

 

 

along with my latest papyrus log

 

any help greatly appreciated. I have run BOSS and TES5edit and happy that the load order is OK

[ripple]

1) Replace your load order with a BOSS log (with the messages). Include the list of plugins not recognized by BOSS if one is generated. Enclose them in spoiler tags like you did with the load order.

 

2) What is your system specs?

 

3) List any mods you installed which does not come with plugins (e.g. texture replacers, body mods, animation mods).

 

4) Provide more detail on the CTDs. Are they completely random or reproducible? Mostly 'outdoors' or in interior cells? In combat, with followers, with a particular spell effect? Anything that might suggest a pattern that will help narrow down the culprit(s).

[Cybermann]

BOSS log

 

 

These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.
Skyrim.esm Active
Update.esm Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Dawnguard.esm Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Dragonborn.esm Active
ApachiiHair.esm Active
ApachiiHairFemales.esm Active
RaceCompatibility.esm Active
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Active
SPIKE.esm Active
HighResTexturePack01.esp Active
HighResTexturePack02.esp Active
HighResTexturePack03.esp Active
Brawl Bugs CE.esp Active
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp Active
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Active
Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active
Better Dynamic Snow.esp Active
Rainbows.esp Active
BWS.esp Active
Clanking Armor.esp Active
ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp Active
IHSS.esp Active
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp Active
randomthunder.esp Active
Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp Active
Thundering Shouts.esp Active
mintylightningmod.esp Active
MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp Active
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active
StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp Active
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp Active
Ars Metallica.esp Active
Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp Active
Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp Active
Birdsclean.esp Active
Birdsofskyrim.esp Active
BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp Active
Bring Out Your Dead.esp Active
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active
Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp Active
Chesko_WearableLantern_Candle_DG.esp Active
Chesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp Active
ClamsDropPearls.esp Active
dbmisc.esp Active
Dead Body Collision.esp Active
Death Cam Duration Options.esp Active
Disease Descriptions.esp Active
DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp Active
DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp Active
Dual Sheath Redux.esp Active
Requires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+
DungeonQuestAwareness.esp Active
fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp Active
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-4.esp
Note: Use only one Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One esp.
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-3.esp
Note: Use only one Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One esp.
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-2.esp
Note: Use only one Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One esp.
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-1.esp
Note: Use only one Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One esp.
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp Active
Note: Use only one Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One esp.
manny Lantern Caretakers.esp Active
MVABasic.esp Active
MVAIvarstead.esp Active
MVARorikstead.esp Active
Moss Rocks.esp Active
ORM-Arvak.esp Active
PilgrimsDelight.esp Active
Point The Way.esp Active
RabbitsPlus.esp Active
Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp Active
ShootingStars.esp Active
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active
SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-DB.esp Active
Note: Use only one SkyrimImprovedPuddles esp.
SMDropLitTorch.esp Active
Traps Make Noise.esp Active
Convenient Horses.esp Active
Convenient Horses - Faster Sprint.esp Active
Destructible_bottles.esp Active
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Active
Footprints.esp Active
Footprints - Ash.esp Active
RaceMenu.esp Active
RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active
Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.
WetandCold.esp Active
SkyUI.esp Active
iHUD.esp Active
+ MATHERIAN_VIKING_SHIELDS_SET +.esp Active
Cloaks.esp Active
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp Active
1nivWICCloaks.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Active
daedric_phelm.esp Active
Elemental Staves.esp Active
ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp Active
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
imp_helm.esp Active
imp_helm_imp.esp Active
imp_helm_dawn.esp Active
LeatherBackpackBlack-100.esp Active
Note: Use only one LeatherBackPack Black esp
LeatherBackpack-100.esp Active
Note: Use only one LeatherBackPack Original esp
NorseMaille.esp Active
TCOSS.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Viking Weaponry.esp Active
IA6npc01.esp Active
Lock Overhaul.esp Active
Requiem.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Note: Requiem makes a LOT of changes. You may want to consider creating and using a Userlist based on your particular mod loadout.
Gildergreen Regrown.esp Active
Run For Your Lives.esp Active
When Vampires Attack.esp Active
SkyrimChimneysRW.esp Active
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Active
SkyrimCoinReplacer.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp Active
Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp Active
BetterQuestObjectives.esp Active
BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp Active
BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp Active
BetterQuestObjectives-RequiemPatch.esp Active
BlockSparkles.esp Active
Distant Detail.esp Active
DiversePriests.esp Active
DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp Active
dynamic fires.esp Active
FSS-Slight pause between lines.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active
Immersive Weapons.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
masser Size x0.5.esp Active
More Salt Please.esp Active
More Salt Please - Dragonborn addon.esp Active
dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp Active
NonEssentialChildren.esp Active
BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp Active
SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp Active
Note: Uninstall old version of Skyrim Flora Overhaul if using SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
secunda Size x0.5.esp Active
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active
TheChoiceIsYours.esp Active
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp Active
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp Active
Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp Active
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp Active
AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp Active
Chesko_Step418_SN.esp Active
Unique Region Names.esp Active
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp Active
Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active
Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp Active
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Active
Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Active
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active
RND_DestructibleBottles-Patch.esp Active
RND_Requiem-Patch.esp Active
RND_USKP-Patch.esp Active
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active
BFSEffects.esp Active
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Active
Realistic crime report radius.esp Active
Enhanced Soul Trap.esp Active
Soul Gems Differ - E.esp Active
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp Active
ApachiiHairStyles.esp Active
ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp Active
Beards.esp Active
Brows.esp Active
Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp Active
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp Active
Note: If this is not newer than v1.3, update to the latest version.
Follower Trap Safety.esp Active
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp Active
EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp Active
moveitLWT.esp Active
Basvanbeu MuscleTextureChanger with Navetsea set.esp Active
Animated Weapon Enchants.esp Active
DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp Active
WATER.esp Active
WATER Plants.esp Active
WATER DB Waves.esp Active
RND_Water-Patch.esp Active
DiversePriests_ConsistentOlderPeoplePatch.esp Active
Bashed Patch, 0.esp Active
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp Active

 

 

Unrecognised BOSS log

 

 

The following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed.
LoversLoad_Screens_NonLore.esp Active
LoversLoad_Screens_Lore.esp Active
OpulentOutfitsV2Universal.esp Active
MVSSII.esp Active
The Ningheim.esp Active
gina.esp Active

 

 

System

Intel i7 2600K factory O/C to 4.7 GHz (Stable)

8 Gb 1600 Corsair RAM

2 XFire Ati 6950 (2GB each)

 

Texture Mods

 

I have installed using the STEP project http://wiki.step-project.com/STEP:2.2.5

and have added the following

CBBE thepal UNP tectures http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/6554/?

The Brows textures for Ningheim race

 

 

 

The crash happens randomly. The earlier papyrus log was generated with a new character and CTD when in the cart heading for execution at Helgen. I played it again later and managed to setup my Ningheim character got all the way to escaping into the keep with the imperial officer and it got stuck on the loading screen into the keep. Skyrim was not responding ( I left it about an hour) and I had to kill the game with Task Manager. I attach the papyrus log for this. I have also cleaned the mods with TES edit 5

 

[ripple]

Can you uninstall the Ningheim race mod for now and see if you can get through the Helgan tutorial without CTDs?

 

Also, can you post your papyrus log to pastebin or something? I generally don't download stuff from user posts.

 

You can go ahead and delete/remove the optional 'lanterns...' plugins that you are not using. Disable plugins don't get loaded by they do get scanned, and there is no reason to extend the game loading time even by a millisecond. It will also help keep your load order clean and tidy, ease load order maintenance, that sort of thing.

[Cybermann]

Hi Ripple

 

I have uninstalled the Ningheim and removed un checked lanterns.

 

I seem to be able to enter and exit cells now but had a CTD on my way to Riverwood.

 

I enclose links to the crashes in my first 2 posts

 

The crash in the cart on my way to execution

 

http://pastebin.com/38MU8s9b

 

 

 

followed by the crash at the Keep in helgen during Dragon attack

 

http://pastebin.com/gVJ5Zanf

 

 

 

 

 

[Cybermann]

Forgot to add the CTD from Helgen escape on the way th Riverwood

http://pastebin.com/HC0C7dXD

[ripple]

Some users recommend keeping mods disabled until after the Helgan tutorial, then enabling them after, because that sequence is heavily scripted and stresses the game engine. This is sound advice and you can try that and see if it helps. Personally, I keep all my mods enabled during the Helgan tutorial (although scripted mods that are disabled by default until activation via MCM menu or quest object, I do not enable until I leave the dungeon). The reason I do this is that the Helgan tutorial is not the only heavily scripted sequence in the game, and CTDs there indicates possible CTDs down the road when the game engine is similarly stressed. So I use it as a 'testing ground.'

 

It's up to you on this one, because the next suggestion I have would require you to uninstall mods to gradually 'ease' the stress placed on the game engine and your rig, to see if that might be the cause of the problem, starting with some of the texture mods you installed by following STEPS, as well as ENB. After your remove those mods, try going through the Helgan sequence with just your other mods and the official Hi-Res DLC, and see if you can get through it without CTDs. If you can, then we have the answer as to what the causes of the CTDs are (and perhaps you can then start adding back texture mods slowly, one at a time, then play around a bit to test how much your rig and the game engine can take).

 

Have you made any edits or 'tweaks' to the game ini files?

Edited May 19, 2013 by ripple

[Cybermann]

Thanks for all the advice ripple. I finally ditched STEPs and only added the fixes and unofficial patches. Installed RND, Skyre, Reqiuem and Frostfall along with some mods from GEM.



I had initial crashes but on using a lvlpredator script posted in the nexus site I was able to get to level 7 with very few crashes.



However, I am now plagued with failing to get past the loading screen. However, if I load and earlier save and immediately reload the problem save, it loads correctly.



I think I will remove the birds and flocks as it has featured in a couple of crash logs and see if that helps.



I note in wrye bash that the problem saves show up in lilac and if I understand it that suggests their broken or corrupted. I added the ClearInvalidRegistrations 1 to the skse ini but it doesn't appear to do anything.

[jojje5]

Skyre +Reqiuem ?

i did not think that was possible at all.

have you done something to patch them together?

[Cybermann]

They seem to work well together, I used the reproccer patch and the balbor repoccer patch and they run fine as long as the last loaded files are the reproccers created. If you look at gopher install he walks you through skyre

 

 

 

 

The damage done by weapons is deadly and therefore the role play aspect is essential, if you dont see that enemy archer then your dead.

Edited May 29, 2013 by Cybermann