I am lost as to what gameplay/skill overhaul to pick :/

[Derethim]

So I have recently bought Skyrim SE and I haven't modded the game since LE in like 2015. I was too busy playing Dark Souls and modding Oblivion instead, which is why I have so far avoided the use of MO2 - take that into account and tell me if I do absolutely need to use it for things to work or not.

 

I would just like to ask, which of the big gameplay overhauls is worth installing? I have been messing-around with installing PerMa, but couldn't find a readme anywhere on how the hell to install it. At least I got Synthesis to work, but for now it is pointless.

 

I had originally wanted to use SkyRE, but I have heard Perma is better; I am however offput by missing perk desriptions and overcomplexity.

Ordinator, on the other hand, seems a little too simple and you have to download many other mods for it to be a complete overhaul, however; it avoids stupid patchers I am not used to. I have installed FCOM many times over with 300+ mods, if that helps.

 

I am looking for what Misery is to Stalker: Call of Pripyat, you know? A mod, that makes the game harder, more complex, but not unnecessairly and aritificially hard by making fights ridiculous, perks unreadable and not obvious what they do. Because that is annoying.

I just want the gameplay more varied and fun, while keeping the vanilla feel partially, making it more complex.

 

I am deciding between;

SkyRE

PerMa

Ordinator + various other mods by Enai to fill it up

Requiem maybe?

 

Also, this is my loadorder. I have not properly tried the game out yet by playing it, but there are no crashes and MCM has all of them loaded in and I have followed most of the instructions for every mod, except cleaning with xEdit, and LOD generation, which I plan to do once I am sure I won't be installing more bigger mods.

 

00 Skyrim.esm

01 Update.esm

02 Dawnguard.esm

03 Hearthfires.esm

04 Dragonborn.esm

05 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp [Version 4.2.5b]

06 RSkyrimChildren.esm

07 RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm

08 Campfire.esm

09 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

0A SkyUI_SE.esp

0B SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

0C Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp

0D RaceMenu.esp

0E RaceMenuPlugin.esp

0F FNIS.esp

10 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

11 CBBE.esp

12 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

13 Footprints.esp

14 ViscousGrass.esp

15 JKs Skyrim.esp

16 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

17 Immersive Weapons.esp

18 Unique Uniques.esp [Version 1.8]

19 AI Overhaul.esp

1A Cutting Room Floor.esp [Version 3.1.9]

1B Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp [Version v7.0.2]

1C OBIS SE.esp

1D Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

1E Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

1F Point The Way.esp [Version 2.0.6]

20 Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 4.0.3]

21 Frostfall.esp

22 WetandCold.esp

23 Immersive Patrols II.esp

24 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp

25 FNISspells.esp

26 RSChildren.esp [Version 1.2.0.]

27 Ars Metallica.esp [Version 2.0.6]

28 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp

29 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

2A SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

2B SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

2C RaceMenuMorphsHIMBO.esp

2D HIMBO.esp

2E dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

2F EBT - IC PATCH.esp

30 dD-Medium Script Range.esp

31 CharacterMakingExtender.esp

32 3BBB.esp

33 DSer360MovementBehavior.esp

34 XPMSE.esp

35 SOSRaceMenu.esp

36 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

37 BlendedRoads.esp

38 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

39 DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp

3A DeadlySpellImpacts Transparency Fix.esp

3B ISC Enhanced Blood Patch.esp

3C ISC Immersive Armors Patch.esp

3D ELE_SSE.esp

3E ELE_SSE_CRF.esp

3F RealisticWaterTwo.esp

40 IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp

41 AQWMP_AMM_Patch.esp [Version 1.0.0]

Any tips on which to use? I can learn how to use the Synthesis patchers, but I need a proper readme.

[gnarly1]

Requiem is probably the closest analogue to Misery, however Requiem was developed for LE so getting it to work with SE requires some additional work. There's a few guides on how to do this - I think one is on LoversLab.

 

Requiem is an impressively comprehensive overhaul which will reduce the requirement to find other mods to improve the various aspects of the game but may conflict with those mods you do want to use.

 

And there won't be as many compatibility patches around for Requiem SE as there is for LE.

 

Ultimate Skyrim (website and Discord) might be useful if you need more information re Requiem.

 

Another alternative is Vokriinator Black which is a 'mutation' of Ordinator.

Edited October 5, 2021 by gnarly1

[Derethim]

Sad, that Requiem has no official SE port. I may have to skip that, since it is so incompatible; I would honestly prefer to go through PerMa's patching process, rather than trying to figure-out which mods work and don't work with Requiem, because that can take a full week, if I put 2 hours a day into modding.

 

I can install FCOM in an hour with 200 other mods, but Oblivion isn't a game split into two with the community being less than a half of Skyrim's.

I am basically looking for a more-balanced and compatible FCOM.