HeyYou Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Government regulation DOES have it's good points..... (and I will now go and wash my mouth out with soap.......) It has prevented a fair few hazardous products from making it to market, (or, removed them from the market.... lead-based paint, for instance.) Having the drug market regulated would pretty much assure a 'standard' for the quality/potency of said product. This in itself would reduce overdoses of various drugs. (as on the black market, you never know how many times a product has been cut.) As for the black market, and tax thing, your example really doesn't dissuade me in the least, as you are talking about a product that is currently legal.... yet shows up on the black market due to local conditions. That's nothing new either. I would point out, however, that the alcohol, and tobacco industries still pay billions in taxes every year..... (from corporate profits, to various sales taxes.) Something the government is NOT getting off of recreational drugs. Quite the opposite, they are SPENDING billions on prohibition, when they know for a fact that it simply does not work. But then, our government is notorious for doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beriallord Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Even with government taxes involved, prices will STILL be cheaper than black market. Not to mention significantly safer. Will there still be a market? Yep, but, somewhere along the lines, someone still has to pay for that product, and 95% of the time, they will pay taxes on it as well. (sure, there will still be theft, and folks selling under the table, but, that is in no way even remotely going to be on the scale of what we have today.) Some of the prices on pot I've heard in some of the areas where its legal are pretty astronomical. We're talking like upwards of $400 for a 1/2 ounce of pot. Even if its top quality cloned marijuana, that is still outrageous. Top quality cloned marijana runs about $120 for a quarter ounce, or $240 for 1/2 ounce around here. Legalizing it in theory should lower the price, because the supply and accessibility increases, but in reality that doesn't seem to be the case. Grower, retailer, and government get their cut. Those added costs effectively double the price regardless of supply and demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 A lot of that is markup for insurance purposes..... With "medical" marijuana, it seems that gouging the insurance companies is standard. (just like most other health care costs....) Most of the folks I know that actually use MM, get it for free..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgeburner Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Legalizing it in theory should lower the price, because the supply and accessibility increases, but in reality that doesn't seem to be the case. Grower, retailer, and government get their cut. Those added costs effectively double the price regardless of supply and demand.It's never the case. The ONLY reason that black markets exist is because of government regulations and taxes. Government involvement means higher prices....it's as simple as that. Why would black-marketeers take the risk if there wasn't a good profit in the offing? A lot of that is markup for insurance purposes Insurance companies and government again!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Sorry, don't follow your logic there. If the black market can supply a product cheaper than the legal version, why do we not see huge quantities of black market alcohol on the streets? Why do we not hear about "thousands of gallons" of illegal booze being seized? One would think that simple market dynamics would have the black market replacing the legit market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgeburner Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 http://forums.nexusmods.com/uploads//profile/photo-414336.jpg?_r=0Membershttp://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_images/underground/bullet_black.pnghttp://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_images/underground/bullet_black.pnghttp://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_images/underground/bullet_black.pnghttp://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_images/underground/bullet_black.pnghttp://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_images/underground/bullet_black.png3,823 postsSorry, don't follow your logic there. If the black market can supply a product cheaper than the legal version, why do we not see huge quantities of black market alcohol on the streets? Why do we not hear about "thousands of gallons" of illegal booze being seized? One would think that simple market dynamics would have the black market replacing the legit market.Really?? Maybe cause they ain't gettin busted? Maybe they supply a product that the government regulated product can't match? Again, answer my question,,,,why does the black market exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgeburner Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 why do we not see huge quantities of black market alcohol on the streets?Uhhh.......I guess it depends on where you live, and, who you know. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 http://forums.nexusmods.com/uploads//profile/photo-414336.jpg?_r=0Membershttp://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_images/underground/bullet_black.pnghttp://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_images/underground/bullet_black.pnghttp://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_images/underground/bullet_black.pnghttp://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_images/underground/bullet_black.pnghttp://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_images/underground/bullet_black.png3,823 postsSorry, don't follow your logic there. If the black market can supply a product cheaper than the legal version, why do we not see huge quantities of black market alcohol on the streets? Why do we not hear about "thousands of gallons" of illegal booze being seized? One would think that simple market dynamics would have the black market replacing the legit market.Really?? Maybe cause they ain't gettin busted? Maybe they supply a product that the government regulated product can't match? Again, answer my question,,,,why does the black market exist? To supply a product that is either over-regulated, or simply illegal, in the location where it is sold. Basically, folks making money supplying what folks want, not necessarily at a lower cost. Gotta get paid for the risk factor involved with doing something inherently illegal. I don't remember EVER seeing an article about a 'massive alcohol bust'....... Why do you think that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurielius Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I don't remember EVER seeing an article about a 'massive alcohol bust'....... Why do you think that is? http://cdn.history.com/sites/2/2014/01/police-emptying-kegs-P.jpeg You are just not old enough..... :teehee: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I don't remember EVER seeing an article about a 'massive alcohol bust'....... Why do you think that is? http://cdn.history.com/sites/2/2014/01/police-emptying-kegs-P.jpeg You are just not old enough..... :teehee: I don't have a problem with that. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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