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In response to post #24863434. Sadly we lost a lot of good mods in the process. :/ Let's just hope that the next time Bethesda tries to implement paid modding (I'm sure they will) they choose a more intelligent approach

In response to post #24859404. #24859729, #24859924, #24860149, #24860289, #24860359 are all replies on the same post. Dunno, I liked the Oblivion modding scene better, probably because the ratio of good mods to bad mods was higher.

In response to post #24859404. #24859729 is also a reply to the same post. Given how casualized Skyrim is compared to the older titles, I fear for the future of TES. Let's just hope it won't be streamlined further

In response to post #24848419. #24848589, #24848784, #24848849, #24848874, #24848924, #24849489 are all replies on the same post. @Nightasy You are absolutely entittled in your very own way, good job.

In response to post #24832564. #24833079, #24833104, #24833179, #24833249, #24833549, #24833659, #24833844, #24834234, #24834574, #24834934, #24835054, #24835429, #24836069, #24836109, #24836554, #24837014, #24837104, #24838089 are all replies on the same post. Whatever you need to tell yourself to justify name calling, champ

In response to post #24837054. #24837184 is also a reply to the same post. No, not really. But it's really questionable that after 13 years of a stable and big TES modding community suddenly lots of people start to demand money once the topic is brought up. It's not "us" who have shown our true colours, it's those that ran to the workshop who did, and those who continue crying like babies now that the majority got what we wanted.

In response to post #24832564. #24833079, #24833104, #24833179, #24833249, #24833549, #24833659, #24833844, #24834234, #24834574, #24834934, #24835054, #24835429, #24836069, #24836109, #24836554, #24837014 are all replies on the same post. @retnav98 Yeah no, he admitted as much as not having an idea about the details. And the one who starts calling names is the dick here, my friend

In response to post #24832564. #24833079, #24833104, #24833179, #24833249, #24833549, #24833659, #24833844, #24834234, #24834574, #24834934, #24835054, #24835429, #24836069 are all replies on the same post. @foster xbl Wait, you think it's okay that a big project can't get any profit due to this deal while any retard who knows how to port swords from DOTA2 can grab their 25%? You must have no idea what you are talking about.

In response to post #24832564. #24833079, #24833104, #24833179, #24833249, #24833549, #24833659, #24833844, #24834234, #24834574 are all replies on the same post. That's not fair at all. Imagine a big project being sold for 30$ (not unrealistic, look how big Enderal will be), then the creators get 7,50$ per unit. And they would still have to split the profits within their team. No....just no.

In response to post #24834139. As far as I know Valve had plans to take mods (free mods) from modders and sell them as official content for their games. And you can't do anything about it other than deleting your data. Creepy stuff.

In response to post #24834014. #24834314 is also a reply to the same post. @Vesuvius1745 Good that you mention it, because I actually study law at university. I mean, only German law and it doesn't 100% apply to this, but I know what I'm talking about, and you seem to be too :)

In response to post #24832564. #24833079, #24833104, #24833179, #24833249, #24833549, #24833659 are all replies on the same post. A refund would settle this, but someone may not accept a refund because he is so pissed that he wants to sue you. This is some serious grasping for straws from my side btw, something like this is very unlikely to happen. What's more likely is a modder uploading something that doesn't resemble his description at all. User reviews were disabled on the workshop until you bought the mod, so you couldn't really know whether you bought the real deal or a scam. User protection was pretty shitty, paired with the 25% means that both sides were screwed over by Valve/Bethesda. No problem with Patreon as an alternative method of financing modder's efforts, but this deal HAD to be cancelled, since absolutely every side of the community was being exploited.

In response to post #24832564. #24833079, #24833104, #24833179 are all replies on the same post. Not over a CTD, over false advertising. You as an author would be legally obliged to find out all incompatibilities, if you fail to do so and thereby fail to deliever the product I ordered I have every right to sue you. Of course I wouldn't sue over stuff like this, I'd demand a refund immediately. Someone with more money could sue you. And then you're having a serious problem

In response to post #24832779. #24832909 is also a reply to the same post. SKYRIM has DRM, the DLC do NOT. Once you bought a DLC, you can copy it, give it to a friend and he can play it too. You can't do the same with Skyrim. Bethesda didn't lie there for a change.

In response to post #24829274. #24829504, #24829949, #24830164, #24830354, #24830424, #24830604, #24830714, #24830804, #24830944, #24831024, #24831029, #24831074, #24831139, #24831284, #24831344, #24831554, #24831694, #24831724, #24831809, #24832199 are all replies on the same post. Yeah, whatever bro. No use arguing with lunatics on the internet Gimme some of that weed you're smoking, I wanna go to LaLa land too. Holy s#*!, at least try to speak in coherent sentences. Or use google translator

In response to post #24827544. #24828559, #24828899, #24829149, #24829774, #24830084, #24830089, #24830244, #24830269, #24830279, #24830434, #24830474, #24830494, #24830544, #24830624, #24830709, #24830784, #24830789, #24830854, #24830894, #24830919, #24831079, #24831109, #24831114, #24831884, #24831959 are all replies on the same post. It won't be the lawyers of Bethesda who have to deal with that. It would be the lawyer of the modder, because now the modder is legally responsible. Modder tricks users into buying a mod that doesn't do what it promises? You better bet he's getting sued for that. "Good luck finding a lawyer willing to invest in taking that case." Do you even know how lawyers work? If you pay the lawyer enoguh, he's gonna do wahtever you want, no matter how ridiculous the case is.

In response to post #24829274. #24829504, #24829949, #24830164, #24830354, #24830424, #24830604, #24830714, #24830804, #24830944, #24831024, #24831029, #24831074, #24831139, #24831284, #24831344, #24831554, #24831694, #24831724 are all replies on the same post. Am I really being lectured about not having rights because I never created a mod? I made a few rather bad ones for private use. Never released one. I know that modding is hard. So what? Also, resorting to calling me and the other people trolls just shows that you are running out of arguments. Please stop, it's painful to watch

In response to post #24829274. #24829504, #24829949, #24830164, #24830354, #24830424, #24830604, #24830714, #24830804, #24830944, #24831024, #24831029, #24831074, #24831139, #24831284, #24831344, #24831554 are all replies on the same post. @macintroll Of course not. Chose this name as a parody of reddit's idiocy and went with it because I couldn't think of something better.

In response to post #24827544. #24828559, #24828899, #24829149, #24829774, #24830084, #24830089, #24830244, #24830269, #24830279, #24830434, #24830474, #24830494, #24830544, #24830624, #24830709, #24830784, #24830789, #24830854, #24830894, #24830919, #24831079 are all replies on the same post. You didn't even bother to read my post properly. If you are cherrypicking arguments, at least do it less obvious

In response to post #24829274. #24829504, #24829949, #24830164, #24830354, #24830424, #24830604, #24830714, #24830804, #24830944, #24831024 are all replies on the same post. Whatever you say my friend. I want to be a frost troll though, I#ve never liked regular trolls

In response to post #24829274. #24829504, #24829949, #24830164, #24830354, #24830424, #24830604, #24830714 are all replies on the same post. Good to know that everyone who doesn't agree with you is a troll. Delusional, but who am I to judge, eh mate?

In response to post #24827544. #24828559, #24828899, #24829149, #24829774, #24830084, #24830089, #24830244, #24830269, #24830279, #24830434, #24830474, #24830494, #24830544, #24830624, #24830709 are all replies on the same post. Yep, the entitled user is to blame when the mod authors couldn't be bothered to write the incompatibilities on the mod page. Typical

In response to post #24827544. #24828559, #24828899, #24829149, #24829774, #24830084, #24830089, #24830244, #24830269, #24830279 are all replies on the same post. You want the chance to be a freelancer game dev? Maybe you should start making good mods then :^)

In response to post #24827544. #24828559, #24828899, #24829149, #24829774 are all replies on the same post. It's against the greater good of the modding quality, that's why. Look at the games with paid user content, do you think that's how you want the quality of TES modding to end? You know what those authors would have done with the chance, you were able to see it on the workshop. Not even two days passed until we had in-game ads, early access mods, premium versions. It's all downhill from there, I almost thought I was looking at EA, not established members of the community. SureAI published a nice article about the restrictions of the deal. Big mods wouldn't profit at all. Quantity=/=Quality.

In response to post #24829274. #24829504 is also a reply to the same post. Well, actually the quality of modding is my biggest concern. It has been great so far, now you want to sell out on a platform with abusive business practise, fine. If you wanna go and be a cash grabber, make some shitty swords for DOTA2 and sell them for a buck each. The paid mods have all been terrible in quality so far (little hint: because I bought some of them, what a leech I am, right?) Funny that you crybabies start coming out of the woodwork once you don't get your way. Oh, and I don't post here often because there are other TES communities that I frequent. The nexus is not the only place to discuss mods on (and I have endorsed more than jus a handful mods, get your facts straight)