Giants aren't animated

[LilJur]

Edit: Did some flying around. It's not only giants!
I found wolves and horses with the same issue.
Shortly after I found some elks that were animated but couldn't move (they'd just run on the spot). Same with mudcrabs and mammoths.
Basicly, everything non-human I encountered.
They were fine before my latest save. After saving, I installed about 30 new mods so I can narrow it down to those. Going to do some testing

So I just started a new game after some modding. And... My giants aren't animated.

They don't even float, as you hear with some people.
They just stand there like this, stuck in the ground, unable to move anywhere or anything. I can kill them, they make sound when I hit them but that's all.
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae78/LilJur/ScreenShot3_zpsglxelftn.png

I haven't found any other mods that are frozen. But like I said, I just started a new game (level 2 curently).

Is it a mod that does this?
This is my loadorder.

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

Unofficial Skyrim Modders Patch.esp

hdtHighHeel.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

ApachiiHairMales.esm

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm

CompanionArissa.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

PotemaCrashFix.esp

Vivid Landscapes.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

ELFX - Exteriors.esp

SkySight-Simply-Bigger-Trees-Slower-Branches.esp

Vivid Weathers - Lanterns of Skyrim Preset.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

SkyUI.esp

FNIS.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

XPMSE.esp

TrueEyes.esp

KS Hairdo's.esp

TrueBrows.esp

Brows.esp

Beards.esp

NB-Scars.esp

UltimateDragons.esp

Tiwa44_SpiceGear.esp

Skysan_Icicle.esp

DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp

FemaleMannequinsNord.esp

Bijin Wives.esp

NoWeaponDraw.esp

Minerva.esp

WetandCold.esp

Footprints.esp

zMirai_DB.esp

CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

immersive roads.esp

SkyRe_Main.esp

EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp

Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp

grass & ground fixes.esp

ELFXEnhancer.esp

ElysiumEstate.esp

ElysiumEstate-HF.esp

Civil War Overhaul.esp

Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp

Vivid Weathers.esp

Vivid Weathers - Minty Lightning patch.esp

FNISspells.esp

Bijin Warmaidens.esp

Bijin NPCs.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

BloodyFacials.esp

CL BladeofSacrifice.esp

CL Nettlebane.esp

Third Era - Dwemer.esp

Point The Way.esp

zMirai.esp

SMIM-Merged-All.esp

VariousGuardReplacer.esp

Immersive Patrols II.esp

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp

Marriable Serana.esp

CWIELnFXPatch.esp

Tanya.esp

Kate.esp

Height Adjusted Races with True Giants - Smaller Giant Edition.esp

DeadlyMutilation.esp

Dallas Follower.esp

Chaconne.esp

Mystique.esp

Hermit.esp

Xevaria Follower.esp

Venice.esp

Lamae.esp

Sara.esp

Ambriel.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Unique Uniques.esp

SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp

Path of Shadows.esp

Marriable Serana HF.esp

ScarletDawnArmor.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

NonEssentialChildren.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-SkyRePatch.esp

Frost Giants in the Cold.esp

Giantess.esp

FemaleBriarHearts.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

BlockSparkles.esp

My Home Is Your Home.esp

ErynielElfV2.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

ReProccer.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

Now before anyone asks; yes, I tried running it without the following mods:
- Frost Giants in the cold
- Giantess
- Height Adjusted Races with True Giants - Smaller Giant Edition

As they seem to be the most obvious mods that edit giants. But still the same

Edited September 11, 2016 by LilJur

[Project579]

Do you have FNIS and did you generate the behavior files? Do you have XPMSE and realistic ragdolls and force(needed for XPMSE to work)?

[LilJur]

Do you have FNIS and did you generate the behavior files? Do you have XPMSE and realistic ragdolls and force(needed for XPMSE to work)?

You did read my whole post right?

Because all those mods are in my load order and I didn't have any issues until I installed new mods.

 

On an update; just disabled all mods that I installed after said save. Now even my humans won't move

[Project579]

FNIS .esp needs to go near end of load order you ran the Generatefnisforusers and selected skeleton arm fix? Load order is pretty bad anyway.... When you installed XPMSE and realistic ragdolls and force you first installed realistic ragdolls and force then XPMSE; in XPMSE installer you selected the giants skeleton?

 

On an update; just disabled all mods that I installed after said save. Now even my humans won't move <--- this is normal if you remove FNIS

Edited September 11, 2016 by Project579

[LilJur]

FNIS .esp needs to go near end of load order you ran the Generatefnisforusers and selected skeleton arm fix? Load order is pretty bad anyway.... When you installed XPMSE and realistic ragdolls and force you first installed realistic ragdolls and force then XPMSE; in XPMSE installer you selected the giants skeleton?

 

On an update; just disabled all mods that I installed after said save. Now even my humans won't move <--- this is normal if you remove FNIS

I didn't remove FNIS, FNIS has been there from the beginning.

Order of install; First FNIS, than Ragdolls, than XPMSE.

I'm not sure about the giants skeleton.

My load order is done automaticly by the built in LOOT tool of MO.

I just updated FNIS behavoir and disabled the mods from after the save game. Humans are animated again but they have the same issue as the rest; they walk on the spot

[LilJur]

Alright, I fixed it it seems.
Bit of a weird solution...

After updating FNIS behavoir and loading all mods again, I loaded an earlier save.
Most things worked fine. But still, the ones that were stuck (wolves, horses, giants) were still the same.
And I found the most unusual fix.
I installed SexLab and updated the FNIS behavoir again. It added 18 creature animations it said. And guess what? It's working fine again.

But now I have a CTD every 10 minutes...

[metaforce]

This is (probably) caused by leftover animation files originally belonging to FNIS's Creature package (or an older version of it). NMM doesnt even give you a hint about that. FNIS neither gives you a hint about that. Consider switching to Mod Organiser....At least you would get an error message about that. Those leftover files need to be cleaned from the respective animation folders. Is the FNIS Creature package installed and activated at the moment? Which mods do you run that need it? Has the creature package ever been manually installed in the past?

 

Go to Data---Meshes---actors---giant and please post what the contents of that folder and all subfolders is.

Edited September 12, 2016 by metaforce

[PeterMartyr]

Try -> "De-install Creatures" to Uninstalled Creature Pack or remove left over files

then Update FNIS Behavior just to safe

 

Edited September 12, 2016 by PeterMartyr

[PeterMartyr]

@ Lilur you need to post the correct information when asking for help.

You install Fnis Creatures else you would NOT have this problem.

Since only FNIS Creature Package can Hack the Skyrim Gaint.hkx Animation Registery

You may have played with mods from other sites.

But if your not honest in the help forums, how can you expect the correct help?

[LilJur]

This is (probably) caused by leftover animation files originally belonging to FNIS's Creature package (or an older version of it). NMM doesnt even give you a hint about that. FNIS neither gives you a hint about that. Consider switching to Mod Organiser....At least you would get an error message about that. Those leftover files need to be cleaned from the respective animation folders. Is the FNIS Creature package installed and activated at the moment? Which mods do you run that need it? Has the creature package ever been manually installed in the past?

 

Go to Data---Meshes---actors---giant and please post what the contents of that folder and all subfolders is.

If you'd have read my previous replies, you'd have known that I use Mod Organiser and not NMM as I said my load order was created with the LOOT tool in MO.

Also, I have never installed a mod manually.

 

I have "Have MO manage archives" checked, so my Data folder in Skyrim itself is clean.

When I go to "Mod Organizer---mods---Fores New Idles in Skyrim - creatures---Meshes---actors---giant" I have a folder "behavoirs" and "characters"

Inside those folders there is only "giantbehavoir_TEMPLATE.txt" and "giantcharacter_default_TEMPLATE.txt".

They are exactly the same as in the archive I downloaded.

 

I don't know which mods I run that need it.

After a search on "giant" I had the following mods coming up that had a "meshes---actors---giants" path:

- Female Giant

- XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended

- Realistic Ragdolls and Force

- SexLabFramework v162 (as I stated in my previous post, I installed this yesterday evening and it actually fixed everything)

 

@ Lilur you need to post the correct information when asking for help.

You install Fnis Creatures else you would NOT have this problem.

Since only FNIS Creature Package can Hack the Skyrim Gaint.hkx Animation Registery

You may have played with mods from other sites.

But if your not honest in the help forums, how can you expect the correct help?

I have FNIS creatures installed yes.

I download everything from the nexus.

Yesterday I downloaded SexLab framework from another site but as I said; it actually fixed the problem.

But I'm going to disable it and do what you said, hoping it will fix the problem