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So based on your title, you must have some magic effect that causes the player to receive a spell. https://ck.uesp.net/wiki/AddSpell_-_Actor Add the abVerbose parameter to your script and set it to false.

In response to post #122811858. #122812626, #122815254, #122816751, #122816931 are all replies on the same post. Yeah for sure… This for people modding Bannerlord. It all good now. There you go little buddy.

Speaking from experience, it's simply not a simple change. Although the simplest method is Wrye Bash, I've never done it that way. Or just exploiting all the ways you can get followers in the vanilla game, I think it's up to 5 or 6 at a time if you use some exploits. But the latter may forcibly dismiss at some point and then it's over. You could also check out followers using their own follower system. So yeah, it's something you'd have to explore further. But actually configuring the relevant parts of the game to work properly with an "increased follower limit" takes a lot more work than it sounds like. First, there simply is no follower limit. The basic follower system is made for 1 follower and 1 animal follower only. This is based on the referencealiases which you would need to copy to get more storage for followers. The "follower limit" global variable should've been renamed to "a follower is following you" because it's only ever used to detect up to 1 humanoid follower at a time in the base-game. Is something following you, yes or no. Pets are never even detected like that, instead they are only ever replaced by the newer model that's taking over their referencealias that's used to apply the follower AI package. You also need to edit things like the Serana, hirelings, and blades quest, or how pet adoption even works, or they won't work anymore. That also includes dialogue scripts for all followers (including mods) since you'll also need a new set that passes the actor reference over to the multi-follower system. Because again, it's a system that only cares about 1 follower at a time. A problem you need to solve in your own creative way. And you'll need to consider compatibility for mods like RDO that are popular enough to warrant that, since it collides with your mod. And when a modder goes through all that trouble to edit a frickin follower limit... they may as well improve on things while they're at it. There are many great multi-follower mods out there already. I definitely recommend moving away from Bethesda's shallow systems, though. You shouldn't lose anything but the limitations inherent in their base-game designs. Or the mod wasn't made very well to begin with.

Maybe you could make a new spell and try it?

If you are not clicking ok to close out the property window then that happens, otherwise not sure.

The main thing would be creating a perk that does what you want and testing it on the player. Then to add and remove it with a script attached to the appropriate dialogue option for getting them to follow.

Oh that's right... I'm happy you found that, thanks for answering your own question better than me XD https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=AllowPCDialogue_-_Actor It says clearly that it overrides the race flag.

Summoning spell is definitely a lot quicker to get working, if you would prefer help with that then just ask, but you must accept that there's no dialogue with that method. To achieve summoning for an actual follower with dialogue like I'm describing you need a few things: you need a working custom follower, a basic hidden room/cell to store the follower in, a scripted spell for summoning, and a custom quest containing the follower framework. This might sound daunting but it's really not that bad to setup, it just takes some learning. To give you a general outline, start with adding your own basic follower to the game that uses the default framework, I linked a tutorial below - you must use a supported voice type, I linked a list for that as well. When that follower is working right, you can move on to creating a very basic interior cell to hold them - google that if needed. When you have an inaccessible cell with a floor, place the follower in it. You can duplicate any spell and magic effect combo based on the fx that you like, the important thing is to change the 'magic effect - effect archetype' to script and then add a script to the magic effect, which contains code to move the follower out of your hidden cell. Here's a simple script to get started: ScriptName SummonFollower extends ActiveMagicEffect Actor Property Follower Auto Event OnEffectStart(Actor akTarget, Actor akCaster) Follower.MoveTo(akCaster,0, 150.0 * Math.Cos(akCaster.GetAngleZ()), akCaster.GetHeight() + 3.0) EndEvent Once you add your follower in the properties window, this script will simply drop them in front of you when the magic effect begins. You can certainly improve on this script and effect in several ways. Setting up the quest for your own follower framework is required so it can follow you without being recruited into the default follower system. The follower dialogue for it also needs to be created in this custom quest. It can by copied from the original follower system in a couple of ways. If you get to this step I'll explain further. I'll mention that you can learn how to make a follower framework by analyzing the original follower system contained within the DialogueFollower quest. That's how I learned how to make my own frameworks. Follower tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlepT3rQ8LI Supported voice types: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/964801-modder-reference-for-follower-voices/ Magic effect window: https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=Magic_Effect

There's no alternative with a vanilla race in regular CK/Papyrus. If you were creating a specific creature and needed dialogue you can duplicate it. I think that's it.

I noticed that this type of dialogue is found on different quests relating to each rumor, which could become a mess for compatibility. But to preserve the original dialogue, you can edit the papyrus fragment found on the dialogue. You could also add a cost to the dialogue option text so it's known beforehand, and you can add a condition to the dialogue itself so it doesn't appear if the player lacks gold. If you don't then the game will take less than ten or zero and still work. You could use this in the fragment which avoids setting any properties for this action. You need to add this along with whatever is already found there or the quest alert won't work. akSpeaker.GetDialogueTarget().RemoveItem(Game.GetForm(0x0000000F), 10) Sources: https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=RemoveItem_-_ObjectReference https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=GetDialogueTarget_-_Actor https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=GetForm_-_Game

This is so cool, I was looking for this a week ago lol. Import works well enough, I didn't test a full round-trip yet. You posted this in the LE forum only.

So patching the QF_DB06_0001EA55 script would only conflict with changes to quest stage fragments then. That's not that bad or hard to patch for conflicts. But I like your idea better. I built my standalone frameworks for this very reason. So another question, due to the conditions, the ability you're describing, although applied already by an alias, can't apply its magic effect until the conditions are met? Does this use some internal loop then?

This is where my journey started many moons ago:

It seems like you want a regular companion/follower with dialogue but to use a spell to summon them to you, perhaps temporarily. And not a conjuration summon such as an atronach which doesn't have dialogue from what I've seen. If so, then you don't want a conjuration summoning spell at all. You need to copy a basic spell and then add your script to it.

I had no idea. Adding properties to dialogue fragments like that does indeed work, so it's interesting that's not the case with quest fragments. The magic effect would be worth the setup if this mod is going to be public so it always works as intended. But wouldn't a quest fragment only be incompatible with changes to that quest fragment?

If I understand correctly then I think this could help: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/4652030-properly-adding-items-to-vendor-containers/

Your idea is interesting. What's to stop you from hiring someone? I just wanted to say good job starting to code at all. Every step feels small but in the end it's those small steps that add up. Through struggling comes learning. I started 10 years ago, stay a while and listen. Joking. Learning to code can be a life long journey. If you are at all interested in writing applications or even game development, I recommend learning the basics of general programming first. I learned how to code without going to school and never needed to pay for online courses either. I'd be happy to continue that discussion. Getting back to the topic, the first thing I wonder about is financial security or legal rights. I'm not sure if it breaks some EULA. And would Nexus facilitate the practice? Or is it a freelance bidding arena with a race to the bottom. I think this idea shows the importance of networking with other developers so you can personally arrange something with someone. There's also this idea of building a team with different strengths. I'm not one for networking, so I think I would enjoy this idea if it could work.

That's awesome!

What about this script for xEdit? https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/25395?tab=description I automated many hours of repetitive tasks for my mod using AutoHotkey scripts.

Regarding the fragment, does this code compile in the fragment? Actor Property Actor1 Auto Actor Property Actor2 Auto Actor Property Actor3 Auto Actor Property Actor4 Auto Actor Property Actor5 Auto Actor1.GetActorBase().SetProtected(false) Actor2.GetActorBase().SetProtected(false) Actor3.GetActorBase().SetProtected(false) Actor4.GetActorBase().SetProtected(false) Actor5.GetActorBase().SetProtected(false) You should be able to fill properties with each actor using the property button below that window after it's compiled.

Oh that makes sense it would work then. Cell name is just a string. I never tried coords with coc but cow complains without them.

You will only learn how to write scripts by looking at them. By that logic you will be grabbing these 2 from me... First you would create your pocket world. Then add 2 x-markers to it. 1 x-marker will mark the "landing spot" for the player. The other will sit nearby. Then you need to make a spell and a magic effect for it in CK. Afterwards you can add a script to the magic effect and paste this in. Scriptname MyMod_TeleportPlayerHome extends ActiveMagicEffect ObjectReference Property xMarkPocket Auto ObjectReference Property xMarkRecall Auto Event OnEffectStart(Actor akTarget, Actor akCaster) xMarkRecall.MoveTo(akCaster) akCaster.MoveTo(xMarkPocket) EndEvent Save the script. Make sure your custom script name matches the Scriptname within the script. Once you have successfully compiled the script, exit the script and right-click it to fill out the properties window. Set xMarkPocket to your x-marker "landing spot" and xMarkRecall to the x-marker off to the side. Now you should be able to get to your pocket world. To get back you need to create the activator object and add it to your pocket world. Also add the following script to your activator, rename the script contents as needed. Scriptname MyMod_TeleportPlayerRecall extends ObjectReference ObjectReference Property xMarkPocket Auto ObjectReference Property xMarkRecall Auto Event OnActivate(ObjectReference akActionRef) akActionRef.MoveTo(xMarkStart) xMarkRecall.MoveTo(xMarkPocket) EndEvent Save, exit, and once again fill out the properties with the x-markers from your pocket world. Now when the player activates the object, they should be moved to their recall position and the recall x-marker will reset cleanly for uninstalls if needed. Edit: I forgot to share my sources. https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=OnEffectStart_-_ActiveMagicEffect https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=MoveTo_-_ObjectReference https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=OnActivate_-_ObjectReference https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=Magic_Effect https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=Activator

I don't think so. RegisterForAnimationEvent and OnAnimationEvent don't work on all animations, only those which were setup by Bethesda to contain the logic for animation events. There aren't many and a lot of them don't work for some reason: https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=Animation_Events What's worse is you can register for an event and compile that successfully in Papyrus but it won't work.

They can also be used in CK conditions.

Yes you can do both of these... The first could be done simply with a dialogue condition that checks either a global variable or a script's variable that would change through Papyrus after the quest is completed. The second idea can be done with a reference alias that has a follower ai package attached to it. When the actor fills that reference alias during your quest, the follower ai package will override their default ai packages - which can be overridden by scene ai packages because they trump reference alias ai packages.